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lopes.rv(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I am AG-pilot since 1977. Got my private license in 1974, commercial in 1976.  

After many years flying for money, now I want to fly for enjoy only 

sometimes. I am a beginner builder, have no prior experience.



do not archive    



Sorry for bad english.



Ricardo Volkweis Lopes  

Pelotas, RS South of Brazil

601XL TD  Just Started helped for friends

Em Domingo 31 Dezembro 2006 15:55, R.P. escreveu:

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		   WHAT DO ALL YOU PEOPLE

 DO FOR A LIVING?

dave.thompson(at)verizon.
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Dave & List  

   

I have wondered the same thing for a while. I am a Principal Technical Instructor for Global Knowledge/Nortel Training. I teach telephone technicians to install, maintain and program Nortel’s Meridian 1 / CS1000 business telephone systems. I started in the field in 1977 and have been teaching for the last 15 years. I love it!  

   

I am a handyman on the side for three apartment complexes and am a licensed electrical contractor.  In the 80’s my Dad, Brother & I built a Quickie. I also wired and installed a Revmaster VW conversion in a friend’s Q2. I haven’t flown for over 25 years and hope that soon my finances will allow me to start building a 601XL. With my new plans that Santa gave me I might start scratch building my horizontal stab soon.  

   

Dave Thompson  

dave.thompson(at)verizon.net (dave.thompson(at)verizon.net)  

Westminster, CA  

601XL rudder workshop, Corvair engine in parts and new plans from Santa  

   

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lwinger

Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 229
Location: Tustin, CA

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Happy New Year, Dave.  

  

 It sounds like you had a great Christmas if there was a set of 601XL plans under the tree.  If scratch building is in your future, let me know and I'll be glad to show you my shop...and completed tail section.  I think you would really enjoy scratch building, and you can't beat the cost...especially if you already have tools (as I know you do). 

  

 Were the plans a gift from your wife?  Is so, does that mean you have a green light to begin building?

  

 Larry



 

 On 1/1/07, Dave Thompson <dave.thompson(at)verizon.net (dave.thompson(at)verizon.net)> wrote: [quote]   

Dave & List 

  

I have wondered the same thing for a while. I am a Principal Technical Instructor for Global Knowledge/Nortel Training. I teach telephone technicians to install, maintain and program Nortel's Meridian 1 / CS1000 business telephone systems. I started in the field in 1977 and have been teaching for the last 15 years. I love it!  

  

I am a handyman on the side for three apartment complexes and am a licensed electrical contractor.  In the 80's my Dad, Brother & I built a Quickie. I also wired and installed a Revmaster VW conversion in a friend's Q2. I haven't flown for over 25 years and hope that soon my finances will allow me to start building a 601XL. With my new plans that Santa gave me I might start scratch building my horizontal stab soon.  

  

Dave Thompson 

dave.thompson(at)verizon.net  (dave.thompson(at)verizon.net) 

Westminster, CA  

601XL rudder workshop, Corvair engine in parts and new plans from Santa 

 

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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
Plans building 601XL/650 with Corvair
Installing fuel system
www.mykitlog.com/lwinger

minoxphotographer(at)yaho
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

OK, so I'm a few days behind on reading my digests....promise..I'll

catch up!



I'm a morning radio show host, been on the air for 31 years, 19 of them

at KOZY/KMFY Radio in Grand Rapids, Minnesota.  I'm also chief

engineer, maintaining 2 air and 2 production studios, as well as 5000

watt directional AM transmitter and 100,000 watt FM transmitter.   If

you feel like killing some time, visit the station website :

http://www.kozyradio.com

and follow the links for the Morning Mess and even the Curb Feelers (we

actually have an oldies band made up of station staff!)If you're REALLY

curious, we have podcasts available from nearly all the morning shows,

usually delayed by a day or two.



In my spare time I divy it up between airplane stuff, photography,

record collecting, computers (Mac only spoken here) and I'm a bit of an

ebay-aholic..mostly selling stuff to support my hobbies.  Oh..that, and

driving my wife nuts.



4 kids, 3 grand kids, and I'm only 48!



Tim in Bovey



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You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor!

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Larry Portouw

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 17
Location: Sierra Vista/Ft. Huachuca, AZ

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Great question. This thread has been facinating. 



