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nyterminat(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I am a retired General Contractor who does missionary building projects for several organizations.

 Bob Spudis, Upstate NY

  

  

  

 In a message dated 12/29/06 01:10:02 Eastern Standard Time, pacificpainting(at)comcast.net writes:

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		    I'M JUST SITTING HERE AT THE COMPUTER TAKING A BREAK FROM DRILLING HOLES AND GOT TO THINKING ABOUT ALL THE VARIOUS KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING, WANT TO BUILD, OR ARE FLYING ZAC PLANES. I'M CURIOUS. WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING? I'M A COMMERCIAL PAINTING CONTRACTOR IN OREGON.  OF COURSE YOU CAN DELETE ME FOR ASKING AND MAYBE IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS, BUT THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT KEY IS FOR. THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO KNOW.

  

 DAVE IN SALEM

  

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todd(at)toddtown.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I am also a computer programmer, been doing that since the 70’s, professionally for 17 years now. I live just outside of Madison, WI but work for a resort in Orlando, FL so I travel down there a lot. I am the world slowest airplane builder.  

     

   

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Carlos Sa

Joined: 13 Jan 2006
Posts: 96

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Hello, Dave, listers



Dave, thanks for starting this thread, it is fascinating reading!



Many winters ago, while I was on my second year of Electrical Engineering, I got a part time job as computer programmer.

I did get my degree in Electrical Engineering, but have been in IT since then (1972).

I worked as a System Programmer on zSeries since they were called simply /370, and eventually (8 years ago) got the job I have today. It consists of creating service offerings for outsourcing IT services. 

I work from home about 50% of the time, and the rest of the time I work wherever the client's head office is (frequently Toronto).



Happy New Year to all!

Carlos

CH601-HD, plans

Montreal, Canada

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		  "pacificpainting(at)comcas"... WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING? I'M A COMMERCIAL PAINTING CONTRACTOR IN  OREGON. ...

  

 DAVE IN SALEM

  

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billbutlergps(at)aim.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Craig, 

 You beat me to it =

 Bill 

 

   

  

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

J-

     Per customer specification,  laser mike calibrated to .00003 with XXX gage pins, average of 16 readings  on the critical diameter. Part spec is plus/minus .0001, we flag at 75% and  make adjustments. Atmosphere environmentally controlled to 70 deg plus/minus 2,  30 deg RH plus/minus 3. 1 hour stabilization period before measurement. (4 hours  after shutdown of environmental controls or laser mike). 

     I know what you're thinking- in  reality, you can't keep that kind of tolerance in plastic. The  customer obviously built in a slop factor to meet his true requirements.  Still, you have to admit that's disgustingly tight. That's why I make the  big bucks. Hah!

     You can imagine the fights we've  had over the years between process engineering and QA. It wasn't until we  recently designed and built a custom chuck for the laser mike that everyone  involved didn't cringe when this job started up!

  

 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:05 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

So I think we are all covered. We have CAD folks,  engineers, skilled machinists and painters, people who know GPS and  ATC.

  

 We have way too many computer people but we can start  working on the fly-by-wire 601.

  

 A few folks on the list actually make a living in  aviation (or are trying)!

  

 And if things don't quite work out we have nurses, doctors,  dentists, lawyers, coroners, church folk and a band director for music at the  funeral 

  

 -- Craig

  

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n4546v(at)mindspring.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

We are a manufacturer of Brass Padlocks.  We  are the largest padlock manufacturer West of the Mississippi (easy when you are  the ONLY one in the West).  We are also the World's smallest padlock  manufacturer.

  

 www.newstandardpadlocks.com

  

 Regards,

  

 Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas

  

  

  WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING?  

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   DAVE IN SALEM

    

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gboothe(at)calply.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I use the same controls in my shop (garage) – just different numbers….  

