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david(at)mcgirt.net
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: Colored Smoke

Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color other

than white?  



David

ByronMFox(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: Colored Smoke

In a message dated 1/9/2007 7:32:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  david(at)mcgirt.net writes:

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		  Just    curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color    other

than white?  

	


 

 Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored  smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators using a  combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread about this some  time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz

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steve.fox(at)mac.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:50 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this question came up and found that most colored smoke was generated through a type of smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful to the aircraft.

POTUS

On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox(at)aol.com (ByronMFox(at)aol.com) wrote:

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		  Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a color otherthan white?  	




Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The colored smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke generators using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors. There was thread about this some time ago when I asked the same question. ...Blitz

fougapilot(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

Both the Snowbirds and the Nothernlights experimented with color. The 

simpler solution they found was to add a specific dye (don't know any more 

details) to the smoke oil. Unfortunately, this dye has a tendency to clog 

the nozzles to a point where it may need to be cleaned after each show. Both 

continued with white smoke.



D



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		  From: Stephen Fox <steve.fox(at)mac.com>

Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Colored Smoke

Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0500



Blitz is right here, I did a bit of research the last time this  question 

came up and found that most colored smoke was generated  through a type of 

smoke flare or chemical additives that are harmful  to the aircraft.



POTUS

On Jan 9, 2007, at 11:23 PM, ByronMFox(at)aol.com wrote:



>Just curious, is anyone aware of a smoke oil that will produce a  color 

>other

>than white?

>Sadly,it's my understanding that such as oil does not exist. The  colored 

>smoke you see performing aircraft use is created by smoke  generators 

>using a combination of chemicals to produce the colors.  There was thread 

>about this some time ago when I asked the same  question. ...Blitz

>

ashley.battles(at)aircapi
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

Julie Clark also uses it.

At the air show convention this year I heard that someone actually has

actual smoke that is colored for sale that comes out of the exhaust.  They

may have a patent on it.  I didn't pay much attention, so someone that was

there may know and I will make a few phone calls.  I have also heard that

whatever is used is not good for the airplane, but this guy may have

something I've never heard of or seen before.



But on a personal note...colored smoke is as dramatic as white and not as

easy to see.



ab



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ashley.battles(at)aircapi
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

I meant to say that colored smoke is not as dramatic.  It's usually very

thin and the color is not easy to see.



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david(at)mcgirt.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

Good points by all.. 

Ok, here is the next trick question..



WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial engines.. (

the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. )



ie..  good smoke, and the least mess on the belly..



David



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ashley.battles(at)aircapi
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:34 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

For the Stearman & T-6, Greg's favorite for his engines is Texaco Corvus 113

or 13.



If you can, try to make sure the barrels haven't been left outside for

amounts of time.  Some air shows will buy too many barrels and keep them for

the show next year...which is fine as long as they are sealed.  Once they

are open, if they aren't kept in a dry place, they will rust and get stuff

in it that will tear your engine up.  If you ever question it...try to find

something that can act as a screen to filter from the barrel into your

tank...or just MAKE them open up a brand new barrel.



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steve.fox(at)mac.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

I've really like the oil from these folks:

http://www.mdw-aviation.com/

On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:19 PM, David McGirt wrote:



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 Good points by all..

 Ok, here is the next trick question..



 WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial  

 engines.. (

 the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. )



 ie..  good smoke, and the least mess on the belly..



 David



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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

Try Super Dri aviation smoke oil. I have used it on Radio control models

with it being much less messy that the castro oil the is the fuel for the

R/C's. Their advertisement claims it to be the least messy. 

Guess your gonna make me put a smoke system in the 50 now huh?

Doc

[quote] [Original Message]

 From: David McGirt <david(at)mcgirt.net>

 To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>

 Date: 1/10/2007 11:33:00 AM

 Subject: RE: Colored Smoke



 



 Good points by all.. 

 Ok, here is the next trick question..



 WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial engines.. (

 the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. )



 ie..  good smoke, and the least mess on the belly..



 David



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drc(at)wscare.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: Colored Smoke

I use Canopus 13 by chevron - this is easy to find in bulk.  It does  

leave a residue on the plane but is as easy to clean up as the bottom  

of the plane and the sides from the "radial sling" after hard acro.   

I have tweaked the pump and I hear of guys tweaking the nozzels to  

get the best burn rate and cut down on the residue.



Attached is a link with a good article comparing Super-dri to  

Canopus.  I still stick with Canopus as I can get one or two barrels  

a year almost free.



http://www.iac.org/featured/Featured%20article%20-%20Vol.32,%20No.04% 

20April%202003.pdf



Herb

On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:19 AM, David McGirt wrote:



[quote] 



 Good points by all..

 Ok, here is the next trick question..



 WHAT current smoke oils are everyone's favorite, for a radial  

 engines.. (

 the jet guys don't care.. no mess.. )



 ie..  good smoke, and the least mess on the belly..



 David



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N13472(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: Colored Smoke

In a message dated 1/10/2007 9:37:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  ashley.battles(at)aircapitalins.com writes:

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		  they    will rust and get stuff

in it that will tear your engine up.  If you    ever question it...try to find

	


 

 How can oil injected into the exhaust pipe JUST before the outlet Tear your  eng up?   

 Tom Elliott  

CJ-6 NX63727

Sandy Valley  NV

3L2

702-723-1223



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steve.fox(at)mac.com
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: Colored Smoke

On Jan 10, 2007, at 6:23 PM, N13472(at)aol.com (N13472(at)aol.com) wrote:

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		  How can oil injected into the exhaust pipe JUST before the outlet Tear your eng up? 

	




Well It probably won't, but I get Ashley's point. I would prefer not having rust particles floating in my smoke oil clogging the line, maybe the pump and the injector.



POTUS

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ashley.battles(at)aircapi
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

Sorry...it won't tear it up.  I have  airplane conversations all day and they start to mesh together.  But it  makes a difference when your smoke tank doubles as a fuel tank

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david(at)mcgirt.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: Colored Smoke

Beat me to it, in my TW, the Aux Fuel tank is both the Smoke Oil tank and a Aux Fuel tank, so trash in the tank is a big deal..   

   

   

         

  

From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ashley Battles

 Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:55 AM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Colored Smoke  

  

     

Sorry...it won't tear it up.  I have airplane conversations all day and they start to mesh together.  But it makes a difference when your smoke tank doubles as a fuel tank  

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 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:24 PM

 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Colored Smoke      

In a message dated 1/10/2007 9:37:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ashley.battles(at)aircapitalins.com writes:  

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they will rust and get stuff

 in it that will tear your engine up.  If you ever question it...try to find  	
  

    

How can oil injected into the exhaust pipe JUST before the outlet Tear your eng up?     

   

    

Tom Elliott 

 CJ-6 NX63727

 Sandy Valley NV

 3L2

 702-723-1223  

  

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