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Rotax 912 Fuel Pump Inlet/Outlet

 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Rotax 912 Fuel Pump Inlet/Outlet Reply with quote

Edited 11/11/2006 by T Walker

After reading this, it didn't make sense to me so I am going to try to clarify it.
"...The intake side of the mechanical fuel pump is a 5/16" nipple. The output side is 1/4". The fuel line supplied by Zenith is 1/4" for the entire system.

What have others used for the fuel line. 1/4 or 5/16? All the connectors into and out of the gascolator are 1/4.

I guess what I'm wondering about is why would a 5/16 line make a difference in a 1/4 system?...."


912'ers,

I am plumbing up my fuel lines and have run into a problem with the ZAC supplied fuel lines, connectors, etc. I thought someone who has been there/done that, would be a good solution (I also emailed Support(at)zenithair.com). The inlet side of the fuel pump is a 5/16 nipple and the outlet side is a 1/4 nipple. All the material I got in my kit is for a 1/4 plumbing scheme. I'm wondering what some of you did to your lines when you plumbed the fuel system.

Thanks,

Tommy Walker in Alabama
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:47 pm    Post subject: Rotax 912 Fuel Pump Inlet/Outlet Reply with quote

Tommy, the only thing I did to my lines to and from the pump was to cover them in firesleeve to prevent the fuel from boiling and causing vapour lock. It can get pretty hot under that cowl.


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On Nov 11, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Tommy Walker wrote:
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912'ers,
I am plumbing up my fuel lines and have run into a problem with the ZAC supplied fuel lines, connectors, etc.  I thought someone who has been there/done that, would be a good solution (I also emailed Support(at)zenithair.com (Support(at)zenithair.com)).  The inlet side of the fuel pump is a 5/16 nipple and the outlet side is a 1/4 nipple.  All the material I got in my kit is for a 1/4 plumbing scheme.  I'm wondering what some of you did to your lines when you plumbed the fuel system.
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Rotax 912 Fuel Pump Inlet/Outlet Reply with quote

Tommy,
I changed at the firewall from 1/4" to 5/16" using brass fittings. Then I went into the filter (Skyshops supplied a 5/16" filter) then I went to the inlet of the fuel pump. I also covered my lines in firesleeve. I'll send you a picture directly.

Bob Spudis
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Tommy, the only thing I did to my lines to and from the pump was to cover them in firesleeve to prevent the fuel from boiling and causing vapour lock. It can get pretty hot under that cowl.


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On Nov 11, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Tommy Walker wrote:
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912'ers,


I am plumbing up my fuel lines and have run into a problem with the ZAC supplied fuel lines, connectors, etc. I thought someone who has been there/done that, would be a good solution (I also emailed Support(at)zenithair.com (Support(at)zenithair.com)). The inlet side of the fuel pump is a 5/16 nipple and the outlet side is a 1/4 nipple. All the material I got in my kit is for a 1/4 plumbing scheme. I'm wondering what some of you did to your lines when you plumbed the fuel system.


Thanks,


Tommy Walker in Alabama
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Rotax 912 Fuel Pump Inlet/Outlet Reply with quote

Tommy,

I have the main and aux tanks for my 701. I have 1/4 inch hose from the tanks to the
gascolaters mounted behind the seat, one for inboard tanks and the other for outboard tanks.
Since the 912 pump input is 5/16 I figured I'd just make everything 5/16 from the outlet of these gascolaters.This makes 2 1/4 inch lines feeding 1 5/16 line right up to that fuel pump. I switched all brass fittings with 5/16 ones from McMaster Carr (catalog page 239). They sell them in 10 packs or 5 packs depending on if they are straight, right angle or 45 deg. They are relatively inexpensive, and you can get them in 1/4 or 1/8 npt depending on what you need. I come out of the gascolaters(1/8 npt) into the fuel selector(2 right angle 1/4 npt) just in front of the pilots seat. Output of selector is 45 deg 1/4 npt.Then into a 10 micron 6061-T6 aluminum
filter with 5/16 barbs built into it only 6 inches away from the selector. I run up the left side with 5/16 line purchased from Wicks Aircraft goodyear 30R7 to a Facet 10405 aux pump in
front of the rudder pedals mounted on the floor. The facet input is a right angle 5/16 1/4 npt fitting and the output is a strait one. Then into a fuel flow sensor for my GRT EIS with strait fittings. Then thru the firewall via an ACS Gascolater. The output of the gascolater has a 5/16 right angle 1/4 npt and the input has a strait fitting. Then on up and over to the 5/16 mechanical fuel pump input. I am using firesleeve on the 5/16 and 1/4 hose firewall forward. I did not get any 5/16 fittings from Zenith or any 5/16 hose.
This is probably more info than what you needed but I'm just putting this out there for others and if anyone has a problem with this let me know.

Brian

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Rotax 912 Fuel Pump Inlet/Outlet Reply with quote

Bob, Could you please also send me your firewall pics.
Thanks
Les Goldner
Berkeley, CA 94705
lgold(at)quantum-associates.com (lgold(at)quantum-associates.com)
(701 builder, starting on the fus next month)

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Tommy,
I changed at the firewall from 1/4" to 5/16" using brass fittings. Then I went into the filter (Skyshops supplied a 5/16" filter) then I went to the inlet of the fuel pump. I also covered my lines in firesleeve. I'll send you a picture directly.

Bob Spudis
N701ZX


In a message dated 11/11/2006 6:48:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, webmaster(at)upac.ca writes:
Quote:
Tommy, the only thing I did to my lines to and from the pump was to cover them in firesleeve to prevent the fuel from boiling and causing vapour lock. It can get pretty hot under that cowl.


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On Nov 11, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Tommy Walker wrote:
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912'ers,


I am plumbing up my fuel lines and have run into a problem with the ZAC supplied fuel lines, connectors, etc. I thought someone who has been there/done that, would be a good solution (I also emailed Support(at)zenithair.com (Support(at)zenithair.com)). The inlet side of the fuel pump is a 5/16 nipple and the outlet side is a 1/4 nipple. All the material I got in my kit is for a 1/4 plumbing scheme. I'm wondering what some of you did to your lines when you plumbed the fuel system.


Thanks,


Tommy Walker in Alabama
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Rotax 912 Fuel Pump Inlet/Outlet Reply with quote

All,

Thanks for the responses, on list and off. I amazed at how much everyone else knows and how little I know.

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