   

Gary  

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From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk

 Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:59 AM

 To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com

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    Per customer specification, laser mike calibrated to .00003 with XXX gage pins, average of 16 readings on the critical diameter. Part spec is plus/minus .0001, we flag at 75% and make adjustments. Atmosphere environmentally controlled to 70 deg plus/minus 2, 30 deg RH plus/minus 3. 1 hour stabilization period before measurement. (4 hours after shutdown of environmental controls or laser mike).   

    

    I know what you're thinking- in reality, you can't keep that kind of tolerance in plastic. The customer obviously built in a slop factor to meet his true requirements. Still, you have to admit that's disgustingly tight. That's why I make the big bucks. Hah!  

    

    You can imagine the fights we've had over the years between process engineering and QA. It wasn't until we recently designed and built a custom chuck for the laser mike that everyone involved didn't cringe when this job started up!  

    

   

    

Bill Naumuk

 HDS Fuselage

 Townville, Pa  

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steve(at)cccparis.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I'm a counselor and a minister building a new church, scratch building my 701 

keeps me sane keeps me sane keeps me sane keeps me sane. . .

Steve Russell

701 scratch

Paris, TX

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TO BUILD, OR ARE FLYING ZAC PLANES. I'M CURIOUS. WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR 

A LIVING? I'M A COMMERCIAL PAINTING CONTRACTOR IN OREGON.  OF COURSE YOU CAN 

DELETE ME FOR ASKING AND MAYBE IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS, BUT THEN THAT'S WHAT 

THAT KEY IS FOR. THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO KNOW.

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barcusc(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I know your pain, we sell carbide seal faces that  must be within two light-bands in flatness. Occasionally we have a problem with  customers that don't have the quality of equipment we have, I know you  understand our pain.

  

 Clyde Barcus

  

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Gary-

     What's the big deal? I get paid  triple time for regurgitating this information on my vacation, don't  I? 

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 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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rsq2424(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

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Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Posts: 488
Location: "Thumb" of Michigan

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I retired from teaching high school biology and chemistry after 34 years (2005.)  I've been flying since 1975 and am a CFII.  I've owned a 172, 182 and Aeronca Champ (still have the Champ.)  The XL is my first attempt at homebuilding.



I'm also partners in a small video production business that specializes in producing videos on shipwrecks in the Great Lakes and elsewhere. We currently use Sony High Def cameras in UW housings and get some great stuff, even the occasional airplane!



Tim



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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Almost done! It'll fly in spring!

JERICKSON03E(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Hi Dave, Great question.

  

 I'm retired now, army aviation civilian specialist for QA, maintenance, logistics & program management.

 Along the way was a navy AC structural mechanic, Air Guard AC mechanic & Maintenance Ofcr. 

 Some where in there was an AC maintenance engr. with MAC AIR in Saint Louis, fast airplanes.

 Fastest AC project was the B-70, hydraulic power systems, Vickers Aerospace.

 Slowest AC project is the Z 701 living in my workshop.

 Stay interested through the EAA, Tech Councelor,,,fabric covering instruction at Osh in 06,,, and the Zenith builder list. A&P just for fun. Thanks, and bless us builders one and all.

  

 Jerry

 Lake Saint Louis, MO

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grs-pms(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Dave:

  

 I was an aeronautical engineer for 38 plus  years.  I worked as a design engineer for Cessna, McDonnell, and  retired after 29 years with Boeing.  Between Mac and Boeing I spent 4 1/2  years helping to design and develop the Skyway AC-35 autogiro.  This  was the last such aircraft to legitimately use the designation "autogiro".   All since are autogyros or gyroplanes.  I am currently taking way too  long to finish my 601HD.

  

 George Swinford

  

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hrs1(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

This is a fun question for the holidays, and everyone is in a good  

mood.  I graduated in civil engineering in the late fifties and got my 

PE license.  I started with a consulting engineering firm which designed 

subdivisions and other land related projects.  After attending planning 

board meetings 3 to 4 mights a week for 17 years, I sold my interests in 

the firm and started in land brokerage which I still occasionally do.  

