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Speedy11(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:05 am Post subject: The Quest for Any Answer |
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Carlos,
As you can see from the response, the List doesn't react well to criticism. Both of us are likely to be banned from the list for daring to ask a question or for questioning the "teacher." This is the first "academic" situation I've encountered in which asking a question or questioning the teacher is considered unacceptable.
The "teacher" hasn't caught on to the idea that the "students" aren't visiting his "classroom" in order to learn. They are visiting the classroom in order to get answers to questions regarding the implementation of concepts and ideas from the textbook. I have yet to find a textbook that adequately explains its subject. The text always requires explanation and clarification. One would hope to get an answer (any answer) rather than a long diatribe saying nothing. The $time$ spent writing the worthless response could have been spent providing an answer to the proposed question. But then, no "learning" would occur.
Perhaps it is due to my ignorance, but your question seemed relatively simple and straight forward. You wanted to know if you can connect a second battery to an already existing ground wire from the main battery without causing a ground loop. From what I know of electrics, you can connect the second battery to the main battery ground wire without causing a ground loop.
Now, as Bob and others pointed out, there may be other problems caused by pursuing your method or there may be better ways to accomplish your desired results, but it seems as though the pure answer (one-word answer?) to your question is that your proposed connection will not cause a ground loop.
I wish you luck getting a better or expanded answer to your question, but it likely will not happen on this forum so long as our queries are considered "temper tantrums."
Good Luck in the New Year,
Stan Sutterfield
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| Quote: | Yeah, this group really sucks sometimes! There are folks who hang
around here just to use it as a personal Q&A Butler . . . the
answer is probably in the archives, in the book or even in dozens
of places out on the 'net. But to take the (gasp) $time$ to dig
it out and understand it . . . . It's obviously easier to ask
a question and then presume that what comes back is an acceptable
alternative to personal investigation and resolution. The degree
of acceptability is often assigned by perceptions "greatness"
ascribed to individuals who choose to answer.
The questions about the remote battery raised additional questions
that an astute designer would add to the mix of issues to be
resolved. My duty as teacher dictates that we explore and address
as many of those issues as we're capable of . . . do the best we
know how to do. It's too bad if this little quirk of mine (and
others here on the List) gets in the way of anyone's sensibilities
and/or quest for the one-word answer.
A simple-idea that has been around for millennia: "You
get what you pay for". One may interpret this to mean that
since nobody pays much in the way of cash for their participation,
disappointments for unrealized expectations should be taken in stride.
However, may I suggest that the rudimentary medium of exchange is
not dollars but minutes. A minute spent here on the List for any
purpose is lost forever and cannot be recovered or re-invested
anywhere else.
Minutes expended to pose questions for which one desires
one-word answers are high risk investments. For example, "will
grounding my battery in the tail cause a ground loop?" There is
no quick and short answer to that without further exploration . . .
Several times a year, somebody will send me a note extolling the
virtues of my book. They'll cite great understanding acquired
by their participation on the List. Then they toss in some
drawings that they claim are "slight adaptations" of figure
Z-whatever and they wish to have me look it over. Most even
offer to pay my exorbitant consulting fees for the service.
What I receive is often difficult to decipher. It seems to be
some new architecture with mystery features that are un-explained.
The language (schematic symbology) and organization
are poor it would take a lot of $time$ just to deduce the ideas
much less evaluate them for usefulness.
I get a sinking feeling when opening these packages. Somebody
has expended a lot of $time$ on the effort with an exceedingly
poor prospect for return on investment for either understanding
or improved system functionality. Adding to that expense is not
productive for me or the customer. I generally toss those packages
in the round file and try to forget them.
So, Carlos . . . how would you have me (or anyone else here on
the List) respond? Your questions for which you desired one-word
answers painted a rather startling image in the gray matter
of this ol' wire stringer.
I can do one of two things: (1) toss your ideas out to the List
for consideration not only for the technical but practical
merits or (2) toss them in the round file as "un-answerable
in the present form - please re-phrase and resubmit."
If I offered the one-word answers you sought and the system had
problems later, then you might be inclined to whack on that
gray-haired ol' f(at)#t in Wichita who told you it would be
okay. So if you're interested in deducing whether or not
your proposed architecture is consistent with the best we know
how to do, then more details are needed.
Carlos and Stan, I'm not trying to sell you a bill of goods.
If you find the $time$ spent here on the List to be
of poor investment, may I suggest you spend it elsewhere? The
same $time$ used to install some rivets or bend some metal might
be a much better deal in your situation. But know too that
$time$ spent in Mutual Gunching Society meetings does not
speak well of anyone's skill in allocation of resources.
I hope neither of you believes that your p(at)#$'n-and-m(at)#$#ing
about the "poor service" here on the List is going to effect
any changes. As I write these words, my two-year old
niece is throwing a rather noisy fit upstairs for some odd
reason or another. It matters not. Her $time$ and effort in
this endeavor will have an exceedingly poor return on investment.
The choice is yours gentlemen. How may we serve you? |
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rv8ch
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Location: Switzerland
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:46 am Post subject: The Quest for Any Answer |
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This discussion reminds me of the film "The Pink Panther Strikes Again"
with Peter Sellers.
Clouseau: Does your dog bite?
Hotel Clerk: No.
Clouseau: [bowing down to pet the dog] Nice doggie.
[Dog barks and bites Clouseau in the hand]
Clouseau: I thought you said your dog did not bite!
Hotel Clerk: That is not my dog.
Substitute your favorite question and one word answer.
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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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rdunhamtn(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: The Quest for Any Answer |
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Mickey,
Bulls eye!
Rodney
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| Quote: | From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch>
Reply-To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: The Quest for Any Answer
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:45:38 +0100
<mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch>
This discussion reminds me of the film "The Pink Panther Strikes Again"
with Peter Sellers.
Clouseau: Does your dog bite?
Hotel Clerk: No.
Clouseau: [bowing down to pet the dog] Nice doggie.
[Dog barks and bites Clouseau in the hand]
Clouseau: I thought you said your dog did not bite!
Hotel Clerk: That is not my dog.
Substitute your favorite question and one word answer.
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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:39 am Post subject: The Quest for Any Answer |
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In a message dated 12/30/2006 3:48:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch writes:
| Quote: | This discussion reminds me of the film "The Pink Panther Strikes Again"
with Peter Sellers.
Clouseau: Does your dog bite?
Hotel Clerk: No.
Clouseau: [bowing down to pet the dog] Nice doggie.
[Dog barks and bites Clouseau in the hand]
Clouseau: I thought you said your dog did not bite!
Hotel Clerk: That is not my dog.
Substitute your favorite question and one word answer.
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Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
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Good Morning Mickey,
I LOVE it!
I also like the list just the way it is.
Happy Skies and a Very Happy New Year to all.
PLEASE -- Do Not Archive!
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
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