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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

Don,



You are right that it would not be good to go to full throttle after a cold 

start.  But I  think you are talking about the air start video ?   I think 

it fired but I would no go WOT if temps got below  140 F .



 That is a Blue head as well so the coolant remains warm around the engine 

longer than a grey head.  Engine was off for a  minute or two in the other 

clips and when I restarted over the runway I kept 4000 rpm till the temps 

stabilized  over 150.



Also temps today about 19F here and never got out flying yet. plugs at about 

120 hours now and still have not noticed any problems.  Annual due soon so I 

will most likely replace then plugs then.



Good advice on the cold seizures,  I have seen many guys with sleds as well 

cold seize them due to failure to warm them up properly.  You know once the 

temp gauge hits 140F some just go...  and that is a seizure waiting to 

happen. You should let the thermostat cycle a few times till the temps climb 

up to 150 or so before full power.



Dave

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

I'm curious to know how you keep your temps up to a 140-150 degree range 

during a "cold" winter decent.  I went to great length modifying my 

radiator/cowl to be able to do this.  Even on a 40 degree day I have to 

completely close the radiators off to keep the temps up during decent.



Don Smythe

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dave

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

Don,



For Referance I think the temps that day I did the dead sticking were 

alitle higher than 25 F



http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/climateData/hourlydata_e.html?timeframe=1&Prov=ON&StationID=4789&Year 07&Month=1&Day=5



9 C  = 48 F



But i do have my standard rad covered about 50%  right now and have for a 

month at least.

MY rad is 20 " x 4 " x 2 " thick.   It is mounted just a bout 4 inches ahead 

of the bungess and i have no heating or colling issues  at all. Over 120 

hours since mid July right now and over 250 for the 2006 year without 

heating issues.



Dave





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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

For those of us without mechanical rad shutters, what is best method for covering the rad to keep temps up for winter flying? Will duct tape work? What part(s) of the rad are best covered?

   

  It's around zero here this morning, might warm up to 20F during the day but the sun is out,  winds are calm and I'd love to put on ice fishing clothes and take the Fox up for a look-see.



dave <dave(at)cfisher.com> wrote:

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Don,



For Referance I think the temps that day I did the dead sticking were 

alitle higher than 25 F



http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/climateData/hourlydata_e.html?timeframe=1&Prov=ON&StationID=4789&Year 07&Month=1&Day=5



9 C = 48 F



But i do have my standard rad  covered about 50% right now and have for a 

month at least.

MY rad is 20 " x 4 " x 2 " thick. It is mounted just a bout 4 inches ahead 

of the bungess and i have no heating or colling issues at all. Over 120 

hours since mid July right now and over 250 for the 2006 year without 

heating issues.



Dave





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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

I have used duct tape to good effect over the years. trial and error will show how much to cover. We experience the same temperatures you are describing and I cover most of the radiator. the air cooling will likely be adequate.

  

 John Kerr

 Logan UT

  

 [quote]-------------- Original message -------------- 

From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949(at)yahoo.com> 

 For those of us without mechanical rad shutters, what is best method for covering the rad to keep temps up for winter flying? Will duct tape work? What part(s) of the rad are best covered?

  

 It's around zero here this morning, might warm up to 20F during the day but the sun is out,  winds are calm and I'd love to put on ice fishing clothes and take the Fox up for a look-see.



dave <dave(at)cfisher.com> wrote:

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Don,



For Referance I think the temps that day I did the dead sticking were 

alitle higher than 25 F



http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/climateData/hourlydata_e.html?timeframe=1&Prov=ON&StationID=4789&Year 07&Month=1&Day=5



9 C = 48 F



But i do have my standard rad covered about 50% right now and have for a 

month at least.

MY rad is 20 " x 4 " x 2 " thick. It is mounted just a bout 4 inches ahead 

of the bungess and i have no heating or colling issues at all. Over 120 

hours since mid July right now and over 250 for the 2006 year without 

heating issues.



Dave





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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:11 am Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

For a liquid cooled engine  -  Thermostat?

 Paul

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 At 06:38 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote:

 [quote]For those of us without mechanical rad shutters, what is best method for covering the rad to keep temps up for winter flying? Will duct tape work? What part(s) of the rad are best covered?

  

 It's around zero here this morning, might warm up to 20F during the day but the sun is out,  winds are calm and I'd love to put on ice fishing clothes and take the Fox up for a look-see.



 dave <dave(at)cfisher.com> wrote:

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  Don,



  For Referance I think the temps that day I did the dead sticking were 

  alitle higher than 25 F



   [url=http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/climateData/hourlydata_e.html?timeframe=1&Prov=ON&StationID=4789&Year 07&Month=1&Day=5] http://www.climate.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/climateData/hourlydata_e.html?timeframe=1&Prov=ON&StationID=4789&Year 07&Month=1&Day=5[/url] 



  9 C = 48 F



  But i do have my standard rad covered about 50% right now and have for a 

  month at least.

  MY rad is 20 " x 4 " x 2 " thick. It is mounted just a bout 4 inches ahead 

  of the bungess and i have no heating or colling issues at all. Over 120 

  hours since mid July right now and over 250 for the 2006 year without 

  heating issues.



 



  Dave



 



 

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dave

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

Same  here,  

 I findi t trial and error plus i used duct tape  and/or the Aliminum duct tape which does stick better. 

  

 I think someone had a set of louvers shown her a  while ago.  That would be the best bet imo. 

  

 Dave 

  

  

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: Re: tail wheel fun Don Temps

I guess the same thing happened to this thread, how did we get on cold engine seizers.

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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: tail wheel fun Don Temps

I just beg,borrow, buy or  otherwise abscond with some "Speed tape" from my friends at the helicopter  AMO... Sticks to anything good up to something like 300 mph.  Getting it  off ... now that's where the real fun is!

  

  

 

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