Early in this second career I backed into upscale homebuilding which I 

did for 25 years, quiting that about 2 years ago.  Now my wife and I 

just buy and develop land which is a real joy.  We also have purchased 

34 acres and plan to build a home thereon.  The hanger is already done. 

I have the big boy's toys like a dozer, etc. Any day one can drive a 

dozer or drive around in a pickup looking for land is a good day.   43 

years old and trapped in a 70 year old body - I only have 30 good ones 

left.  Everyone have a quality new year.  Robert Schoenberger, 

Pittsford, NY 701 60%  do not archive.



Dave Ruddiman wrote:

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		   I'M JUST SITTING HERE AT THE COMPUTER TAKING A BREAK FROM DRILLING 

 HOLES AND GOT TO THINKING ABOUT ALL THE VARIOUS KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT 

 ARE BUILDING, WANT TO BUILD, OR ARE FLYING ZAC PLANES. I'M CURIOUS. 

 WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING? I'M A COMMERCIAL PAINTING 

 CONTRACTOR IN OREGON.  OF COURSE YOU CAN DELETE ME FOR ASKING AND 

 MAYBE IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS, BUT THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT KEY IS FOR. 

 THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO KNOW.

  

 DAVE IN SALEM

  

 DO NOT ARCHIVE

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davidhwright(at)mac.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Craig

Add to the list a 30 year detective, who could take his pension in March - but has two high maintenance daughters who will ensure he keeps working!!!



Dave

601XL - scratchbuild wings

Washington UK

 

On 29 Dec 2006, at 17:04, Craig Payne wrote:

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		  So I think we are all covered. We have CAD folks, engineers, skilled machinists and painters, people who know GPS and ATC.

 

We have way too many computer people but we can start working on the fly-by-wire 601.

 

A few folks on the list actually make a living in aviation (or are trying)!

 

And if things don't quite work out we have nurses, doctors, dentists, lawyers, coroners, church folk and a band director for music at the funeral 

 

-- Craig

 

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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Hi Ron;

   

  I am still trying to make the decision between the XL and a RV9! If I do go the XL route, I will be reversing the entire design into CAD - that is just the way I like to work; it is a virtual build that really exposes questions before chips start to fall.

   

  If you are still looking then and I do go that way I would be glad to send you the templates for the form blocks. When I do the development of the patterns I will be putting the springback corrections in per the Boeing design handbook values for 6061T6 sheet.

   

  Has anyone used T4 for the formed parts? Seems like there might be a major advantage.



Ron Lalonde <rlalonde(at)HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

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Hi Gang

Well, all  you fellas seem to have pretty illustrious careers!!

Myself, I retired from the Air Force in 1995, and am now a janitor at a 

small elementary school.

I previously built a Volksplane and have most of the major parts of a 

LongEZ in my basement.

My son and I went to Oshkosh last summer and he fell in love with the Zenith 

601XL, which I recently started building.



PS: With all you CAD people and programmers on board is there anyone of you 

that have or know where I can obtain CAD templates for the form blocks of 

the 601XL....contact me offlist...rlalonde(at)hotmail.com.....Tks



Ron Lalonde

Debert, Nova Scotia, Canada

601XL



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rsq2424(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

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planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

It might be a useful thing to have a set of form blocks milled from aluminum that could be shared between the continuing strinjg of scratch builders.



kkinney <kkinney(at)fuse.net> wrote:  [quote]--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kkinney" 



I'm a sysprog on IBM zSeries boxes. (the big ones) I'm pretty sure that has something to do with computers.

Oh, I code in a dozen or so languages and play with Unix systems. (More computer stuff, I think.)



For fun, I play with CNC and microcontrollers, so I may be contacting some of you off list.



Thank you for starting this thread. It helps to get to know some of our fellow posters.



Regards,

Kevin Kinney





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