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arthurww
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.
Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
to deburr those flange slots?
How have you done it?
Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
Regards
Arthur
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I learned from the folks at the Alexander Tech Center to do it with the
scotchbrite wheels. Not pretty but fast and effective. Don't know how
I would explain it though. I'm curious what others do too.
arthurww wrote:
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I do that to the outside... you get the inside?
On 1/9/07, MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)> wrote: [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: MauleDriver <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com (MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com)>
I learned from the folks at the Alexander Tech Center to do it with the
scotchbrite wheels. Not pretty but fast and effective. Don't know how
I would explain it though. I'm curious what others do too.
arthurww wrote:
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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Get one of those black emery boards with the cushioned backing at the
pharmacy. They work great. Each side has a different coarseness. The round
part of the flange can be down done with the deburring blade tool.
JOhn G.
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Subject: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:13:59 -0600
I drag scotch brite through folded in half
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>How have you done it?
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>Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
>Regards
>Arthur
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I am getting some emery cloth strip (p400) to try, but will have to work out
a good way to hold the parts because you need 2 hands for the strip.....
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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Try 600 silicon carbide sandpaper on a tongue depressor.
Kevin
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I was able to use a scotchbrite wheel from the outside of the slot to get
most of it, then I used the pads to finish it off.
Steve Stella
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:22 am Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I think we only hit the outside and touched up the inside with the pad -
it's been awhile.
Since then, I tried the various powered mini-wheels and pad holders but
it looks like John G's nail file pads are the ticket. You definitely
want a couple of those in the tool box.
Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
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I learned from the folks at the Alexander Tech Center to do it
with the
scotchbrite wheels. Not pretty but fast and effective. Don't
know how
I would explain it though. I'm curious what others do too.
arthurww wrote:
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> Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.
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> Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
> to deburr those flange slots?
> How have you done it?
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> Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
> Regards
> Arthur
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arthurww
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand If you would like them email me directly.
Thanks,
Mike
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On 1/11/07, arthurww <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>
I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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Hi Mike,
While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step. I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
I was on the Burr Away
On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
[quote]If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand If you would like them email me directly.
Thanks,
Mike
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On 1/11/07, arthurww <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote: Quote: | --> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>
I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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Checking into it. Stock they start at 3/8". These cutters were designed to use in a milling machine or a very rigid application. I know that builders have had mixed results, some swear by them, some swear at them. I am willing to try it to see if there is a better solution out there. For those that use them, do you still deburr the two sides that are between the parts (inside of the skin, outside of the substructure)?
Mike
On 1/12/07, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:[quote] Hi Mike,
While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com ) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step. I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
I was on the Burr Away
On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I Used the Cogsdill quite a bit and they were generally ok if you set the tension correctly. They were always a bit fragile though and changing the blade was a female dog. I don’t know if the single step version of the ezburr would be useful because you still need to take the pieces apart in order to get both sides but their standard deburr tool looks greatly improved and much beefier than the Cogsdill.
Michael Sausen
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Lauritsen - Work
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:33 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots
Checking into it. Stock they start at 3/8". These cutters were designed to use in a milling machine or a very rigid application. I know that builders have had mixed results, some swear by them, some swear at them. I am willing to try it to see if there is a better solution out there. For those that use them, do you still deburr the two sides that are between the parts (inside of the skin, outside of the substructure)?
Mike
On 1/12/07, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:
Hi Mike,
While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com ) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step. I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
I was on the Burr Away
On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand If you would like them email me directly.
Thanks,
Mike
--
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
515-432-6794
www.cleavelandtool.com
On 1/11/07, arthurww < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>
I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots |
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I use the Cogsdill and other than a couple broken blades, really like them. However, I'd sure like some definitive yea or nea on the use of scotch brite deburring-by-rubbing technique discussed awhile back, especially for those using reamers. For those using the Cogsdill, I set my air at 20 pounds and it seems to produce a just right rotation for the drill. I'm using a Sioux. If anyone has an opinion on the correct rotational speed, I'd like to know.
John Jessen (he who is about to head back home and a weekend of building)
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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:07 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots
I Used the Cogsdill quite a bit and they were generally ok if you set the tension correctly. They were always a bit fragile though and changing the blade was a female dog. I don’t know if the single step version of the ezburr would be useful because you still need to take the pieces apart in order to get both sides but their standard deburr tool looks greatly improved and much beefier than the Cogsdill.
Michael Sausen
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Lauritsen - Work
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:33 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots
Checking into it. Stock they start at 3/8". These cutters were designed to use in a milling machine or a very rigid application. I know that builders have had mixed results, some swear by them, some swear at them. I am willing to try it to see if there is a better solution out there. For those that use them, do you still deburr the two sides that are between the parts (inside of the skin, outside of the substructure)?
Mike
On 1/12/07, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:
Hi Mike,
While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com ) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step. I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
I was on the Burr Away
On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand If you would like them email me directly.
Thanks,
Mike
--
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
515-432-6794
www.cleavelandtool.com
On 1/11/07, arthurww < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>
I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur
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