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waj(at)quik.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Hello group ,while reading the different sites I  see mention of several gussets in the rear fuselage .Have the plans been revised  to exclude these or am I not seeing them in my plans interpretations . Plans  Dated 03/06

 Wade Jones    South Texas 

601XL  plans building

Cont. 0200

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Wade-

     Probably apples and oranges, but  I'm right at that stage now. HDS plans call for gussets at the top of the fuse  sides, aligned with the L angle stiffeners.

 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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LHusky(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

My plans also do not call for the gussets.  I think with the .025  skin on the newer planes, they do not need the gussets like the .016 skins  did.  I have pictures of the QBK planes and they do not have the  gussets.  My plans are dated early in 06 also.  

  

 Larry Husky 

  

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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Wade,



I started building my XL in December of 2005 and there were no rear fuselage gussets called for in my plans. I think that the gussets were necessary when the fuselage skins were .016".  The side and bottom skins have been changed to .025", eliminating the need for gussets. 



Jay in Dallas

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601zv(at)ritternet.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

My plans of 04/06/04 have the gussets.

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Wade-

     From the list responses, looks  like you have to ask Zenith.

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 Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Bill, Wade,



You do NOT have to ask ZAC.  They have already spoken - through their drawings and photo guides.  According to this (current) information, an XL requires NO rear fuselage gussets!



Jay in Dallas

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"Bill Naumuk" <naumuk(at)alltel.net> wrote:



[quote]Wade-

    From the list responses, looks like you have to ask Zenith.

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Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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daveaustin2(at)can.rogers
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

As an old 601 owner, I found that there were cracks in the 16 thou side 

panels (both sides) that I noticed after 13 years.  Not only that, but water 

had gone in thru the crack on one side and the rivet had turned to alum 

oxide.  Even with the 25 thou panels, I still suggest that unless the 

vertical stiffener is locked to the upper longeron, vibration would do the 

same to the 25 thou panel.

JMLO

Dave Austin  601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII

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waj(at)quik.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Hello group ,thanks to all that replied to my  question .The gussets must have been excluded when the plans went to .025 skins  . Thanks

 Wade Jones    South Texas 

601XL plans building

Cont.  0200

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:30 am Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Jay-

    Like I said, apples and oranges. Very interesting, though. I wonder if I 

could retrofit .025 to my HDS in the event that I decide to replace my fuse 

side skins. All 3 of my potential engine choices are heavier than a 912/914, 

so W+B shouldn't be a factor. Might be worth investigating.

    Zodie- have you heard anything on this subject?

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Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Bill,



FWIW, I'm exorcising my "Get Out of Jail Free" card as a certifiable

experimenter and going with .025 skins on the fuse of my HDS.



Didn't someone recommend that awhile ago?



Gary Boothe 

Cool, CA 

601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, 

Tail done, wings done, working on c-section



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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Gary-

    I believe Larry Mac used .020 on the fuse sides and .025 on the outboard 

wings. I went with .025 on the outboards, and it's a lot easier to work 

with. .020 is more expensive than either .016 or .025.

    Are you exercising your get out of jail free card, or are you an 

exorcist? I hope ma doesn't know you've got Linda Blair tied up in the shop!

Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Bill,



My English teacher is rolling in her grave. Shame on me! But all this talk

of electronic headsets has my head spinning....



Gary Boothe 

Cool, CA 

601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, 

Tail done, wings done, working on c-section

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: Fuselage Gussets

Gary-

    Don't feel bad- ma just came home with a copy of Turbo Tax. Looks like 

the rest of this weekend is shot!

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Bill Naumuk

HDS Fuselage

Townville, Pa

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