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Mike Schnabel
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Good morning gang,
Its been a while since i could send a message via this Yahoo email server... screwy software! Think i have it fixed, so heres a test message.
After several long months waiting for the concrete work to be done, then weeks cleaning and prepping the building components (after over 9 years in storage), things are finally taking shape!
With the weather being very favorable the next few days, hope to complete the major part of construction in that time. That is as long as my crew can hang in that long! (Family, free labor, cant complain!)
I hope everyone has an enjoyable, happy and safe holiday weekend!
Mike S
Manchester TN
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Steve Boetto
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:59 am Post subject: Hangar update |
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Nice work Mike,
You will be very happy with your building. If you have not Grouted in the bottom of your walls yet, You might want to paint that area with something to prevent moisture from causing the grout to eat the steel. I used regular silver type roof coating. It is far easier to do this BEFORE you erect but I see you have already started. It is still easy to do.
Steve
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: Hangar update |
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Mike,
Like the looks of your building. Please excuse this silly question but looking at your pad it appears you have a U channel at the edge in which the hangar side wall rest. Question is the channel temporary during erection or will it stay there.
The reason I ask will not rain travel down the wall and fill it up channel - being at the same level as floor inside will not water come inside. A difference in height between the wall and inside floor is a good design to minimize that occurring, but with the outside edge it forms a channel with both being the same height might cause you water problems. I see where the channel would help during erection. If the outside perimeter of the channel were slightly lower than the level of the floor, it might prevent water migrating inside but I would be concerned about a rust problem over time with your wall setting in a trough of water and dirt.
jerb
At 06:20 AM 11/22/2006, you wrote:
[quote]Good morning gang,
Its been a while since i could send a message via this Yahoo email server... screwy software! Think i have it fixed, so heres a test message.
After several long months waiting for the concrete work to be done, then weeks cleaning and prepping the building components (after over 9 years in storage), things are finally taking shape!
With the weather being very favorable the next few days, hope to complete the major part of construction in that time. That is as long as my crew can hang in that long! (Family, free labor, cant complain!)
I hope everyone has an enjoyable, happy and safe holiday weekend!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
do not archive
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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: Hangar update |
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Mike, By the sounds of it you are erecting an arch building. If so, I'd sure like to hear of problems or tips to proper assembly. I have the dirt work done, pallets of formed steel, and buckets of bolts. Is it just me, or is getting a concrete guy as difficult in TN as it is in KS? And if my assumptions about your building are wrong, then like Emily Littela said, "never mind".
Rick
On 11/22/06, jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net (ulflyer(at)verizon.net)> wrote:[quote] Mike,
Like the looks of your building. Please excuse this silly question but looking at your pad it appears you have a U channel at the edge in which the hangar side wall rest. Question is the channel temporary during erection or will it stay there.
The reason I ask will not rain travel down the wall and fill it up channel - being at the same level as floor inside will not water come inside. A difference in height between the wall and inside floor is a good design to minimize that occurring, but with the outside edge it forms a channel with both being the same height might cause you water problems. I see where the channel would help during erection. If the outside perimeter of the channel were slightly lower than the level of the floor, it might prevent water migrating inside but I would be concerned about a rust problem over time with your wall setting in a trough of water and dirt.
jerb
At 06:20 AM 11/22/2006, you wrote:
| Quote: | Good morning gang,
Its been a while since i could send a message via this Yahoo email server... screwy software! Think i have it fixed, so heres a test message.
After several long months waiting for the concrete work to be done, then weeks cleaning and prepping the building components (after over 9 years in storage), things are finally taking shape!
With the weather being very favorable the next few days, hope to complete the major part of construction in that time. That is as long as my crew can hang in that long! (Family, free labor, cant complain!)
I hope everyone has an enjoyable, happy and safe holiday weekend!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
do not archive
Click now to apply
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Steve Boetto
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: Hangar update |
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Rick,
Unlike Mike's building, I used a formed steel U channel. It simplifies the concrete work.
And the channel get filled with a Portland/sand grout. This last step really stiffens the building.
Steve [quote][b]
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jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: Hangar update |
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I opted for the foundation weldments so I only have to do more bolts. After 7600, what's a few more? I can't wait to have real room again. Anybody doing radiant floor heat?
Rick
On 11/22/06, N27SB(at)aol.com (N27SB(at)aol.com) <N27SB(at)aol.com (N27SB(at)aol.com)> wrote:[quote] Rick,
Unlike Mike's building, I used a formed steel U channel. It simplifies the concrete work.
And the channel get filled with a Portland/sand grout. This last step really stiffens the building.
Steve
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Mike Schnabel
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: Hangar update |
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Jerb,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Thanks for the comments on the shop construction. You are very observant, yes, the building sidewalls are nested in a “trough” groove along the foundation. Your concerns about water damage is a legitimate one, were the walls to be left standing in the open trough. But once the building is completed, squared, level and bolts tightened these troughs will be filled in with a concrete “grout”. Attached is a picture of my brother in laws building we erected over 10 years ago showing the grouted in wall. The grout fills in the trough area both inside and outside the wall.
This is one of this buildings strong points, as after the grouting process the building has been rated to withstand 125 MPH winds. Its overall design is an extremely strong method of construction and very easy to assemble without the need for a professional crew (me, my dad, sisters, nieces and nephews are putting this up ourselves!). The sheet metal skin acts as the structure so there are no beams, poles or other structure needed. After building my bro in laws, I was quick to buy one for myself… but it took me 10 years to find the right place to set it up! Glad its finally going up!
If anyone has any question about its construction, please feel free to ask. Will post a few more pics as work progresses.
Sure hope all are having a great holiday weekend!
Mike S
Manchester TN
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jerb <ulflyer(at)verizon.net> wrote:
[quote]Mike,
Like the looks of your building. Please excuse this silly question but looking at your pad it appears you have a U channel at the edge in which the hangar side wall rest. Question is the channel temporary during erection or will it stay there.
The reason I ask will not rain travel down the wall and fill it up channel - being at the same level as floor inside will not water come inside. A difference in height between the wall and inside floor is a good design to minimize that occurring, but with the outside edge it forms a channel with both being the same height might cause you water problems. I see where the channel would help during erection. If the outside perimeter of the channel were slightly lower than the level of the floor, it might prevent water migrating inside but I would be concerned about a rust problem over time with your wall setting in a trough of water and dirt.
jerb
At 06:20 AM 11/22/2006, you wrote:
[quote]Good morning gang,
Its been a while since i could send a message via this Yahoo email server... screwy software! Think i have it fixed, so heres a test message.
After several long months waiting for the concrete work to be done, then weeks cleaning and prepping
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