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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Hi guys,
I'm looking at a roll of adhesive backed tread strip that has to be cut
to three pieces
to fit my wing walks and grumbling about how grossly coarse the grit is
and wishing
there were a better alternative. The black looks correct, but I've
concerns about it staying
where it is put and the grit coming loose. I should have purchased it
this week instead of
3 years ago and now have doubts about its adhesive as well.

Does anyone have a tread strip that they're happy with? Something that
once on has had
no qualms about it being too rough or hard to keep its shape year after
year. I'd like to hear
from anyone who's applied it and feel they've purchased the right stuff.

Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Hi Larry
I used skateboard grip tape. It has held great for 2 years now. I went with
clear but should have used black. Clear doesnt stay clear for long. I got
the stuff at blackholeboards.com at least I think that was the link.
Relatively inexpensive too.
Regards
John
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From: LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Reply-To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Wing walk tread strip
Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:14:44 -0600



Hi guys,
I'm looking at a roll of adhesive backed tread strip that has to be cut to
three pieces
to fit my wing walks and grumbling about how grossly coarse the grit is and
wishing
there were a better alternative. The black looks correct, but I've concerns
about it staying
where it is put and the grit coming loose. I should have purchased it this
week instead of
3 years ago and now have doubts about its adhesive as well.

Does anyone have a tread strip that they're happy with? Something that
once on has had
no qualms about it being too rough or hard to keep its shape year after
year. I'd like to hear
from anyone who's applied it and feel they've purchased the right stuff.

Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Larry, the stuff I put on mine was not the usual paper-backed stuff. While on the hunt to find the usual I ran across some vinyl-based treads trip that's normally used in shower stalls. I put on 2 thin strips on either side and it works perfectly. Also, since it's vinyl it won't deteriorate after washing. I bought it at a local hardware store in the plumbing section.
P.S. Mine is grey so it fits in perfectly with my colour scheme.
Trev Page
C-IDUS 601HD R912


On Dec 5, 2006, at 8:14 PM, LarryMcFarland wrote:
[quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com (larry(at)macsmachine.com)>
Hi guys,
I'm looking at a roll of adhesive backed tread strip that has to be cut to three pieces
to fit my wing walks and grumbling about how grossly coarse the grit is and wishing
there were a better alternative. The black looks correct, but I've concerns about it staying
where it is put and the grit coming loose.  I should have purchased it this week instead of
3 years ago and now have doubts about its adhesive as well.
Does anyone have a tread strip that they're happy with?  Something that once on has had
no qualms about it being too rough or hard to keep its shape year after year.  I'd like to hear
from anyone who's applied it and feel they've purchased the right stuff.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Ray Allen Company (of trim servo fame) offers a non-gritty wing walk
material. I bought some but have not installed it yet. I can mail you a
small sample if you would like. Look at the bottom of
www.rayallencompany.com/products/accessories.html. Spruce sells it but I
have had no problem ordering direct from RAC and they sell it for less!

WWK-1 ... WING WALK MATERIAL

Ray Allen wing walks are a low profile, high quality, self-adhesive,
non-slip material. The rubbery texture feels much better to the touch (and
the knees) than the gritty, sandpaper-like material commonly used for wing
walks in the past.

One strip of wing walk material measures 26 1/2"(67.3 cm) x 9 1/2"(24.1 cm).
This can easily be cut down in size to suit your own application.
Installation is simple, just peel off the backing paper and press it down on
your wing.

$17

This material can also be cut in any length and up to 53" (1.34 m) in width.
Call for custom sizes.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Skateboard grip-tape. Very rugged. Get what they call dog-bite (very fine
grit). Grit will not come loose, trust me. My brother could go through 20
pair of shoes; 6 pair of jeans; several layers of skin and his tape would
still have plenty of grip. Sticks like you would not believe! Make sure you
don't lay it down where you don't want it.

Kevin Bonds

Nashville TN

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Empennage done; working on wings and engine.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

I used the black 3M brand adhesive backed tread tape in 4" width.
I've had no trouble with it coming loose in over 100 hours of use. It
can be peeled off with a bit of effort but it doesn't come loose on
its own. I first applied a couple of strips on the wing walk with a
space between them but later I decided to cover the entire wing root
out to about a foot from the fuselage. I peeled off the old stuff and
put new stuff on. Even after removal the adhesive on the old stuff
was still very sticky. In fact I even reused some of the old stuff
to fill in around the curve of the fuselage and on the boarding step.
It's still holding strong.

