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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

Does anyone know where to look for the serial number of a Yak in order to check if it matches with the books? I recently saw a Yak 50 in Germany which was from 1981 according to some documents, but the accompanying book had a serial number starting with 83. The book also had no history before 2001. Although the aircraft looked reasonably good, I’m quite suspicious about its history.  

   

   

Best regards,  

   

Jan Mevis  

Yak 50 RA2005K   

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HawkerPilot2015

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: aircraft serial number

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		  Does anyone know where to look for the serial number of a Yak in order to check if it matches with the books? I recently saw a Yak 50 in Germany which was from 1981 according to some documents, but the accompanying book had a serial number starting with 83. The book also had no history before 2001. Although the aircraft looked reasonably good, Iâ€™m quite suspicious about its history.  

   

   

Best regards,  

   

Jan Mevis  

Yak 50 RA2005K   

       	




There are a few places where you can find the number on a Yak-50. 



The firewall. If your looking at the fire wall, it is in the upper left corner. 

The tail, you would have to take some inspection panels off to find this one. 

Wing roots under the fairings. 



Actually, my serial number was plastered everywhere on the airplane. On the seat, inspection panels..ect. I have an issue with my serial number as it was entered wrong by either the previous owner or the man that certified the airplane here in the states. The mistake was never caught in subsequent years of "inspections" and has been a thorn in my side for some time. The local feds are going to try and clean it up for me. 



As for logbooks. Mine were supposedly lost but...well...I wont get started on that. Richard Goode was kind enough to talk to someone at Yak and they got me some info on the airplane. I also spoke to the man who exported it and he was quite helpful with some information on the airplane to include some damage that it suffered in Russia...funny how a guy can remember an airplane 10 years later but you cannot get the same info from someone who is supposed to have intimate knowledge of the airplane.



I would assume most Yak-50's have a history beyond thier current owner and can be traced. 



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aerobaticgirl(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

My Yak 55 was actually made in 93, so it had an original 93 serial number, but it never flew and was then reclassified a serial number in 95, so it became a 950 serial number.  It happens



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cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

In a message dated 12/9/2006 9:21:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  NiftyYak50(at)msn.com writes:

  

 CJ-6 serial numbers are (I was told and read somewhere) made up of 7  numbers.  Two of the number is the "batch" number or group of  airplanes coming down the line.  The middle numbers are supposed to be the  factory identifier.  And the last 2 numbers is the aircraft's number in  that batch.  In that case my CJ-6's number (2532059) which means it was in  batch #25 in factory #320 (Nanchang) and was the 59th airplane in that  batch.  Supposedly that it was built in 1969.  It actually  started life as a CJ-6 not a CJ-6A.

  

 Now quite frankly I am NOT sure if that is correct.  I do have a  person from China looking into the serial numbers for CJ-6s for me.  He is  an engineer type so we should get the straight scoop - - - I hope.

  

 Production of the CJ-6 was started in 1962, theoretically the first  airplane down the line should have had the serial number 0132001.  Jim  Plumlee of SC has a CJ with the serial number 0232019 and was supposed  to have been built in 1962.  It is the oldest CJ that I know of.

  

 Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

  

  

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[quote="jan.mevis(at)informavia.b"]Does    anyone know where to look for the serial number of a Yak in order to check if    it matches with the books? I recently saw a Yak 50 in Germany which was from    1981 according to some documents, but the accompanying book had a serial    number starting with 83. The book also had no history before 2001. Although    the aircraft looked reasonably good, IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m quite suspicious about its    history.  

   

   

Best regards,     

   

Jan Mevis  

Yak 50 RA2005K   

          

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There are a few places where you    can find the number on a Yak-50. 



The firewall. If your looking at the    fire wall, it is in the upper left corner. 

The tail, you would have to    take some inspection panels off to find this one. 

Wing roots under the    fairings. 



Actually, my serial number was plastered everywhere on the    airplane. On the seat, inspection panels..ect. I have an issue with my serial    number as it was entered wrong by either the previous owner or the man that    certified the airplane here in the states. The mistake was never caught in    subsequent years of "inspections" and has been a thorn in my side for some    time. The local feds are going to try and clean it up for me. 



As for    logbooks. Mine were supposedly lost but...well...I wont get started on that.    Richard Goode was kind enough to talk to someone at Yak and they got me some    info on the airplane. I also spoke to the man who exported it and he was quite    helpful with some information on the airplane to include some damage that it    suffered in Russia...funny how a guy can remember an airplane 10 years later    but you cannot get the same info from someone who is supposed to have intimate    knowledge of the airplane.



I would assume most Yak-50's have a history    beyond thier current owner and can be traced. 



Good    luck!





