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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

The last couple of times I have orderred parts through Van's I have been
dissappointed in how long it took to get my stuff.

Last Friday I orderred some accessories over the phone, just three or four
and asked for standard UPS ground delivery.

The following Monday morning, two and a half days later, I called to add a
few small items, rivets and nuts. I was told that there was no way to
include these items in my previous order so that shipping could be all
together, no interest what so ever in even checking the status of my Friday
order.

Today I got a UPS confirmation that UPS received a package for shipment to
me from Van's. For one week the order is sitting in Van's being filled
before it even gets in the mail. So much for getting anything done on what
I need to get done during this holiday weekend.

Very frustrating and not the first time.

I know that Aircraft, Spruce and Specialty has a west coast location, but i
order through them anytime before 3pm and the next day it is sitting in my
office. EVERYTIME!

Just venting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I always try to not order the small stuff through Van's for this very
reason. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

John G.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

Van's orders take planning.....they have always shipped on their schedule...they are not ACS for sure but when they have what you need...time is on thier side. ALWAYS been that way...not gonna change...get used to it, accept it and enjoy the handling charge..

They are still OK in my book.

Rick S.
40185

FF kit arrived today and more INVENTORY AND STINKING PAPER PACKING...(exhaust looks kewl!!!)
Thought I was done with that, vent over with...back to your original programming.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

Yeah, I've had similar experiences. One time after I got the "your order
has already shipped so we can't add to it" answer, my wife called FedEx to
confirm that (if you knew her this would make sense). Turns out FedEx
hadn't shown up at Vans yet so she called them on it and insisted they add
to my existing order. Most recently I ordered a replacement F-1010 bulkhead
1st thing monday morning, only to have it shipped the following Friday.

Vans makes a tremendous product but I'd say the Marketing and Customer
Service deptments are somewhat subpar. Oh well. I think from now on, I'll
just plan to pay extra for the 2 day shipping to avoid extended buildus
interruptus.

Just my $.02

-Brian

Iowa City, IA
#40497
Tailcone rivets this weekend!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

I think I'm experiencing that now. I ordered some parts Monday, it
showed up on the "ship list" on Tuesday (that's good). But it's not in
UPS's tracking system yet (which happens within minutes of actual
pickup). I'm concluding that "ship list" means, "ordered rec'd and sent
for picking/packing".

The aircraft are so good, the kits so well engineered, and the overall
experience so wonderful that I'm fine with Van's core compentencies
being over in the design and engineering area. Receiving, picking,
packing and otherwise processing parts orders is important for Amazon.
I sense that suppling parts and accessories is a merely a requirement
for Vans being in this business.

Remember when it took 'everyone' 3 days to process an order for
anything? Ship overnight? forgetaboutit!

Bill "deburr, dimple, deburr, dimple, deburr dimple the tailcone" Watson

Brian Douglas wrote:
[quote]
<bsponcil(at)belinblank.org>
Yeah, I've had similar experiences. One time after I got the "your
order has already shipped so we can't add to it" answer, my wife
called FedEx to confirm that (if you knew her this would make sense).
Turns out FedEx hadn't shown up at Vans yet so she called them on it
and insisted they add to my existing order. Most recently I ordered a
replacement F-1010 bulkhead 1st thing monday morning, only to have it
shipped the following Friday.

Vans makes a tremendous product but I'd say the Marketing and Customer
Service deptments are somewhat subpar. Oh well. I think from now on,
I'll just plan to pay extra for the 2 day shipping to avoid extended
buildus interruptus.

Just my $.02

-Brian

Iowa City, IA
#40497
Tailcone rivets this weekend!

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

Just because you guys request overnight or two day shipping does not bump it
up in the order department at Van's

As Tim Olson and several others can attest too, including me, be very
reluctant to ship anything overnight or even two day. You will be blown
away by how much it costs. And absolutely, never get anything for Saturday
delivery.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try it out or take my word for it...don't do it.

John G

[quote]From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go??
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:36:26 -0500



I think I'm experiencing that now. I ordered some parts Monday, it showed
up on the "ship list" on Tuesday (that's good). But it's not in UPS's
tracking system yet (which happens within minutes of actual pickup). I'm
concluding that "ship list" means, "ordered rec'd and sent for
picking/packing".

The aircraft are so good, the kits so well engineered, and the overall
experience so wonderful that I'm fine with Van's core compentencies being
over in the design and engineering area. Receiving, picking, packing and
otherwise processing parts orders is important for Amazon. I sense that
suppling parts and accessories is a merely a requirement for Vans being in
this business.

Remember when it took 'everyone' 3 days to process an order for anything?
Ship overnight? forgetaboutit!

