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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Yak-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 01/01/07 Reply with quote

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Yak-List Digest Archive
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Total Messages Posted Mon 01/01/07: 4
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 07:20 PM - Interesting for spam can owners.
(cjpilot710(at)aol.com)
2. 09:10 PM - Re: Yak 52 For Sale (Mike Bell)
3. 11:35 PM - Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
4. 11:41 PM - Official Yak-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
(Matt Dralle)

________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 07:20:56 PM PST US
Subject: Interesting for spam can owners.
From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com
Thought this would be interesting to us in general.

Subject: Is Marv Nuss at work again
Facilities Won=99t Work On Airplanes 18 Years Or Older?
Aircraft owners in Kansas and parts of the Southwest are worried about
a pol
icy adopted by one and possibly two aircraft maintenance providers to
refuse
to work on aircraft that are 18 years or older. A customer of Kansas
City A
viation Center in Olathe, Kan., who asked not to be identified, told
AVweb t
hat officials of KCAC, a Piper dealer, told him they would no longer
lift a
wrench on anything beyond that age, including Piper products. He said
he was
told by company officials that it=99s an insurance issue. A phone mes
sage and an e-mail request for an interview left Friday with KCAC=99s
maintenance supervisor were not returned by our deadline, nor was an
e-mail
request for comment from Piper Aircraft. The time span coincides with
the li
ability limit that forms the crux of the General Aviation
Revitalization Act
of 1994, the legislation credited with revitalizing GA manufacturing.
In a
nutshell, the law immunizes aircraft manufacturers and the makers of
parts a
nd subcomponents from product liability lawsuits after the aircraft
reaches
the age of 18, or 18 years after the installation of the part. In an
analysi
s of the law that appeared in AVweb in 2001, lawyer Phillip J.
Kolczynski wr
ote that limiting the liability on one party (the manufacturer)
necessarily
shifts it to others, and among those are mechanics and the shops where
they
work.
A Trend In The Works?
After word spread on Web forums about the Kansas situation, at least
one oth
er instance of a similar policy was reported in a chain of FBOs that
operate
s in the Southwest. The firm, said to be Cutter Aviation on the Malibu
Mirag
e Owners and Pilots Association online message board, hasn=99t returne
d telephone or e-mail message requests for an interview. The Kansas
pilot we
did speak with told us his main fear is that the policy will spread
and cou
ld result in owners of older aircraft being unable to obtain service
or repa
irs while traveling. Meanwhile, Kevin Mead, the owner of a shop in
Hutchinso
n, Kan., says he doubts the insurance industry is driving the issue.
Mead
=99s shop specializes in Piper Malibus, including extensive modificati
ons, and he=99s heard nothing from his insurance company about an 18-y
ear limit. =9CThere=99s been no restriction on our insurance,
=9D he said. Mead said there are only a few insurance companies that c
over aircraft maintenance facilities, so he said it=99s likely that if
one had instituted an 18-year limit that others would at least be
talking a
bout it. He also noted that liability still remains a major concern in
the i
ndustry.
_______________________________________________________________________
_
ee AOL Mail and more.

________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 09:10:27 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Yak 52 For Sale
From: "Mike Bell" <yakflyr(at)comcast.net>
Sold the Yak to Rich Artwohl. It just made an uneventful little
cross-country from
California to Illinois. It will be based at Aurora. All you guys,
especially
in Chicagoland please welcome Rich to the group.

Mike
Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=84938#84938
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 11:35:42 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Official Yak-List Usage Guidelines
Dear Listers,

Please read over the Yak-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Yak-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:

http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html

Thank you,

Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules
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The purpose of the Yak-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
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[This is an automated posting.]

do not archive
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 11:41:24 PM PST US
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Official Yak-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
Dear Listers,

Please read over the Yak-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below.
The
complete Yak-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at
the
following URL:

http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Yak-List.FAQ.html

Thank you,

Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Yak-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules
therein.
Failure to use the Yak-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Yak-List Policy Statement

The purpose of the Yak-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not
submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.

- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send
it.

- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be
concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.

- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.

- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.

- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.

- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!

- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.

- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.

- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.

- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.

- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.

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