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 Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: Units puzzle! |
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Please tell us Carlos:
Would the rest of the world be happier if we just caved in to radical Islam
and all wore burkas. Which Islam would that be, Shiite....we'd get suicide
bombed by the radical Kurds, Sunni....we'd get suicide bombed by the radical
Shiite's. Which would you prefer? Or would you like us to invite them all
in to the USA and treat them like second class citizens so that they could
work to pay for our retirement and our 6 week holiday on the Riviera like
the French, British and Germans have done? This is not a personal attack on
you Carlos, but I do get sick and tired of the gutless Europeans who want to
appease every tin-pot dictator just so their Holidays to the Riviera are not
interrupted and their lives aren't inconvenienced! Especially when the USA
pays for most of the charity around the world, protects a good bit of the
world with it's own military at a GREAT EXPENSE to its taxpayers, covers
over half of the UN budget only to have most of the members vote against it
and have mud thrown in its face when terrorist countries like Syria and Iran
get voted in as members of the human rights commission, what a joke.
What worries me the most though Carlos (and Gilles) is the potential for all
those Islamic second class citizens in the French ghettos to take over the
French government and its cold war era NUCLEAR WEAPONS and use them on the
USA. Given the French affinity for appeasement it will likely be without
firing a shot. From what I have heard there will be lots of French folks
happy about that, they shouldn't get too happy though because the USA would
have to retaliate and given our Yankee tendencies it's doubtful there'd be
much left of Napolean's old stomping grounds. Sorry to pick on your country
Gilles but your fellow Frenchmen just haven't given me any reason whatsoever
to think that they have any sense of justice left in their heads.
Please, you folks are a lot closer to radical Islam than we in the USA are,
you've experienced the bombing, rioting and other acts of terrorism first
hand and some even more so than we in the USA. How can you possibly come to
the conclusion that, if you just TALK to these people and be nice to them
they will stop. HOW CAN ANY REASONBABLE THINKING PERSON POSSIBLY BELIEVE
THAT APPEASMENT IS THE ANSWER? HOW? Explain it to me, I'm all ears! The
main stream US news media and leftist press around the world have everyone
believing that "cowboy" Bush just woke up one day and decided to attack
Iraq. I beg to differ, Bill Clinton went ALL OVER THE WORLD for 8 years as
president, made "nice" with everyone, sang Kumbaiya and partied with them
and what did the USA get? September 11, 2001 that's what we got! So don't
go giving me this garbage about appeasement works, we tried that and now
North Korea and Iran will have Nuclear weapons. And, give them to the rest
of the terrorists around the world and, a bunch more "civilized people" will
have to die before the Europeans decide that they can give up a week or two
on the Riviera and be inconvenienced for a short time in order to stop these
kooks.
Please gentleman, I'm just waiting with baited breath to hear the great
solution you have to this problem, I'm waiting! I make no apologies for my
statements, I have a real passion about this and the truth is, if more
people don't wake up there won't be any more holidays on the Riviera or
worries about life being inconvenienced because you can't be inconvenienced
when you're DEAD (or persecuted under radical Islam, or did we already
forget what Saddam did to his own people not so long ago). Personally, it's
fine with me if the rest of the world does not want to be bothered by
terrorists killing people in their own countries, unfortunately it spills
over into my country and I'm not going to live with that if I can possibly
stop it! Lock and load!
Dean "Yankee" Psiropoulos
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Time: 04:37:48 AM PST US
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Re: Units puzzle
..... the text you wrote is an excellent example of expression of a typical
"Yankee-Uncle Sam" position which makes the USA to be hated by the rest of
the world.
Carlos
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:34 am Post subject: Units puzzle! |
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Preach it, brother!
Best Regards,
Steve
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On Nov 19, 2006, at 9:28 PM, DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote:
| Quote: | Lock and load!
Dean "Yankee" Psiropoulos
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Time: 04:37:48 AM PST US
From: "Carlos Trigo" <trigo(at)mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Re: Units puzzle
...... the text you wrote is an excellent example of expression of
a typical
"Yankee-Uncle Sam" position which makes the USA to be hated by the
rest of
the world.
Carlos
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: Units puzzle! |
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DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote:
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Please tell us Carlos:
Would the rest of the world be happier if we just caved in to radical Islam
and all wore burkas. Which Islam would that be, Shiite....we'd get suicide
bombed by the radical Kurds, Sunni....we'd get suicide bombed by the radical
Shiite's. Which would you prefer? Or would you like us to invite them all
in to the USA and treat them like second class citizens so that they could
work to pay for our retirement and our 6 week holiday on the Riviera like
the French, British and Germans have done? This is not a personal attack on
you Carlos, but I do get sick and tired of the gutless Europeans who want to
appease every tin-pot dictator just so their Holidays to the Riviera are not
interrupted and their lives aren't inconvenienced! Especially when the USA
pays for most of the charity around the world, protects a good bit of the
world with it's own military at a GREAT EXPENSE to its taxpayers, covers
over half of the UN budget only to have most of the members vote against it
and have mud thrown in its face when terrorist countries like Syria and Iran
get voted in as members of the human rights commission, what a joke.
What worries me the most though Carlos (and Gilles) is the potential for all
those Islamic second class citizens in the French ghettos to take over the
French government and its cold war era NUCLEAR WEAPONS and use them on the
USA. Given the French affinity for appeasement it will likely be without
firing a shot. From what I have heard there will be lots of French folks
happy about that, they shouldn't get too happy though because the USA would
have to retaliate and given our Yankee tendencies it's doubtful there'd be
much left of Napolean's old stomping grounds. Sorry to pick on your country
Gilles but your fellow Frenchmen just haven't given me any reason whatsoever
to think that they have any sense of justice left in their heads.
