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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.

Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
to deburr those flange slots?
How have you done it?

Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
Regards
Arthur


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I drag scotch brite through folded in half
On 1/9/07, arthurww <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>

Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.

Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
to deburr those flange slots?
How have you done it?

Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I learned from the folks at the Alexander Tech Center to do it with the
scotchbrite wheels. Not pretty but fast and effective. Don't know how
I would explain it though. I'm curious what others do too.

arthurww wrote:
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Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.

Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
to deburr those flange slots?
How have you done it?

Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I do that to the outside... you get the inside?

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I learned from the folks at the Alexander Tech Center to do it with the
scotchbrite wheels. Not pretty but fast and effective. Don't know how
I would explain it though. I'm curious what others do too.

arthurww wrote:
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Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.

Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
to deburr those flange slots?
How have you done it?

Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:04 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Get one of those black emery boards with the cushioned backing at the
pharmacy. They work great. Each side has a different coarseness. The round
part of the flange can be down done with the deburring blade tool.

JOhn G.
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I drag scotch brite through folded in half
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>Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.
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>Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
>to deburr those flange slots?
>How have you done it?
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>Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
>Regards
>Arthur
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I am getting some emery cloth strip (p400) to try, but will have to work out
a good way to hold the parts because you need 2 hands for the strip.....


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Lowes sells these mini scotchbrite wheels for Dremel tools and Sears has some cone shaped deburring bits made of similar material. They make quick work of doing the flanges..Hehe....glad I'm done with that task

Drive on for all you guys looking at that stinking pile of wing ribs!! Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Try 600 silicon carbide sandpaper on a tongue depressor.

Kevin
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Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.

Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
to deburr those flange slots?
How have you done it?

Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:44 am    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I was able to use a scotchbrite wheel from the outside of the slot to get
most of it, then I used the pads to finish it off.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I think we only hit the outside and touched up the inside with the pad -
it's been awhile.

Since then, I tried the various powered mini-wheels and pad holders but
it looks like John G's nail file pads are the ticket. You definitely
want a couple of those in the tool box.

Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
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I do that to the outside... you get the inside?

On 1/9/07, *MauleDriver* <MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com
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<MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com>>

I learned from the folks at the Alexander Tech Center to do it
with the
scotchbrite wheels. Not pretty but fast and effective. Don't
know how
I would explain it though. I'm curious what others do too.

arthurww wrote:
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<mailto:arthur(at)cftech.co.uk>>
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> Looked at the ribs for the VS last night.
>
> Alot of head scratching... how on earth am I supposed
> to deburr those flange slots?
> How have you done it?
>
> Can anyone point me towards that magic tool?
> Regards
> Arthur
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand Smile If you would like them email me directly.

Thanks,
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On 1/11/07, arthurww <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>

I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Hi Mike,
While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step.  I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.

Jeff Carpenter
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On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
[quote]If you guys want them, I can supply them.  I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value.  But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand Smile  If you would like them email me directly.

Thanks,
Mike
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" <arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>

I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Checking into it. Stock they start at 3/8". These cutters were designed to use in a milling machine or a very rigid application. I know that builders have had mixed results, some swear by them, some swear at them. I am willing to try it to see if there is a better solution out there. For those that use them, do you still deburr the two sides that are between the parts (inside of the skin, outside of the substructure)?

Mike

On 1/12/07, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:[quote] Hi Mike,

While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com ) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step. I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.
Jeff Carpenter
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On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:

Quote:
If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand Smile If you would like them email me directly.

Thanks,
Mike
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On 1/11/07, arthurww < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>

I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Ok Mike but they are cheap aren't they?
Especially if you live in the UK. Wink


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

Sorry, I though we were talking about a 3M product Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I Used the Cogsdill quite a bit and they were generally ok if you set the tension correctly. They were always a bit fragile though and changing the blade was a female dog. I don’t know if the single step version of the ezburr would be useful because you still need to take the pieces apart in order to get both sides but their standard deburr tool looks greatly improved and much beefier than the Cogsdill.

Michael Sausen

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Checking into it. Stock they start at 3/8". These cutters were designed to use in a milling machine or a very rigid application. I know that builders have had mixed results, some swear by them, some swear at them. I am willing to try it to see if there is a better solution out there. For those that use them, do you still deburr the two sides that are between the parts (inside of the skin, outside of the substructure)?

Mike
On 1/12/07, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:
Hi Mike,


While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com ) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step. I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.



Jeff Carpenter

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On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:




If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand Smile If you would like them email me directly.

Thanks,
Mike
--
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Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
515-432-6794
www.cleavelandtool.com



On 1/11/07, arthurww < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>

I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Derburring Rib Flange Slots Reply with quote

I use the Cogsdill and other than a couple broken blades, really like them. However, I'd sure like some definitive yea or nea on the use of scotch brite deburring-by-rubbing technique discussed awhile back, especially for those using reamers. For those using the Cogsdill, I set my air at 20 pounds and it seems to produce a just right rotation for the drill. I'm using a Sioux. If anyone has an opinion on the correct rotational speed, I'd like to know.

John Jessen (he who is about to head back home and a weekend of building)
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I Used the Cogsdill quite a bit and they were generally ok if you set the tension correctly. They were always a bit fragile though and changing the blade was a female dog. I don’t know if the single step version of the ezburr would be useful because you still need to take the pieces apart in order to get both sides but their standard deburr tool looks greatly improved and much beefier than the Cogsdill.

Michael Sausen

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Subject: Re: Re: Derburring Rib Flange Slots


Checking into it. Stock they start at 3/8". These cutters were designed to use in a milling machine or a very rigid application. I know that builders have had mixed results, some swear by them, some swear at them. I am willing to try it to see if there is a better solution out there. For those that use them, do you still deburr the two sides that are between the parts (inside of the skin, outside of the substructure)?

Mike
On 1/12/07, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:
Hi Mike,


While you're talking about stocking things... I was on the ezburr (www.ezburr.com ) website the other day and saw that they will custom manufacture bits that drill and deburr in one step. I didn't delve into it enough to determine the costs involved, but it seems to me that it's something that you could pursue and offer to the builders if the economies of scale work out.



Jeff Carpenter

40304



I was on the Burr Away
On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:


If you guys want them, I can supply them. I found that both those and the bristle disks will wear very quickly, thus I didn't think they were a good value. But I am happy to stock anything that is in demand Smile If you would like them email me directly.

Thanks,
Mike
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Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
515-432-6794
www.cleavelandtool.com

On 1/11/07, arthurww < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "arthurww" < arthur(at)cftech.co.uk (arthur(at)cftech.co.uk)>

I think I may have found that magic tool...
3M (of course) do a 3mm thick unitized cut & polish wheel.
Available in 3 diameters 38, 50 & 75mm.
Tried one tonight in a right angle die grinder... seemed to work very well
and quite quick.
Regards
Arthur

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