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dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.co
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

A serial number DATA PLATE is usually located at the tail end of the 

fuselage on the flat sheet metal section just in front of the rudder.  It is 

usually about .75" tall by about 2.5" wide and is riveted to the sheet 

metal.  The serial number is stamped in this plate.  Using my personal Yak 

52 as an example, if one were to remove any removable panel, such as 

inspection panels or wing/tail feather fairings or even the cowling, the 

serial number is stenciled on each part.

Dennis



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

Ditto, In my 50 and 52, it is stenciled everywhere.

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 From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.com>

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 Date: 12/9/2006 10:31:21 PM

 Subject: Re: Re: aircraft serial number

<dsavarese(at)elmore.rr.com>

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 A serial number DATA PLATE is usually located at the tail end of the 

 fuselage on the flat sheet metal section just in front of the rudder.  It

is 

 	  Quote: 	
		   usually about .75" tall by about 2.5" wide and is riveted to the sheet 

 metal.  The serial number is stamped in this plate.  Using my personal

Yak 

[quote] 52 as an example, if one were to remove any removable panel, such as 

 inspection panels or wing/tail feather fairings or even the cowling, the 

 serial number is stenciled on each part.

 Dennis

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jan.mevis(at)informavia.b
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: aircraft serial number

Thanks all for the info. I'll check this today on my own Yak 50 and on the

52's of my fellow Yak-addicts. But with what I saw in Germany, I'm convinced

that the complete history of a Yak is often very hazy. The Yak 50 I saw was

claimed to have been in the former German Democratic Republic with the

Russian Army. Then it was sold by a former Russian military man to the new

owner. The plane came with a Russian truck, and was re-assembled in

West-Germany. This took quite some time, and the plane almost never flew. So

it looks rather good, even with the original Russian paint. The engine came

from a Yak 52, according to its serial number and book. But the lack of

history makes it all suspicious. The former Soviet Union was very

bureaucratic. So they must have all the details. But I also know that

paperwork was sometimes "corrected" in order to have it all OK. And I think

that these practices subsist today.



Jan Mevis

Yak 50 RA2005K



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wlannon(at)cablerocket.co
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

Jim;

  

 From the information I have you are correct. 

  

 Walt

  

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cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

In a message dated 12/10/2006 3:31:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  wlannon(at)cablerocket.com writes:

  

 Walt,

  

 Thanks - - -  I think.  I just got word from Rich Hess who has a  new 'CJ-6 G' built just 2 years ago (It has a 400 hp and metal 3 bladed prop)  that his serial number is H2S001.  Maybe the Chinese are starting a new  numbering system on the CJs.  Go figure.

  

 Jim

  

 [quote]   Jim;

    

   From the information I have you are correct. 

    

   Walt

    

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rvfltd(at)televar.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: aircraft serial number

Walt and Jim,

 Jim's description is correct for aircraft placed in service with the PLAAF and is the same with the CJ5's.  Those aircraft sold "outside" have different serial numbers.  My fresh overhauled airframes all had new S#'s issued to them.  They  have a serial number similar to the two new CJ's I brought in, which is a two digit number then a dash and two more digits, nothing like Rich Hess's S#.  Like you said... go figure.

 

 Best Christmas wishes to all,

 Always Yakin,

 Doug Sapp

 

 

 

 cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com) wrote:

 [quote]               In a message dated 12/10/2006 3:31:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wlannon(at)cablerocket.com (wlannon(at)cablerocket.com) writes:

    

   Walt,

    

   Thanks - - -  I think.  I just got word from Rich Hess who has a new 'CJ-6 G' built just 2 years ago (It has a 400 hp and metal 3 bladed prop) that his serial number is H2S001.  Maybe the Chinese are starting a new numbering system on the CJs.  Go figure.

    

   Jim

    

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		       Jim;

      

     From the information I have you are correct. 

      

     Walt

      

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       To:       yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com) 

       Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:25 PM

       Subject: Re: Re: aircraft serial number

       

       

                     In a message dated 12/9/2006 9:21:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, NiftyYak50(at)msn.com (NiftyYak50(at)msn.com) writes:

        

       CJ-6 serial numbers are (I was told and read somewhere) made up of 7 numbers.  Two of the number is the "batch" number or group of airplanes coming down the line.  The middle numbers are supposed to be the factory identifier.  And the last 2 numbers is the aircraft's number in that batch.  In that case my CJ-6's number (2532059) which means it was in batch #25 in factory #320 (Nanchang) and was the 59th airplane in that batch.  Supposedly that it was built in 1969.  It actually started life as a CJ-6 not a CJ-6A.

        

       Now quite frankly I am NOT sure if that is correct.  I do have a person from China looking into the serial numbers for CJ-6s for me.  He is an engineer type so we should get the straight scoop - - - I hope.

        

       Production of the CJ-6 was started in 1962, theoretically the first airplane down the line should have had the serial number 0132001.  Jim Plumlee of SC has a CJ with the serial number 0232019 and was supposed to have been built in 1962.  It is the oldest CJ that I know of.

        

       Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

        

        

       

       

	
     

	
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