I'm a retired (recently) US Army Colonel.  I've gone to work (2 kids in college) as a gov't contractor as a reaserch scientist for a non-profit technology company.  I did one year in the Infantry, and 25 as an Intelligence Officer. Last assignment was as the G2, Third Army / ARCENT.  Got my private in high school many years ago.  Own a 1954 PA-22 Tri-Pacer and am building a 601XL.  The kit is in storage while we build a house (and a shop) in SE Arizona.



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Larry Portouw
601XL Kit (H. Stab) (on hold)
PA-22 N8141C<< This project now taking all my time.
Fort Huachuca, AZ

Eddie G.

Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Posts: 15
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I graduated a physics (electro-optics) major some 18 years ago. Didn't find a job that paid enough to play with lasers and make holograms all day long, so ended up an electrical engineer (power systems), working for a small consulting company. Right now I am working around JPL's big dishes that talk to the little skateboards on Mars and to the space probes!



My expensive hobbies: I am an amateur photographer, private pilot, archer, hiker and mountain biker. And am working on lifting my second Jeep Cherokee for desert racing.



After taking the RV builder's class I came to the conclusion that Zenith is a lot easier and quieter to build in a metropolitan area!!



Eddie 

Living in a small condo in Los Angeles

601XL rudder in the box (looking for a place to build it!)



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marinegunner(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Larry,

 Have to fly the 600 down your way after it is flying and the fly off is complete - later this spring. What airport is closest to your new house?

-- 

Semper Fi,

Steven R. Hulland

CH 600 Taildragger

Amado, AZ 



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Larry Portouw

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 17
Location: Sierra Vista/Ft. Huachuca, AZ

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Steve,

   Closest Airport is Libby Army Airfield. It's joint use with the City of Sierra Vista. Three runways, longest is 12,001 feet (capable of taking the space shuttle).  Don't let the restricted airspace dissuade you-- listen to ATIS. R doesn't exist when the tower is closed. If open, call approach well out and they will clear you in. Best way is to come down Hwy 90 from the Benson area. There is a cutout in the airspace up to 7000' that you will see on the chart. Key reporting point is the "North-Y" shown on the chart north of the airfield. From you location, you could come east via Sonoita and under the R shelf (below 7000', only the closest in segment touches the ground).  You probably can't come direct because the western end of the airspace is where the Army does UAV training. If no UAVs are up, approach will clear you direct, just gotta ask. The circular restricted area SE of Sierra Vista is an aerostat.  Big cable underneath it to the ground and it is always active.

   Please come on down.  I'll send a phone number off-list.  I'd love to see your project. We've got a good EAA Chapter here. 



Larry

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[quote="marinegunner(at)gmail.com"]Larry,

 Have to fly the 600 down your way after it is flying and the fly off is complete - later this spring. What airport is closest to your new house?

-- 

Semper Fi,

Steven R. Hulland

CH 600 Taildragger

Amado, AZ 



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Larry Portouw
601XL Kit (H. Stab) (on hold)
PA-22 N8141C<< This project now taking all my time.
Fort Huachuca, AZ

marinegunner(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Larry,

 Thanks for the info. Tells me kinda where your house is. Have flown into Libby before - many years ago. Also Herford, Narco, Chocise, Douglas (both). The update on Libby's airspace is a big help. Fought wildland fires all over that area too! 

 Will post to net next time I plan on flying that way in the 600. Once it is flying.

 -- 

Semper Fi,

Steven R. Hulland

CH 600 Taildragger

Amado, AZ



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paulrod36(at)msn.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

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 After reading some of the resumes of people who actually know what all  those funny looking tools are for, I hesitate to even open my mouth any more.  (He who knows not, and knows not that he..............)  I'm retired Air  Force, having spent most of my career as an OSI agent, and finished up as Chief  of Intelligence in a SAC missile Wing. Did a bunch of industrial engineering,  security management, industrial safety, and finally hung it up at 64, wherupon I  got my not-very-great American novel ("THOU SHALT KILL") published, and haven't  done an honest day's work since. Unless you count playing with 601XL  parts.  But I did spend almost 25 years' worth of weekends and odd days  playing Grasshopper to an A&P-AI, who tried to teach me a little something  about aircraft mechanicking. Having fought the FAA through several special  issuances, I decided to sell the Skyhawk and go the LSA route. When I  grow up I want to be a 601XL pilot, if I live long enough to finish it.

