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owl40188(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

I am installing the Andair valve instead of the standard one Vans provides.  I moved the mounting bracket about 1 or 2 inches down and got a straight extension for the Andair valve and the 90 fittings that Andair sells.  So far it looks like it will work well .  I would like to replace the aluminum tube fuel line with the Aeroquip stuff.  It appears that Vans and Aircaft Spruce sell the Aeroquip 701 hose.  I am wondering if this is the proper hose to use.  I know Tim used the performance racing hoses also with a steel braid and it appears to be about half the price of the 701 stuff.  The racing angled fittings appear to be a lot less expensive also.  Any thoughts on this?

  

 thanks

  

 Niko



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

If you  look at the specifications, the Aeroquip braided hose that Summit Racing  sells, is exactly the same as the hose Van's sells, except about half the  price. (www.summitracing.com)  I  bought my hose fittings from Aircraft Spruce, because they are about the same  price, and selected for aircraft.  Aircarft Spruce's price is about the  same as Van's for the hose.  I am going to use the racing hose for the  brake lines also...probably overkill; however, I don't want any future problems  with the plastic hose.

  

 I am  also using an Adnair fuel valve, and the fuel hose is the braided Aeroquip  racing hose, and I am using one continuous piece from the 90 deg fitting on the  fuel valve to the fuel tank.  I tried to use 90 deg aeroquip fittings off  the fuel valve, and discovered that they are too wide.

  

 Steve Mills

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 Naperville, Illinois 

 finishing fuselage

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owl40188(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

Thanks for the info Steve.

 Are you using the straight fittings at both ends of the hose?  Do you have the Andair 90 deg fitting on the valve?

  

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 Niko

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

Niko:

  

 I am  using the banjo fitting from Andair, with 816-6D fittings from Aircraft  Spruce.

  

 Steve Mills

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

Niko, I had teflon lined hoses made for me with Earls Racing components. I put some red heat shrink tubing put over them for a little extra protection. If I remember correctly they are 37 1/2"

I decided not to use them and ended up using the aluminum tubing. If you are interested in them, I can send you some pictures. They might suit your application really well. Feel free to contact me off the list.



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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

You can buy Aeroquip (and other brands) of fittings from race supply

too.  I would (and apparently have) bet my life on the quality

of some of them, like Aeroquip.  In fact, other than the part number,

I would bet the Aeroquip fittings used on Van's hoses are the same

exact part you buy at race supply places.  (I did use some other

brands of fittings and they're very nice too)   The best part is

that the race supply shops have a better selection, even if the price

isn't always tons lower.  Yeah, we may be fanatical about safety

of our hoses, which is great....but remember that these high

performance racing buffs are just as fanatic about their hoses,

and their rides.  I'd definitely look at the fittings as you get them

and if you have any doubts about their quality then do the right

thing and exchange them for another brand, but if you stick with

Aeroquip, you can't go too wrong.  I think I have some XRP or something

like that too.  Side by side, they look identical, even down to the

welding/brazing qualities.  Your best bet if you can do it is to

visit a local racing supply shop where you can look at them firsthand.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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millstees(at)ameritech.net wrote:

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		   If you look at the specifications, the Aeroquip braided hose that Summit 

 Racing sells, is exactly the same as the hose Van's sells, except about 

 half the price. (www.summitracing.com <http://www.summitracing.com>)  I 

 bought my hose fittings from Aircraft Spruce, because they are about the 

 same price, and selected for aircraft.  Aircarft Spruce's price is about 

 the same as Van's for the hose.  I am going to use the racing hose for 

 the brake lines also...probably overkill; however, I don't want any 

 future problems with the plastic hose.

  

 I am also using an Adnair fuel valve, and the fuel hose is the braided 

 Aeroquip racing hose, and I am using one continuous piece from the 90 

 deg fitting on the fuel valve to the fuel tank.  I tried to use 90 deg 

 aeroquip fittings off the fuel valve, and discovered that they are too wide.

  

 Steve Mills

 RV-10 40486 Slow-build

 Naperville, Illinois

 finishing fuselage

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

Question Andrew.....did you use the conductive teflon hose?

I'm under the understanding that for fuel you would want

the conductive versions of the hose for obvious reasons.  I just

wanted to see if you found this stuff easy to obtain.  Had I been

able to get conductive teflon hoses locally, made to length,

I would have done that.  As it was, the easiest way to

do it yourself without knowing the total overall length exactly,

was to buy rubber and cut and fit the ends.   I seem to remember

the hoses being either 39 or 41" long myself, but it's getting

fuzzy.



Also, for those thinking of hoses, I don't know if people saw

my braided hoses on my tire and break write-up, but I got

braided teflon so I don't have to worry about fatigue cracks on

the hose around the axle.  Ed Hayden took it one step further and

went with braided all the way from fuselage to brake, which

is what I really wanted to do.  I didn't know the measurement

at the time.  Some day though, I'll swap mine out when I'm

doing some major maintenance.  I think his are 44" end to end

from fuselage bulkhead fitting to the brake.  Slick setup,

and his will probably last forever, being teflon.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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AndrewTR30 wrote:

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 Niko, I had teflon lined hoses made for me with Earls Racing

 components. I put some red heat shrink tubing put over them for a

 little extra protection. If I remember correctly they are 37 1/2" I

 decided not to use them and ended up using the aluminum tubing. If

 you are interested in them, I can send you some pictures. They might

 suit your application really well. Feel free to contact me off the

 list.

 

 Andrewtr30 (at) yahoo (dot) com

 

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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Aeroquip Fuel Hoses / Andair Valve

Tim,

Yes my hoses are carbon lined for static dissipation. they are -6 size. Here's a link:

http://www.holley.com/620002ERL.asp



The fittings are Earls Swivel-seal.

http://www.holley.com/types/Swivel-Seal.asp



I could not find a good source locally, So I ordered them from:

http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/



My Andair valve is mounted high in the tunnel, actually above the standard Vans location and didn't like the bend coming throught the tunnel, so that's why I switched back to the aluminum.

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