Bill "deburr, dimple, deburr, dimple, deburr dimple the tailcone" Watson

Brian Douglas wrote:
>
>Yeah, I've had similar experiences. One time after I got the "your order
>has already shipped so we can't add to it" answer, my wife called FedEx to
>confirm that (if you knew her this would make sense). Turns out FedEx
>hadn't shown up at Vans yet so she called them on it and insisted they add
>to my existing order. Most recently I ordered a replacement F-1010
>bulkhead 1st thing monday morning, only to have it shipped the following
>Friday.
>
>Vans makes a tremendous product but I'd say the Marketing and Customer
>Service deptments are somewhat subpar. Oh well. I think from now on,
>I'll just plan to pay extra for the 2 day shipping to avoid extended
>buildus interruptus.
>
>Just my $.02
>
>-Brian
>
>Iowa City, IA
>#40497
>Tailcone rivets this weekend!
>
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

I just confirmed my order for QB wings, fuse, and finishing kit today. Told
the kits should be ready to ship late Feb. to mid March. I was told as of
today there are 688 RV-10s being built. I ordered parts for a new right
trim tab on 12/20. Parts came today Fed Ex. I was told they wouldn't
arrive till after Xmas. Shipping is a bit high I guess, $24.83 to
Milwaukee, WI (roughly).
But I guess I can never complain about getting something delivered across
the country in two days for $25.00. The game is to try not to have to many
odds and ends shipped in between major orders. I am one who thinks the USPS
should just raise their stamp rate to .50 and get it over with for a while.
Never had a problem with anything from Van's yet. Still waiting on
Creativeair lights since 12/12 though.

Dave Leikam
40496
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

Actually, I've been using more and more USPS and USPS Priority...simply
for the fact that with no extra charge, I can get Saturday delivery,
and often that makes the difference of getting parts for the weekend
that wouldn't make it by ground on Friday.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John Gonzalez wrote:
[quote]


Just because you guys request overnight or two day shipping does not
bump it up in the order department at Van's

As Tim Olson and several others can attest too, including me, be very
reluctant to ship anything overnight or even two day. You will be blown
away by how much it costs. And absolutely, never get anything for
Saturday delivery.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Try it out or take my word for it...don't do it.

John G

> From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
> Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Van's shipping department, where did everyone
> go??
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:36:26 -0500
>
>
>
> I think I'm experiencing that now. I ordered some parts Monday, it
> showed up on the "ship list" on Tuesday (that's good). But it's not
> in UPS's tracking system yet (which happens within minutes of actual
> pickup). I'm concluding that "ship list" means, "ordered rec'd and
> sent for picking/packing".
>
> The aircraft are so good, the kits so well engineered, and the overall
> experience so wonderful that I'm fine with Van's core compentencies
> being over in the design and engineering area. Receiving, picking,
> packing and otherwise processing parts orders is important for
> Amazon. I sense that suppling parts and accessories is a merely a
> requirement for Vans being in this business.
>
> Remember when it took 'everyone' 3 days to process an order for
> anything? Ship overnight? forgetaboutit!
>
> Bill "deburr, dimple, deburr, dimple, deburr dimple the tailcone" Watson
>
> Brian Douglas wrote:
>>
>> <bsponcil(at)belinblank.org>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I've had similar experiences. One time after I got the "your
>> order has already shipped so we can't add to it" answer, my wife
>> called FedEx to confirm that (if you knew her this would make
>> sense). Turns out FedEx hadn't shown up at Vans yet so she called
>> them on it and insisted they add to my existing order. Most recently
>> I ordered a replacement F-1010 bulkhead 1st thing monday morning,
>> only to have it shipped the following Friday.
>>
>> Vans makes a tremendous product but I'd say the Marketing and
>> Customer Service deptments are somewhat subpar. Oh well. I think
>> from now on, I'll just plan to pay extra for the 2 day shipping to
>> avoid extended buildus interruptus.
>>
>> Just my $.02
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> Iowa City, IA
>> #40497
>> Tailcone rivets this weekend!
>>
>> ---


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

The real trick is to find a guy building nearby who's running about 6
months or so behind you. That way, when you screw up a part, you can
run up to his house and get another... then Vans can take their sweet
time getting him the replacement.