  

 Paul Rodriguez

 601XL/Corvair

 Like the Flying Dutchman, doomed to forever work on the canopy

 DO NOT ARCHIVE

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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Ex-Det. Sgt Fontana PD, plumbing ,  heating A/C contractor, BA in Criminal Justice, CalState San Bernardino, Calif.  Teaching credential Chapman University, teacher-coach K-12th grades. ex-CAF  Col.( got to work on Corsair, TBM, AT-6, PT-19 etc) EAA Tech. Counselor, Young  Eagles Coord. Chapter #768. Built & fly HRII N561FS with  partner.

 Driving 7th Corvette (first one '57  3speed in 1963), current '92 Red LT1 coupe 6 speed. 19 years as "Voice of  the Raven's" (Bloomington Christian High School) until cancer took  voicebox. Great friends & family.  KABONG  Do Not  Archive

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paulhartl(at)cox.net
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Ok, since everyone else is doing it .....

  

 I have 82 hours on my Jab-powered HDS, which took 7 years to  complete.

  

 Education and what I do now: 3 degrees in Geology, the last a PhD from  Scripps Institution of Oceanography/UCSD in beautiful San Diego, CA.

 I now teach high school physics, astrophysics, and geology at a small  private school in Sun Valley, Idaho. Got the flying bug early from my  father, who was in 

 the Army Air Force in WWII as a gunner in a P-61 "Black Widow".   Luckily for me, his orders for combat were to be in Manila September 1st, 1945 -  so he

 got to train and ride around in great airplanes, but thanks to the A-bomb  never had to see combat.  I built models as a kid, flew and  built 049-powered 

 line-controlled planes as a teenager, learned a little flying in my  girlfriend's father's Supercub in high school, and then went into other things,  mostly classical music

 as an oboist, and into geology, eventually doing research on the record of  the earth's magnetic field as recorded in the geologic past by deep sea ocean  sediments.

 Interesting stuff, but I found that I preferred working with students as a  TA, and eventually came to the realization that that was where my best talents  lay.  Teaching 

 has proved to be a wonderful job; working with kids of a wide range of  abilities is especially challenging (especially when in the same class!), but  when things go 

 right - as they often do - I can't imagine a more rewarding  job.  

  

 Oh, first flight - I demanded (and got) for my 10th birthday present  a 20-minute ride -  in a yellow J-3 Cub. Definitely  unforgettable. 

  

 I got back into avaition through flight simulation in the mid 1990s, and  started making add-on aircraft for Microsoft's Flight Simulator, eventually  getting good enough 

 to do it commercially.  I had several late-90s packages of add-on  aircraft for Flight Sim, packaged on CDs and sold in retail outlets, including  "Pilot's Toybox", and 

 my magnum opus, "Flight Deck" - a set of 30 carrier-based USN and USMC  aircraft ranging from an F4F Wildcat to an F/A-18C, plus routines for landing  and taking

 off  from the new carriers that came with the package.  Flight  Deck is now in its 4th iteration, and has evolved into a wonderful add-on for  FS, published by Abacus Publishing 

 ( www.abacuspub.com) .  I had  to leave it after "Flight Deck II", largely because the work load of creating  increasingly detailed aircraft was not compatible with my teaching

 job. Plus, I was trying to finish that Zodiac in my garage!  I bought  the 601 from Zenith in 1998, after attending a weekend workshop in Mexico, MO -  and began pilot

 training at the same time.  Took my checkride and got my private pilot  license in 1999, but didn't manage to finish the Zodiac until 2005 - about  4 years later than I had planned!

 In the last year and a half  I've nearly doubled my total  hours from 100 to 182, all 82 in the Zodiac (the previous 100 being about  equally divided between a Cessna 172 and 

 a Piper Archer).  I flew the first flight on August 15, 2005 and had  40 hours on her by last February.  I made a couple of cross country trips  to Seattle last summer (about 4 hours 

 each way), and have learned the location, elevation, orientation and length  of just about every small airport in southern Idaho.  She's a fun plane to  fly, with fantastic visibilty,

 easy controls, and great climb - but a little slower in cruise than I would  like.  I drool over RV6 cruise numbers - especially for travel in these big  western states - but defintely 

 do not want to make another aircraft - although the matched-hole technology  would make it far easier the 2nd time around - I think.  

