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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: Stupid questions

Okay, I've been away from power planes too long.



What is a marker beacon antenna for?  Don't say a marker beacon. Is it for 

IFR equipment.



Do strobes have to be located on the wing tips.? I thought that when I used 

to fly power they were also found on the belly.  Am I imagining this.



If on the belly is okay, why not just put in one light rather than two on 

the wing tips.



Thanks,,



John Gonzalez, Do Not Archive my ignorance in this matter. Finished Drilling 

teeth for the day.

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MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject: Stupid questions

The marker beacon is IFR equipment that has going out of common use for 

some time.  The beacons themselves are being decommissioned and GPS 

usage has replaced much of their use in the cockpit.  I think they are 

only required on Cat II and III approaches (you and I won't be doing any 

of those in the '10)  However, any audio panel you install will probably 

have marker beacon lights (they are pretty).  It just occurred to me 

that I have no idea where the receiver is for the marker beacon.



Have you been flying gliders?  I know how that feels.  You won't be 

interested in marker beacons even if you fly IFR.  You are new school by 

definition - only old school guys will insist on them.



So, I wonder whether I'll install a marker beacon attenna?  Don't know.

do not archive

Bill " I"m taking a break tonight" Watson



John Gonzalez wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Okay, I've been away from power planes too long.



 What is a marker beacon antenna for?  Don't say a marker beacon. Is it 

 for IFR equipment.



 Do strobes have to be located on the wing tips.? I thought that when I 

 used to fly power they were also found on the belly.  Am I imagining 

 this.



 If on the belly is okay, why not just put in one light rather than two 

 on the wing tips.



 Thanks,,



 John Gonzalez, Do Not Archive my ignorance in this matter. Finished 

 Drilling teeth for the day.

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject: Stupid questions

No such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people.  Wait, don't

think that came out right.



  Anyway, the Marker Beacons (also known as Fan Markers or Fan Beacons

for the radiation pattern they emit) are used to identify approach fixes

under IFR flight.  Usually Outer, Middle, and Inner.  The old saying

goes that some have attached the coat hanger to the back of the MB

receiver and picked them up.  I opted for a slightly better arrangement

and you can see it below.  Doesn't have to be anything pretty  as they

are fairly high power, directional, and you fly fairly close to them.



<http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project 2&c

ategory=624&log=6520&row=4>



Michael Sausen

-10 #352 Fuselage



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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: Stupid questions

 	  Quote: 	
		   Okay, I've been away from power planes too long.



 What is a marker beacon antenna for?  Don't say a marker beacon. Is it for 

 IFR equipment.

I just looked in ACS ..no three light marker beacons. Next I'll be looking 
	


up GCA.  OLD marker beacons were on IFR final approach to the end of the 

runway & lit up as you passed over their cone signal. Remember: "On center 

line, on glide slope".....   OR  Did I just date myself....again  8*)

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 Do strobes have to be located on the wing tips.? I thought that when I 

 used to fly power they were also found on the belly.  Am I imagining this.

I had a strobe on my first 172 mounted on the belly 'cause it was so LARGE & 
	


HEAVY to mount anyplace else. Modern ones are small & light, suitable for 

wing tips.



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		   If on the belly is okay, why not just put in one light rather than two on 

 the wing tips.

With them on the wing tips you have better total sky coverage AND they 
	


"wink" (back & forth, left/right) if set up to alternate. They cause others 

to "see" motion in the sky, in daylight too.

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		   John Gonzalez, Do Not Archive my ignorance in this matter. Finished 

 Drilling teeth for the day.



PS: The only ignorant question is the one NOT ASK.  KABONG  Do Not Archive.

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orchidman

Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Posts: 277
Location: Oklahoma City - KRCE

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Stupid questions

 	  jhstarn(at)verizon.net wrote: 	
		  

up GCA.  OLD marker beacons were on IFR final approach to the end of the 

runway & lit up as you passed over their cone signal. Remember: "On center 

line, on glide slope".....   OR  Did I just date myself....again  8*)

	


Did I hear you say PAR?

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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: Stupid questions

A marker beacon antenna can be nothing more than a 40" strip of copper wire glassed into the wingtip. 14 ga solid romex stripped will do a good job. So will stripped off coax wire.



Rick S.

40185

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bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:17 pm Post subject: Stupid questions

Hey there has been a time or ten when a PAR has saved my bacon.  Something

about iced up, dead VOR and fog at PDX flying night mail.   UGLY, UGLY,

UGLY.



Bob K

Moving furniture, or honey do. LOL



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Vern(at)teclabsinc.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:23 am Post subject: Stupid questions

Hi John,



The link below is a pdf file outlining the anti collision lighting

requirements and distribution pattern.

http://www.creativair.com/source/_inst/requirements.pdf



Vern (40324 fuselage)

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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: Stupid questions

Thanks, that's a great link.



John G.

[quote]From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern(at)teclabsinc.com>

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Subject: RE: Stupid questions

Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:21:54 -0800






Hi John,



The link below is a pdf file outlining the anti collision lighting

requirements and distribution pattern.

http://www.creativair.com/source/_inst/requirements.pdf



Vern (40324 fuselage)

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