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Sean Blair

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 39
Location: Colorado Springs

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:32 am Post subject: Conduit

I'm getting ready to run conduit through the baqggage area and acquired the same stuff Tim Olsen is using.  It looks great, lots of room, and should do the job.  The concern I have is how large this is on the O.D. and will there be a significant weakening of the bulkheads from enlarging the holes to size?



I believe the O.D. is 1.125 inches.  I plan to run one on each side.  Tim and others, after you installed this conduit, did you have alot of extra capacity left over?  Could it be scaled down a little and still be sufficient?



Thanks,



Sean Blair

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: Conduit

I can't remember if it was 1.125 OD, or 1.05...I thought the latter.

Oh well.  I can't say for sure that you won't have any weakening

there, and no I didn't ask.  I have seen people drill 2 holes

there, instead of 1. I haven't fallen from the sky yet, but

I suppose it could happen any day. 



As for space left over, everything I have front to rear is run through

those conduits.  The side that has the 2 #2 welding wire runs is pretty

darn full.  Not much space left.  (I do have about 4 wires extra run

through just for future use, and even a couple shielded ones on the

other side.)  The opposite side has space left for more antenna wire or

other things, even though it has my huge (pinky sized) tygon static

tube running through it. I've heard that a pair of .75" ID lines

is just barely enough to manage in simpler installations, so I wanted

to guarantee a troublefree install.



I can't help make up your mind on what to do about the holes, but

I'm glad I have the space I do.  Esp. on the Left side, there's

just not much room to run things.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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seanblair(at)adelphia.net wrote:

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 I'm getting ready to run conduit through the baqggage area and

 acquired the same stuff Tim Olsen is using.  It looks great, lots of

 room, and should do the job.  The concern I have is how large this is

 on the O.D. and will there be a significant weakening of the

 bulkheads from enlarging the holes to size?

 

 I believe the O.D. is 1.125 inches.  I plan to run one on each side.

 Tim and others, after you installed this conduit, did you have alot

 of extra capacity left over?  Could it be scaled down a little and

 still be sufficient?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Sean Blair #40225

ddddsp1(at)juno.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: Conduit

Tim, 

You ran extra wires for FUTURE avionics?     You already have things in that plane that myself and others have not even DREAMED about yet.  I want in my FUTURE a hired pilot flying me, remotes in my hand watching videos/sateliteTV in the rear seat, drinking lots of cold imported beer and waiting to land at another exotic white sand beach.  LOL   OK........maybe I will put in a few 3 1/4 guages to make it IFR legal in a few years to fill up a few of the empty conduits before my FUTURE dream plane. 

Beats reading Eggenfeller posts, 

DEAN  40449 



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indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject: Conduit

You forgot the beautiful stewardess serving the drinks. Where's your head 

man!

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		  From: "ddddsp1(at)juno.com" <ddddsp1(at)juno.com>

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Subject: Re: Conduit

Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 04:45:04 GMT

Tim,

You ran extra wires for FUTURE avionics?     You already have things in 

that plane that myself and others have not even DREAMED about yet.  I want 

in my FUTURE a hired pilot flying me, remotes in my hand watching 

videos/sateliteTV in the rear seat, drinking lots of cold imported beer and 

waiting to land at another exotic white sand beach.  LOL   OK........maybe 

I will put in a few 3 1/4 guages to make it IFR legal in a few years to 

fill up a few of the empty conduits before my FUTURE dream plane.

Beats reading Eggenfeller posts,

DEAN  40449

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: Conduit

Well, there's still no interior lights other than panel lights, and

no built-in electronic O2 system.  Then a couple of wires for

battery bus uses if I ever find any (alarm system...).  After

that it'll get tougher....maybe a hot water heater so my sink

has hot water, and then there's the flush toilet and vanity.

I still won't have a kitchen sink, but a shower would be nice

on the longer flights. 



You can tell the difference between me and some....I'm the guy

who says "well, it's only 1.5 extra pounds of wire". <G>



The thing I don't get about your dream is, why aren't YOU

flying that plane instead of the hired pilot?  Man if I had

10 million dollars, I'd still be broke but I'd be flying

myself around in a Viper jet. 



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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ddddsp1(at)juno.com wrote:

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		   Tim,

 

 You ran extra wires for FUTURE avionics?     You already have things in 

 that plane that myself and others have not even DREAMED about yet.  I 

 want in my FUTURE a hired pilot flying me, remotes in my hand watching 

 videos/sateliteTV in the rear seat, drinking lots of cold imported beer 

 and waiting to land at another exotic white sand beach.  LOL   

 OK........maybe I will put in a few 3 1/4 guages to make it IFR legal in 

 a few years to fill up a few of the empty conduits before my FUTURE 

 dream plane.

 

 Beats reading Eggenfeller posts,

 

 DEAN  40449

jesse(at)itecusa.org
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: Conduit

I my experience (and with the wiring that I had) three total conduits of

3/4" OD (ID just a hair bigger than the #2 Welding wire) was sufficient,

although I had 4 of them, two down each side.  The welding wire took one by

itself.  If you are going to run a ground wire from the battery forward,

then it would obviously take more space as Tim mentioned.



Do not archive.



Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

www.itecusa.org

W: 352-465-4545

C: 352-427-0285

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jesse(at)itecusa.org
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: Conduit

So, if you had 10 million dollars, you would be broke?  I don't follow this

logic.  Actually, as far as I am concerned, you can have the 10 million

dollars.  "Give me neither poverty nor riches" is a motto I like to go by,

unlike the majority of people.  I assume you mean that if you got 10 million

dollars it would be gone soon, which would mean you would be broke, which

would mean you wouldn't be able to fuel that viper jet.



Ah, the relaxed nonsense outside the engine war.



Do not archive.



Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

www.itecusa.org

W: 352-465-4545

C: 352-427-0285



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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: Conduit

Just curious. Why would you run a #2 grounding wire forward? I understand it 

if the airframe is composite but an all metal aircraft provides a way to 

eliminate long grounds and save weight. You will be running a #20(?) aft to 

ground the master relay anyway.



Another consideration is running the DC wires down the left side of the 

fuselage and running the digital (shielded) pairs triplets and quads down 

the right side.

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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: Conduit

My theory is that I would rather die owing a million than with a million

in the bank, that way at least everyone would know I had fun!

Several people around here plan it so that the check the family writes

for the funeral bounces, now that is money management!

Dan 



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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:56 am Post subject: Conduit

Just to stir the pot "GRIN"

The Subaru package only takes 6 AWG wire instead of the 2AWG welding

wire, so more weight savings, oh and more space savings in the

conduit....

Dan  



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jesse(at)itecusa.org
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: Conduit

Some run a ground wire forward to avoid the possibility of ground loops in

the wiring and some even don't ground the battery locally.  There can be

benefits of both.  The main purpose of doing so is to avoid using the

airframe as ground so you KNOW where the current is flowing, and all of it

is flowing the same way.  I assume some also have 2 wires running from the

battery compartment because they have 2 batteries back there, but am not

sure.  I leave it to one and use grounding blocks to the airframe.



Do not archive.



Jesse Saint

I-TEC, Inc.

jesse(at)itecusa.org

www.itecusa.org

W: 352-465-4545

C: 352-427-0285



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