  

 I have made many iterations of the Zodiac for Flight Sim, the most recent  for FS2004 (aka FS9), which are available at my website, http://members.cox.net/paulhartl/ 

 (also available there are my T-38, F-16C and F-84G) -  and at Zenith's  site.  I haven't yet made a version for FSX (aka FS10), but will do so in  the next couple months, 

 once the new aircraft-making program from Abacus is up and  running.

  

 Wow, too much information, I'm sure - but we love to talk about ourselves,  don't we?

  

 Paul Hartl, N414PZ, 601 HDS, Jab 3300A

 82 hours, 96 landings - lots of fun!

 Hailey, Idaho

 http://members.cox.net/paulhartl/ 



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Gig Giacona

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1416
Location: El Dorado Arkansas USA

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

I have a question about your 601XL Tricycle Sim. When ever I pull it enough to stall the engine quits and will not restart.



 	  paulhartl(at)cox.net wrote: 	
		  Ok, since everyone else is doing it .....

  

   I have made many iterations of the Zodiac for Flight Sim, the most recent  for FS2004 (aka FS9), which are available at my website, http://members.cox.net/paulhartl/ 

 (also available there are my T-38, F-16C and F-84G) -  and at Zenith's  site.  I haven't yet made a version for FSX (aka FS10), but will do so in  the next couple months, 

 once the new aircraft-making program from Abacus is up and  running.

  

  http://members.cox.net/paulhartl/

_________________
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR

planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Hi Paul;

   

  will these work in X-plane?

   

  Thanks.

   

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Paul Hartl <paulhartl(at)cox.net> wrote:

  [quote]          Ok, since everyone else is doing it .....

   

  I have 82 hours on my Jab-powered HDS, which took 7 years to complete.

   

  Education and what I do now: 3 degrees in Geology, the last a PhD from Scripps Institution of Oceanography/UCSD in beautiful San Diego, CA.

  I now teach high school physics, astrophysics, and geology at a small private school in Sun Valley, Idaho. Got the flying bug early from my father, who was in 

  the Army Air Force in WWII as a gunner  in a P-61 "Black Widow".  Luckily for me, his orders for combat were to be in Manila September 1st, 1945 - so he

  got to train and ride around in great airplanes, but thanks to the A-bomb never had to see combat.  I built models as a kid, flew and built 049-powered 

  line-controlled planes as a teenager, learned a little flying in my girlfriend's father's Supercub in high school, and then went into other things, mostly classical music

  as an oboist, and into geology, eventually doing research on the record of the earth's magnetic field as recorded in the geologic past by deep sea ocean sediments.

  Interesting stuff, but I found that I preferred working with students as a TA, and eventually came to the realization that that was where my best talents lay.  Teaching 

  has proved to be a wonderful job; working with kids of a wide range of abilities is especially challenging (especially when in  the same class!), but when things go 

  right - as they often do - I can't imagine a more rewarding job.  

   

  Oh, first flight - I demanded (and got) for my 10th birthday present a 20-minute ride -  in a yellow J-3 Cub. Definitely unforgettable. 

   

  I got back into avaition through flight simulation in the mid 1990s, and started making add-on aircraft for Microsoft's Flight Simulator, eventually getting good enough 

  to do it commercially.  I had several late-90s packages of add-on aircraft for Flight Sim, packaged on CDs and sold in retail outlets, including "Pilot's Toybox", and 

  my magnum opus, "Flight Deck" - a set of 30 carrier-based USN and USMC aircraft ranging from an F4F Wildcat to an F/A-18C, plus routines for landing and taking

  off  from the new carriers that came with the package.  Flight Deck is now in its 4th  iteration, and has evolved into a wonderful add-on for FS, published by Abacus Publishing 

  ( www.abacuspub.com) .  I had to leave it after "Flight Deck II", largely because the work load of creating increasingly detailed aircraft was not compatible with my teaching

  job. Plus, I was trying to finish that Zodiac in my garage!  I bought the 601 from Zenith in 1998, after attending a weekend workshop in Mexico, MO - and began pilot

  training at the same time.  Took my checkride and got my private pilot license in 1999, but didn't manage to finish the Zodiac until 2005 - about 4 years later than I had planned!

