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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

I am in the process of adding an access panel to the forward top skin, to be able to access the back side of the instrument panel after construction is complete.  This is for a 601XL.  I have a drawing in pdf format showing how I am doing this.  If you would like to see the drawing, please contact me directly.



Jay in Dallas

Do not archive

craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Why not post the file to the file archive section of this list?



-- Craig

amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Jay,

please shoot me an email of the panel, i'd love a copy.



Jvega(at)carterusa.com



Juan Vega, Jr.

Senior Vice President, Brokerage Services

CARTER ONCOR International

Cell: 813-784-7312



Juan Vega



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Terry Phillips

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 346
Location: Corvallis, MT

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Jay



I would like a copy of the .pdf file. Thank you.



Terry

At 01:16 PM 12/4/2006 -0500, you wrote:

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I am in the process of adding an access panel to the forward top skin, to 

be able to access the back side of the instrument panel after construction 

is complete.  This is for a 601XL.  I have a drawing in pdf format showing 

how I am doing this.  If you would like to see the drawing, please contact 

me directly.



Jay in Dallas

Do not archive


	


Terry Phillips

ttp44(at)rkymtn.net

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Terry Phillips
Corvallis, MT
ttp44<at>rkymtn.net
Zenith 601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail feathers done; working on the wings.

Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:15 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Jaun, Let me know what you think. - Jay

Juan Vega <amyvega2005(at)earthlink.net> wrote:



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Jay,

please shoot me an email of the panel, i'd love a copy.



Jvega(at)carterusa.com



Juan Vega, Jr.

Senior Vice President, Brokerage Services

CARTER ONCOR International

Cell: 813-784-7312



Juan Vega



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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Terry, Let me know what you think, - Jay

Terry Phillips <ttp44(at)rkymtn.net> wrote:



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Jay



I would like a copy of the .pdf file. Thank you.



Terry

At 01:16 PM 12/4/2006 -0500, you wrote:

>

>

>I am in the process of adding an access panel to the forward top skin, to 

>be able to access the back side of the instrument panel after construction 

>is complete.  This is for a 601XL.  I have a drawing in pdf format showing 

>how I am doing this.  If you would like to see the drawing, please contact 

>me directly.

>

>Jay in Dallas

>Do not archive



Terry Phillips

ttp44(at)rkymtn.net

Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Craig,  Done.  According to Dralle, it might not be available for a while. If you want to see it earlier, just let me know.



Jay



"Craig Payne" <craig(at)craigandjean.com> wrote:



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Why not post the file to the file archive section of this list?



-- Craig

jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: Forward Skin Access

That's because your latest post/question (see below) has now been archived 

because you didn't have Do Not Archive in your message. This message, mine, 

will not be in the archives because I imbedded the required three little 

words within this post. AND this post of mine does not need repeated ever 

again.....I

Hope.      KABONG



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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Jay,



that looks pertty cool.  I like it.  I was thinking on putting the entire piece on nutplates so the whole thing would come off.  Am I missing something that would not make that possible?  I think yours maybe better idea becasue you don't have to remove the canopy.  I am also thinking of cutting and trimming the "head chopping" sun leadge on the panel, and replacing it with a leather one like on Cessnas.  I found a place that can custom make one for cheap price.  ANy thoughts?



Juan



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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

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		  > That's because your latest post/question ...


	


What does "Do Not Archive" have to do with him posting his PDF to the *file*

(not message) archives?



Also - who died and made you Darth Vader?



-- Craig

craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

A number of builders have made almost all of the forward skin removable. For

one example take a look at the pictures on Larry's site under "Canopy":

www.macsmachine.com



-- Craig

craig(at)craigandjean.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

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		  > I am also thinking of cutting and trimming the "head chopping" sun leadge

on the panel...
	




I'm planning on replacing the whole control panel lip with silicon baffle

material. The front skin will stop flush with the control panel.



-- Craig

dredmoody(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

To make the aft edge of the forward skin more user friendly you can buy an appropriate length of clear poly tubing at a local hardware store, split it lengthwise, inject it with clear silicon sealer and slip it onto the edge. Cheap, lightweight, easy, and stays put once set.



Ed



---- Juan Vega <amyvega2005(at)earthlink.net> wrote: 

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 Jay,

 

 that looks pertty cool.  I like it.  I was thinking on putting the entire piece on nutplates so the whole thing would come off.  Am I missing something that would not make that possible?  I think yours maybe better idea becasue you don't have to remove the canopy.  I am also thinking of cutting and trimming the "head chopping" sun leadge on the panel, and replacing it with a leather one like on Cessnas.  I found a place that can custom make one for cheap price.  ANy thoughts?

 

 Juan

ccwacker(at)HOTMAIL.COM
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

I have made mine removabale with nut plates. I modified the top plate so 

that the part that covers the canopy hinge stays with the fuselage taht way 

the canopy does not need to be removed.



Chuck Wacker

N601CW Quick Build

[quote]From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005(at)earthlink.net>

Reply-To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Forward Skin Access

Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:03:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00)




Jay,



that looks pertty cool.  I like it.  I was thinking on putting the entire 

piece on nutplates so the whole thing would come off.  Am I missing 

something that would not make that possible?  I think yours maybe better 

idea becasue you don't have to remove the canopy.  I am also thinking of 

cutting and trimming the "head chopping" sun leadge on the panel, and 

replacing it with a leather one like on Cessnas.  I found a place that can 

custom make one for cheap price.  ANy thoughts?



Juan



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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

chuck,

got any pics to share?



Juanm



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larry(at)macsmachine.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Juan,

You needn't use nut plates for such a panel.  J-nuts that work with 6-32 

screws can be used with considerable confidence.  They are much cheaper 

and don't let go.  I've got them on my removable forward top skin and 

I've had the top off probably a dozen times in two years and 85 hours of 

flying my 601.  On the leading edge overhanging the panel, I bent a 

piece of 1/2-inch aluminum tube and used a Dremel cutter to cut a slit 

on the edge and used 4 bent tabs to secure it with the same screws that 

hold the forward top skin.

It's a much easier job, as you use almost 90 screws, but very secure and 

the screws blend into the rivet heads.



http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/uclips.gif

http://www.macsmachine.com/images/cowling/full/firstcowlfitting.gif

http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezclosefrtrt.gif



Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com



Juan Vega wrote:

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 Jay,



 that looks pertty cool.  I like it.  I was thinking on putting the entire piece on nutplates so the whole thing would come off.  Am I missing something that would not make that possible?  I think yours maybe better idea becasue you don't have to remove the canopy.  I am also thinking of cutting and trimming the "head chopping" sun leadge on the panel, and replacing it with a leather one like on Cessnas.  I found a place that can custom make one for cheap price.  ANy thoughts?



 Juan

agbeyer(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

Hi Guys,

  

 Here are some pics of my inspection  covers.  I used floating nut plates.

  

 Al from Oshkosh

 601 HDS

 



 

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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

great website by the way, you need to send me the plans for that kick ass recumbant Bike!

Do you have close up pics of the portion of the turtle deck you riveted, the very end pieces adjacent to the canopy screw.  I like your idea.  



Juan

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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

that is the cleanest job I have seen.  Obviously you have built before.  HOw did you get such smooth cuts on the frame in the first picture?



I believe that is the frame for the cover?



Juan



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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: Forward Skin Access

to the guy asking for the POH,  if you go on the zenith website, and check in the builder's section,  just put in password and login.  in the 601xl update sewction is a full copy of a POH for a European model.

cheers



Juan



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