Jeff Carpenter
40304
About to embark on the "old fashioned" IFR ticket plan

On Dec 22, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Tim Olson wrote:

[quote]

Actually, I've been using more and more USPS and USPS
Priority...simply
for the fact that with no extra charge, I can get Saturday delivery,
and often that makes the difference of getting parts for the weekend
that wouldn't make it by ground on Friday.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com>
> Just because you guys request overnight or two day shipping does
> not bump it up in the order department at Van's
> As Tim Olson and several others can attest too, including me, be
> very reluctant to ship anything overnight or even two day. You
> will be blown away by how much it costs. And absolutely, never get
> anything for Saturday delivery.
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
> $!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try it out or take my word
> for it...don't do it.
> John G
>> From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>
>> Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Van's shipping department, where did
>> everyone go??
>> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:36:26 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>> I think I'm experiencing that now. I ordered some parts Monday,
>> it showed up on the "ship list" on Tuesday (that's good). But
>> it's not in UPS's tracking system yet (which happens within
>> minutes of actual pickup). I'm concluding that "ship list"
>> means, "ordered rec'd and sent for picking/packing".
>>
>> The aircraft are so good, the kits so well engineered, and the
>> overall experience so wonderful that I'm fine with Van's core
>> compentencies being over in the design and engineering area.
>> Receiving, picking, packing and otherwise processing parts orders
>> is important for Amazon. I sense that suppling parts and
>> accessories is a merely a requirement for Vans being in this
>> business.
>>
>> Remember when it took 'everyone' 3 days to process an order for
>> anything? Ship overnight? forgetaboutit!
>>
>> Bill "deburr, dimple, deburr, dimple, deburr dimple the tailcone"
>> Watson
>>
>> Brian Douglas wrote:
>>>
>>> <bsponcil(at)belinblank.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've had similar experiences. One time after I got the
>>> "your order has already shipped so we can't add to it" answer,
>>> my wife called FedEx to confirm that (if you knew her this would
>>> make sense). Turns out FedEx hadn't shown up at Vans yet so she
>>> called them on it and insisted they add to my existing order.
>>> Most recently I ordered a replacement F-1010 bulkhead 1st thing
>>> monday morning, only to have it shipped the following Friday.
>>>
>>> Vans makes a tremendous product but I'd say the Marketing and
>>> Customer Service deptments are somewhat subpar. Oh well. I
>>> think from now on, I'll just plan to pay extra for the 2 day
>>> shipping to avoid extended buildus interruptus.
>>>
>>> Just my $.02
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>> Iowa City, IA
>>> #40497
>>> Tailcone rivets this weekend!
>>>
>>> ---


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

Plan and expect for 5 working days to get an order out the door, then
regular shipping time to your destination and it will be about right.
If you have a small order and do USPS Priority Mail, typically you will
be put closer to the top of the list.

Because of this, I typically order everything I can from Spruce... Order
Monday, receive it Wednesday regular UPS....
-Mike

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

Dave,

What is Van's quoting for a lead time on the "standard" build wing kit these days. I am hoping to be done with my elevators this week and will be starting the "tunnel".

Anyone have an hours estimate for finishing the tail cone so I can plan my ordering lead time?

Michael Chase
General Dynamics Armament and Technical Products
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM(at)WI.RR.COM>

I just confirmed my order for QB wings, fuse, and finishing kit today. Told
the kits should be ready to ship late Feb. to mid March. I was told as of
today there are 688 RV-10s being built. I ordered parts for a new right
trim tab on 12/20. Parts came today Fed Ex. I was told they wouldn't
arrive till after Xmas. Shipping is a bit high I guess, $24.83 to
Milwaukee, WI (roughly).
But I guess I can never complain about getting something delivered across
the country in two days for $25.00. The game is to try not to have to many
odds and ends shipped in between major orders. I am one who thinks the USPS
should just raise their stamp rate to .50 and get it over with for a while.
Never had a problem with anything from Van's yet. Still waiting on
Creativeair lights since 12/12 though.

Dave Leikam
40496
tail assembly


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

If you mean me (Dave Leikam), I didn't get any info on slow build kit delivery times. Only what I was told about the QB I ordered. Mid March delivery, ordered Dec. 22nd.
I could check to be sure, but I want to say my tail cone took about 70 hours.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

I just got my standard or slow-build wings in November. It took 8 weeks to get them shipped. I ordered some parts such as the fuel senders and some tubing. 2 weeks after the order was placed it finally showed up. As for the tailcone I spent about 85 hours on it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Van's shipping department, where did everyone go?? Reply with quote

Eric,
Thanks sounds like I need to think about ordering now, or more accurately do my taxes to make sure I can afford to order them:-).

You mentioned fuel sendors, over to the crowd what else do you I need to order with the wings? I am trying to go cheap so am not planning on doing anything to fancy, just lights and an attempt at a cheap IFR cockpit, if such a thing exists..


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I just got my standard or slow-build wings in November. It took 8 weeks to get them shipped. I ordered some parts such as the fuel senders and some tubing. 2 weeks after the order was placed it finally showed up. As for the tailcone I spent about 85 hours on it.

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