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Darrellhaas(at)verizon.ne
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 Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: air compresser |
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I'm trying to build up my tools to build a 601xl. Anyone have advice on the specs for a good air compressor to run my riveter and paint equipment. Any and all advice appreciated.
Darrell
Troutdale, Oregon
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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject: air compresser |
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Hi Darrell,
I got a nice compressor at the Tool Peddler on 82nd Ave. last year. It is Eagle brand from Canada. It has a vertical tank and wheels. The most important feature is it runs from a motor and belt rather than a direct drive compressor. That means it is quiet instead of incredibly noisy.
Good luck,
Paul
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Camas, WA - about 10 miles north of Troutdale.
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| Quote: | I'm trying to build up my tools to build a 601xl. Anyone have advice on the specs for a good air compressor to run my riveter and paint equipment. Any and all advice appreciated.
Darrell
Troutdale, Oregon
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georgerace
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: air compresser |
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Hi Darrell:
A couple of years ago I bought a nice vertical 33 gallon, on wheels, from Sears. It is NOT a belt drive and is very noisy. Fortunately I keep the compressor out in the hanger, divided off from the shop by a 2X4 insulated wall. Works great and they have them on sale quite often, good price less than $300. But it is NOISY!
George
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Bill(at)flyinmiata.com
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| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: air compresser |
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Don't forget pawn shops, always seems to be a stack of compressors at the local one.
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Crvsecretary(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: air compresser |
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Darrell:
For riveting, almost any compressor will do - air consumption (CFM) is next to nothing and pressures are moderate. So, pick a unit according to the space, electrical service, and dollars available.
"Oil-less" compressors are generally small, 110VAC NOISY compressors that run direct from a motor usually at 3450 RPM - that's TWICE as fast as a "standard" electric motor. That's how they get the performance ratings they get. Oilless compressors are generally non-repairable and relatively inexpensive. You see them on roofs running nail guns and other low-CFM applications.
Painting is another story. You need LOTS of CFM (cubic feet per minute) and you want oil free, DRY air. Lots of CFM and "oil-less" are usually not compatable goals (more on that in a bit). BELT-DRIVE compressors run slow and quieter (NOT "quiet"...but quieter) than direct-drive oil-less types. For painting you need filters to trap oil that gets by the compressor and water filters/dryers to get the condensate that gets past the tank (you DO drain the tank every time you stop work, don't you ??)
I was lucky enough to get a belt-drive OIL-LESS compressor salvaged from a printing press installation. It is Japanese and had a 3-phase motor, but I converted it to single phase. I get plenty of CFM and pressure for my needs. And no, I'll never find spare parts for it, but for the price I paid I don't care.
With the advent of lower prices on HVLP equipment, you might want to consider a pancake compressor for riveting and an HVLP unit for painting. You didn't mention air drills (which I HIGHLY recommend - my right-angle air drill has saved me more than once); for an all-purpose compressor I'd shop for a belt drive with a moderately sized tank. Life is full of compromises....there will be more than enough air for riveting but maybe slightly less than you would like for painting.
Just my $0.02 worth.....air compressor professionals can undoubtably add more knowledge than I.
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601xl N458XL (reserved)
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Darrell
Troutdale, Oregon
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: air compresser |
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When I ran a production Photographic lab we used a lot of compressed air. to keep the air dry and free of oil and silt Etc we used two oil separators ( similar to gascolators ) and two refrigerator dryers in series. Every eight hours the compressor tank was emptied from the bottom cock as per instructions that came with it. When we shut down for the night the cock was always left open.
Our problem was one of extreme humidity. I wanted to put a breather line for the compressor up two floors to a nice cool dry room but the boss voted me down. When I left they would still have to clean a full hundred feet of film because a little oil would still find its way on it and then get smudged all over the place.
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