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dcsfoto

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 120

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: Kitfox as a Lite Sport

I am attending an FAA class to add Lite Sport certification to my DAR limitations.

1.  I ask what is needed for me to operate my Kitfox 7 as a lite sport aircraft ( gross weight is the only factor for Kitfox) if I had the aircraft

certificated as a Experimental-Amateur Built with a gross weight at the time of certification of 1550 lbs.  

The responce: since Experimental Amateur Built airplanes have the gross weight set by the builder all I needed to do was redo the weight and balance to set a max of 1320 lbs, a logbook entry to denote the change and press on. I could also placard the inst panel. Lowering gross weight is not a major mod. Gross weight is not conected to the limitations.

DO NOT confuse experimental aircraft with FAA approved type certified aircraft. you cannot lower the gross weight of type certified aircraft this way.



The FAA people that teach this class are spokes people for Washington DC 

headquarters. In 16 years as a DAR they have not steared me wrong yet.

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roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: Kitfox as a Lite Sport

Wow! Could Steve be redeemed?   Ron NB Ore  do not archive

 	  Quote: 	
		  From: "dcsfoto" <david(at)kelm.com>

Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Kitfox as a Lite Sport

Date: Wed,  6 Dec 2006 19:11:21 -0800

I am attending an FAA class to add Lite Sport certification to my DAR 

limitations.

1.  I ask what is needed for me to operate my Kitfox 7 as a lite sport 

aircraft ( gross weight is the only factor for Kitfox) if I had the 

aircraft

certificated as a Experimental-Amateur Built with a gross weight at the 

time of certification of 1550 lbs.

The responce: since Experimental Amateur Built airplanes have the gross 

weight set by the builder all I needed to do was redo the weight and 

balance to set a max of 1320 lbs, a logbook entry to denote the change and 

press on. I could also placard the inst panel. Lowering gross weight is not 

a major mod. Gross weight is not conected to the limitations.

DO NOT confuse experimental aircraft with FAA approved type certified 

aircraft. you cannot lower the gross weight of type certified aircraft this 

way.

The FAA people that teach this class are spokes people for Washington DC

headquarters. In 16 years as a DAR they have not steared me wrong yet.

Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79714#79714

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smokey_bear_40220(at)yaho
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject: Kitfox as a Lite Sport

This would be great if the FAA sticks with it.  Might

save someone from selling their dear Fox in the future

too.  Maybe me?  Certainly didn't build it to make a

profit.  ha ha



Kurt S.  S-5



--- dcsfoto <david(at)kelm.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I am attending an FAA class to add Lite Sport

 certification to my DAR limitations.

 1.  I ask what is needed for me to operate my Kitfox

 7 as a lite sport aircraft ( gross weight is the

 only factor for Kitfox) if I had the aircraft

 certificated as a Experimental-Amateur Built with a

 gross weight at the time of certification of 1550

 lbs.  

 The responce: since Experimental Amateur Built

 airplanes have the gross weight set by the builder

 all I needed to do was redo the weight and balance

 to set a max of 1320 lbs, a logbook entry to denote

 the change and press on. I could also placard the

 inst panel. Lowering gross weight is not a major

 mod. Gross weight is not conected to the

 limitations.

 DO NOT confuse experimental aircraft with FAA

 approved type certified aircraft. you cannot lower

 the gross weight of type certified aircraft this

 way.

 

 The FAA people that teach this class are spokes

 people for Washington DC 

 headquarters. In 16 years as a DAR they have not

 steared me wrong yet.


	




 

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aldaniels(at)fmtcblue.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: Kitfox as a Lite Sport

That would be great if true. Last I check EAA was saying otherwise but 

were working on it. My suggestion to EAA was that most planes we fly 

have a couple of weight limit ( like lower for utility ) so why not let 

us put a 1320 limit to make the Sport Pilot requirements. Their response 

was that would make sense but FAA would not sign off on it. Just my 

guess but I think some might be redoing their W&B and data plates 

anyway. There are enough people in the know saying you can make the 

change to consider making the change and just not ask to many more 

questions.( leave me out of it, I know nothing) I think the real risk 

would be the insurance factor, aircraft, liability, and life.  The 

Kitfox  surely meets the intent of the Sport Pilot rule.



do not archive



ron schick wrote:

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 <roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.com>



 Wow! Could Steve be redeemed?   Ron NB Ore  do not archive

> From: "dcsfoto" <david(at)kelm.com>

> Reply-To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

> Subject: Kitfox as a Lite Sport

> Date: Wed,  6 Dec 2006 19:11:21 -0800

>

> 

>

> I am attending an FAA class to add Lite Sport certification to my DAR 

> limitations.

> 1.  I ask what is needed for me to operate my Kitfox 7 as a lite 

> sport aircraft ( gross weight is the only factor for Kitfox) if I had 

> the aircraft

> certificated as a Experimental-Amateur Built with a gross weight at 

> the time of certification of 1550 lbs.

> The responce: since Experimental Amateur Built airplanes have the 

> gross weight set by the builder all I needed to do was redo the 

> weight and balance to set a max of 1320 lbs, a logbook entry to 

> denote the change and press on. I could also placard the inst panel. 

> Lowering gross weight is not a major mod. Gross weight is not 

> conected to the limitations.

> DO NOT confuse experimental aircraft with FAA approved type certified 

> aircraft. you cannot lower the gross weight of type certified 

> aircraft this way.

>

> The FAA people that teach this class are spokes people for Washington DC

> headquarters. In 16 years as a DAR they have not steared me wrong yet.

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=79714#79714

>

>



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dcsfoto

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 120

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Kitfox as a Lite Sport

added info: check your limitations,the new limitations for phase one call for a log entry showing gross weight, make sure this is not above 1320.



those with old limitations should be ok.

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