Please, you folks are a lot closer to radical Islam than we in the USA are,
you've experienced the bombing, rioting and other acts of terrorism first
hand and some even more so than we in the USA. How can you possibly come to
the conclusion that, if you just TALK to these people and be nice to them
they will stop. HOW CAN ANY REASONBABLE THINKING PERSON POSSIBLY BELIEVE
THAT APPEASMENT IS THE ANSWER? HOW? Explain it to me, I'm all ears! The
main stream US news media and leftist press around the world have everyone
believing that "cowboy" Bush just woke up one day and decided to attack
Iraq. I beg to differ, Bill Clinton went ALL OVER THE WORLD for 8 years as
president, made "nice" with everyone, sang Kumbaiya and partied with them
and what did the USA get? September 11, 2001 that's what we got! So don't
go giving me this garbage about appeasement works, we tried that and now
North Korea and Iran will have Nuclear weapons. And, give them to the rest
of the terrorists around the world and, a bunch more "civilized people" will
have to die before the Europeans decide that they can give up a week or two
on the Riviera and be inconvenienced for a short time in order to stop these
kooks.
Please gentleman, I'm just waiting with baited breath to hear the great
solution you have to this problem, I'm waiting! I make no apologies for my
statements, I have a real passion about this and the truth is, if more
people don't wake up there won't be any more holidays on the Riviera or
worries about life being inconvenienced because you can't be inconvenienced
when you're DEAD (or persecuted under radical Islam, or did we already
forget what Saddam did to his own people not so long ago). Personally, it's
fine with me if the rest of the world does not want to be bothered by
terrorists killing people in their own countries, unfortunately it spills
over into my country and I'm not going to live with that if I can possibly
stop it! Lock and load!
Dean "Yankee" Psiropoulos
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non-citizen could get them treated here like Sadaam used to treat his
dissidents in Iraq, perhaps you will permit me, a born once (& again) US
citizen, to respond.
It's really interesting how different conclusions can be, depending on
your perspective when viewing a problem. How thrilled do you think
Americans would be if, say, the Germans decided to secure our border
with Mexico for us & moved a hundred thousand or so German troops into
our border states? We might think we are doing the world a favor by
protecting it with troops stationed in dozens of countries, but it
doesn't mean that the 'protected' citizens of those countries
necessarily feel the same way.
I'd suggest that you educate yourself with a little history. Start with
learning how the three groups in Iraq got artificially spliced into one
country. Then look at who gave the Evil Sadaam chemical weapons to start
with, when they were propping him up against the Iranians. Then back up
& look at who put the Shah of Iran (just in case you're totally ignorant
of history: he was a bad guy easily on par with Sadaam) in power in the
early 1950's. Ask yourself if that action might have something to do
with the Iranian people hating us enough to attack our Embassy & take
American hostages. Next, look up who was the leader of the 'insurgency'
(currently known everywhere else as terrorism) against the Soviets in
Afghanistan, his nationality (it ain't Afghan), & who gave him his
weapons & taught him all his terrorist techniques. Now, look up who is
*actually* responsible for 911. Has his name shown up before in this
exercise? Same guy, maybe? What was his nationality? He wasn't from
Iraq, was he? Now look up which Royal Family has been proven to be
funneling money to this the guy who is *actually* responsible for 911.
(You remember the one; the guy that Jr. said he didn't think about much,
any more.) Were they from the same country as our Afghan/Soviet/American
terrorist? You will probably have to move completely outside US news
sources to find the next item. What reason did the terrorist himself
give for planning & executing 911? Hint: It wasn't Bill Clinton singing
Kumbaiya. Don'tcha think it would be good to at least understand your
enemy? Lots of very smart military people do. Unfortunately, not many
chickenhawk neocons felt that way when they got us into the current mess.
Let's move to recent history. Have you noticed how many 'retired' CIA
operatives have written books detailing how they repeatedly told the
Neocons *before the invasion* that there was virtually no evidence of
WMD or chem/bio in Iraq? That there was virtually no evidence of any
contact at all between the hedonist Sadaam & the fundamentalist Muslim
terrorist that wouldn't even be able to tolerate being in the same
country with someone like Sadaam? (Watching something other than the
Fascist News Network will probably be required for this exercise.)
Remember, the CIA is like the Mafia on steroids: you never really leave.
Don'tcha think it's a pretty safe bet that what all these 'retired'
agents are writing are probably pretty close to the CIA's attitude about
this stuff? Have you noticed how many recently retired American Generals
have gone on record criticizing our Administration's actions in invading
another country based on lies? Do you really think that all those guys
are bleeding heart liberals?
For extra credit, go to the CIA's web site, look up & list the natural
resources of Vietnam.
I could go on (remember the 'missile gap', from the '60's?), but I hope
that by now you're able to detect a bit of a pattern.
Before we deal with some foreigner's plan for the terrorists, let's
deal with yours. Do you live far enough south to be familiar with fire
ants? Ever tried to intimidate a mound of 'em by reaching into the mound
with your hand & crushing a few to death? Did the rest cut & run or
become pacifists & submit because you were stronger? To paraphrase our
illustrious president on lessons learned in Vietnam, if you continue
with your technique, do you believe you will win over the fire ants
unless you quit? Do you honestly believe that your technique is
weakening the fire ants?
When you've completed your assignments, get back to me & we'll talk. 
Charlie
(just a little old southern boy who believes that conservative beats
neo-conservative any day)
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