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<larry(at)macsmachine.com>

Hi guys,
I'm looking at a roll of adhesive backed tread strip that has to be
cut to three pieces
to fit my wing walks and grumbling about how grossly coarse the
grit is and wishing
there were a better alternative. The black looks correct, but I've
concerns about it staying
where it is put and the grit coming loose. I should have purchased
it this week instead of
3 years ago and now have doubts about its adhesive as well.

Does anyone have a tread strip that they're happy with? Something
that once on has had
no qualms about it being too rough or hard to keep its shape year
after year. I'd like to hear
from anyone who's applied it and feel they've purchased the right
stuff.

Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Re: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

I know there has been lots of talk lately about adding DO NOT ARCHIVE to messages but this is taking it a little far. This was good info that should be archived.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Larry- I just installed wing walk a week ago. I used Acft Spruce P/N
09-28210. It is self adhesive and is no problem installing. In fact if
you trim the corners to slightly round it won't peel up. when I decided
to paint the plane, I decided to take up the wing walk before painting and
then install new over the paint. It took me and a friend over two hours to
get the adhesive off after peeling off the wing walk. I masked off the
other wing and painted around it. It really has no grit on it to come off.
I think you'll be happy with it.
Regards,
Al Young
N601AY

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

I used the black 3M brand adhesive backed tread tape in 4" width.
I've had no trouble with it coming loose in over 100 hours of use. It
can be peeled off with a bit of effort but it doesn't come loose on
its own. I first applied a couple of strips on the wing walk with a
space between them but later I decided to cover the entire wing root
out to about a foot from the fuselage. I peeled off the old stuff and
put new stuff on. Even after removal the adhesive on the old stuff
was still very sticky. In fact I even reused some of the old stuff
to fill in around the curve of the fuselage and on the boarding step.
It's still holding strong.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Al, I lost your address and was waiting for you to post again to answer your question. The distance from the ground to the rear tie down loop is 550 mm. Or at least that it how high mine is. Hope your building is progressing and best regards, Bill of Georgia [quote][b]

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Bill- thanks much. I had forgotten that I had asked you. I wanted to compair yours to mine. I've got a problem with my canopy fit that I cannot figure out. also, when I re-installed the wings, suddenly my flaps wouldn't completely retract. I haven't had time to get into either problem very deep as my wife is requiring my full attention. I will get over to the hanger tomorrow and compair. Thanks again Bill. Regards, Al
PS- I've attached a pic of the new paint job.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

My apologies to the list- Thought this was going straight to Bill. Al Young
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Larry and listers,

You may not like my alternative to the gritty stuff most folks put on their
wings for the "wing walk" area. I've been in the indusrty for many years and
never saw a system or material that looked good and held up well.

My answer was to not apply anything! What I use is a piece of that rubber
waffle weave looking shelving material or tool box drawer liner. I just keep
it stored ( rolled up ) just behind the seat. When I open the canopy, I just
grab it, roll it out on the wing ( either left or right side as needed ) and
it does the job nicely - even on a wet wing ( it doesn't slip it just
grabs ). It has never failed me yet in ten years. Simple and the wing is
CLEAN!

The only draw back was once I forgot to put the piece of material back in
the airplane before starting the engine. Blew it away! I now have an item on
my checklist ( stow wing walk material ) Have never done it again!

Like I said this system won't be for everyone but it works for me.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:38 am    Post subject: Wing walk tread strip Reply with quote

Jim,

Quote:
From the looks standpoint you can get clear tread that is adhesive backed with grit on top. I have a friend that installed it on his RV and it doesn't detract from the paint scheme. I think his source was either Wicks or Aircraft Spruce.

C. L.

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[quote]

Larry and listers,

You may not like my alternative to the gritty stuff most folks put on their
wings for the "wing walk" area. I've been in the indusrty for many years and
never saw a system or material that looked good and held up well.

My answer was to not apply anything! What I use is a piece of that rubber
waffle weave looking shelving material or tool box drawer liner. I just keep
it stored ( rolled up ) just behind the seat. When I open the canopy, I just
grab it, roll it out on the wing ( either left or right side as needed ) and
it does the job nicely - even on a wet wing ( it doesn't slip it just
grabs ). It has never failed me yet in ten years. Simple and the wing is
CLEAN!

The only draw back was once I forgot to put the piece of material back in
the airplane before starting the engine. Blew it away! I now have an item on
my checklist ( stow wing walk material ) Have never done it again!

Like I said this system won't be for everyone but it works for me.

do not archive

Jim Hoak
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