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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:11 am    Post subject: aileron throwaileron throw Reply with quote

Sorry, but I have to chime in with John C. on this one. You should NEVER
have restricted control movement by design. While it is true that the
control stick box, rudder travel for that matter, is/are normally rather
confined, especially at higher airpspeeds, there ARE situations, and in
other than aerobatic flight, where full control movement may be
required. I encourage anyone considering restricted control movement, by
design, to give this latter point serious consideration.

Example, and on the lighter side, a wake turbulence encounter.... A
neighbor, the other day, reported substantial wake turbulence and
control recovery effort after being "thumped" by an F-15 whilst on final
to our airport. What TFR? What presidential visit in progress some
12-15nm away, hi? Intercept procedures and required response, huh?
Anyway, point is to always consider the unexpected, and in this case the
need for full control authority, always.

Link McGarity
#40622 elevators
RV6/N42GF/flying, non builder


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:52 am    Post subject: aileron throwaileron throw Reply with quote

I am not arguing with any of this, but I also remember that airbus accident
where the VS spar failed was also I believe due to wake turbulance and full
rudder deflection by the pilot. This is how I remember the report.

I think I would like to have the full range of throws, but one has to be
careful at high speeds and turbulent conditions.

Being an RCer, I have stalled high performance slope sailplanes at high
speed due to putting too much up elevator too fast. It is an amazing thing
to witness. The electronic radios have dual rates and things like that to
accomodate this stuff.

John G.
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From: Link McGarity <wv4i(at)bellsouth.net>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: aileron throwaileron throw
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 05:09:05 -0500



Sorry, but I have to chime in with John C. on this one. You should NEVER
have restricted control movement by design. While it is true that the
control stick box, rudder travel for that matter, is/are normally rather
confined, especially at higher airpspeeds, there ARE situations, and in
other than aerobatic flight, where full control movement may be required. I
encourage anyone considering restricted control movement, by design, to
give this latter point serious consideration.

Example, and on the lighter side, a wake turbulence encounter.... A
neighbor, the other day, reported substantial wake turbulence and control
recovery effort after being "thumped" by an F-15 whilst on final to our
airport. What TFR? What presidential visit in progress some 12-15nm away,
hi? Intercept procedures and required response, huh?
Anyway, point is to always consider the unexpected, and in this case the
need for full control authority, always.

Link McGarity
#40622 elevators
RV6/N42GF/flying, non builder



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: aileron throwaileron throw Reply with quote

The Airbus accident is a good example what I thought is true and what is
really true. Before that accident, I believed that if I was flying below
maneuvering speed that I did not have to worry about damaging my certified
airplane with full control movements.......what I know now (at least as far
as the rudder is concerned) is that the certification requirements are for
the rudder to be able to go from the neutral position to full left or full
right......not from full left to full right (or the other way around).

Either way, I will make sure that my stick does not strike the panel or has
any possibility of getting stuck underneath.

Rene' Felker
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