  In the last year and a half  I've nearly doubled my total hours from 100 to 182, all 82 in the Zodiac (the previous 100 being about equally divided between a Cessna 172 and 

  a Piper Archer).  I flew the first flight on August 15, 2005  and had 40 hours on her by last February.  I made a couple of cross country trips to Seattle last summer (about 4 hours 

  each way), and have learned the location, elevation, orientation and length of just about every small airport in southern Idaho.  She's a fun plane to fly, with fantastic visibilty,

  easy controls, and great climb - but a little slower in cruise than I would like.  I drool over RV6 cruise numbers - especially for travel in these big western states - but defintely 

  do not want to make another aircraft - although the matched-hole technology would make it far easier the 2nd time around - I think.  

   

  I have made many iterations of the Zodiac for Flight Sim, the most recent for FS2004 (aka FS9), which are available at my website, http://members.cox.net/paulhartl/ 

  (also available there are my T-38, F-16C [quote][b]

DaveG601XL

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Posts: 351
Location: Cincinnati, Oh

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

My father took me to my first Oshkosh at age 12.  That was 31 Oshkosh's ago and I have not missed hardly any since, so I have been into experimental aircraft for some time now.  I finally got to the stage where I thought I was close enough to afford it.  I still can't afford it but I figured to get a head start on bankruptcy!  I got my license 20 years ago but have not flown as PIC for 18 years.  I beg rides when I can.   My father has a Pietenpol project that will never get done and my brother is getting close to completing a Rotec radial engined Pober Jr. Ace so building is certainly in the blood.  I got my A&P while in college and after deciding that there was no money in being a mechanic (airlines were not hiring much in 1985), I got on with a big jet motor company doing R&D work.  In my spare time aside from work, family and a 601XL build I am a volunteer Firefighter and EMT.



Good luck to all and safe flying!

_________________
David Gallagher
Cincinnati, OH area

pilot4pay

Joined: 01 Jan 2007
Posts: 171
Location: Louisville, KY

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Greeting to the group! I just signed up for the March tail workshop. I'm planning to build an 801.

I have over 400 hrs on my ticket, half in 172 and half in 182. Recently IFR certified. 

I'm a Navy Vet, (fire control tech gunnery, Spruance class destroyer DD985 out of SanDiego) and have worked in fields as diverse as image processing systems (early days, with hard drives as big as refrigerators), infra-red instrumentation, soil analysis TDR instrumentation, precision CNC equipment and machine tool automation manufactureing and robotics.

Currently working as an electrician at Ford Motor Companys' Wixom (soon to close) Assembly. Anyone looking for a reliable fast thinking electrical/electronic professional, send me a note, as I'm looking for an alternative to the automotive sector.

Interests include ameture astronomy (we have a Celestron Nexstar 5 Schmidt/Cass and an 8" Dobsonian), practical shootong sports/gunsmithing collecting, and computers. I also do some welding and light machining (Smithy Lathe/mill combination, Lincoln Mig welder).

Selling my certified T182T, and going the home build route. I love flying, and all that aviation entails. I also ride a '99 Honda VT1100t.

_________________
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078

"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin

larry(at)macsmachine.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Welcome CS,

The Zenith aircraft are great fun to build and nearly as much fun as 

flying them.

I scratch built a 13 inch light bucket and cut my own gears etc before 

the 601, so I appreciate

where you're at with this.  You're going to find this a great ride!



Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com



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 Greeting to the group! I just signed up for the March tail workshop. I'm planning to build an 801.

 I have over 400 hrs on my ticket, half in 172 and half in 182. Recently IFR certified. 

 I'm a Navy Vet, (fire control tech gunnery, Spruance class destroyer DD985 out of SanDiego) and have worked in fields as diverse as image processing systems (early days, with hard drives as big as refrigerators), infra-red instrumentation, soil analysis TDR instrumentation, precision CNC equipment and machine tool automation manufactureing and robotics.

 Currently working as an electrician at Ford Motor Companys' Wixom (soon to close) Assembly. Anyone looking for a reliable fast thinking electrical/electronic professional, send me a note, as I'm looking for an alternative to the automotive sector.

 Interests include ameture astronomy (we have a Celestron Nexstar 5 Schmidt/Cass and an 8" Dobsonian), practical shootong sports/gunsmithing collecting, and computers. I also do some welding and light machining (Smithy Lathe/mill combination, Lincoln Mig welder).

 Selling my certified T182T, and going the home build route. I love flying, and all that aviation entails. I also ride a '99 Honda VT1100t.



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 CS





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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: SORT OF AIRCRAFT RELATED

Paul-

     Did you marry the girlfriend  who's father had the Super Cub?

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 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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