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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Tim, put me on the list for a pair. Lemme know what I ow ya. I think
regular usps parcel would be a whole lot cheaper than priority.
Also, I don't see the reason not to make it 1 1/4" all the way out .....
except for some weight savings. Less machining means lower cost. Just
thinking out loud!!!
Linn Walters
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Tim Olson wrote:
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Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea (at) quantity 40 and
$24.50ea (at) quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you.
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to.
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
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Tim Olson
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Works for me Michael, if someone from OZ or NZ wants them, we'll
make it happen between Michael and I. And if anyone wants to
help with the UK, that's great too. Dont' want to exclude any
of the great people....just didn't need a lot of extra headache,
but this isn't too bad. The list already is well long enough
that we'll be doing it...so it's gonna be happening for sure
unless something goes screwy when I give the order to the
machinist.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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Tim, throw me on the list.
I would also like to add my services to this very nice offer. For our
brethren in OZ and NZ that may want to jump in on this, I will be
willing to act as a proxy for you on two conditions. First you have
been present and active on the list so I recognize you, and second I
reserve the right to limit the number of people I proxy this to.
This is only for Australia and New Zealand. If someone else wants to
handle the UK or another part of the world more power to them. Oceania
is enough for me. So if you are in one of those two locations and
want a set let me know and I will ask Tim to add them to my order. You
will pay whatever I pay + the cost of shipping to your part of the world
and you can pay me via paypal also.
Of course this is assuming Tim doesn't have a problem with it.
Michael Sausen
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Tim Olson
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2872
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Well, we're over 20 now (25 officially so far), so this thing looks
like it's gonna happen and be at least as good as we expected.
Price goes down with quantity, so this is great.
Mike Sausen has volunteered to help some overseas people, and
I had a request from Canada. What I can do worst case is to
ship one package to canada and let you re-ship them within
canada to the rest. May as well help as many people as we can.
Also, for those who've sent me emails saying they want them,
sometime within the next week shoot me an off-list email with
your Name, address, phone, and email so that I can not only
ship them, but can get a hold of you when it's time.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tim Olson wrote:
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Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_extensions
Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
2 quotes come back with costs significantly lower than what other people
were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
see if pricing will be any lower.
My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea (at) quantity 40 and
$24.50ea (at) quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
a small delay before they start making them.
You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
stupid, but I'm planning to write a check for well over $1000 to
cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
to paying for them.
What you'll get:
1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
to attach them.
Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
so much ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
my expectations...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
all complete to your door with the hardware.
One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
because after installing them I know they worked well for me, and
it'll keep you all from spending a fortune on one-offs from your
local machinist. In the spirit of "no up front money" that
we have today, you can send your payment either via paypal
or by check after you get them. I know everyone will pay up, because
we're all nice people and if you don't, I'll tell the list on you.
If you pay by paypal though, add a little to cover the fees that
they charge. Tips are not required, but will be accepted if you're
just so happy after getting them that you really want to.
If the price for any reason looks like it'll be over $60, I will not
proceed without contacting everyone who got on the list first.
Email me at my email address if you want to get on the list.
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cloudvalley(at)comcast.ne Guest
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Hello Tim,
Put us on the list too for those extensions!
Brian and Ruth Preston
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[quote]-------------- Original message --------------
From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
Well, we're over 20 now (25 officially so far), so this thing looks
like it's gonna happen and be at least as good as we expected.
Price goes down with quantity, so this is great.
Mike Sausen has volunteered to help some overseas people, and
I had a request from Canada. What I can do worst case is to
ship one package to canada and let you re-ship them within
canada to the rest. May as well help as many people as we can.
Also, for those who've sent me emails saying they want them,
sometime within the next week shoot me an off-list email with
your Name, address, phone, and email so that I can not only
ship them, but can get a hold of you when it's time.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
>
> Good news, everyone...
>
> Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
> drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
> the install posted here:
>
>
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/index.html#Installation_of_new_ex
tensions
>
>
> Now that I know they work, I'm going to do something stupid and
> since some people found high machining costs, I'm going to coordinate
> a group order for extensions that look like these. I had at least
> 2 quotes come back with costs significa ntly l ower than what other people
> were saying. My earlier drawing might actually be more expensive to
> make than the final product drawing too. I'll have to re-quote it to
> see if pricing will be any lower.
>
> My present quote that I'd go on was: $17.75ea (at) quantity 40 and
> $24.50ea (at) quantity 20. (20 pairs and 10 pairs respectively)
>
> Now, what I'm going to do it this: If you want these extensions
> for your plane, I'm only planning to have one run made up, so get them
> now. Let me know by Wednesday night, and Thursday a.m. I'll order
> them from the machining company and get the hardware on it's
> way to me. They need to get the aluminum stock, so there will be
> a small delay before they start making them.
> You do not need to send payment right away...Yes, I know, that's
> stupid, but I'm pla nning to write a check for well over $1000 to
> cover the production, but only if the buyers are willing to commit
> to paying for them.
>
> What you'll get:
> 1 PAIR of Axle entensions, all drilled and tapped, 3-3/8" long so
> they don't require the large flat washer. They should directly
> replace the original part. You'll also get (3) AN5-6A bolts,
> so you have one as a spare, for bolting them to the axle nut.
> You'll also get (3) MS24693C298 screws for the outer ends, that
> will be 1/4" longer than original so they don't back out and fall
> off as easily (mine almost came out...use loctite!) And, I'm
> going to send you (3) MS24665-292 cotter pins, and (3)
> MS24665-362 cotter pins, so you have all of the hardware required
> to attach them.
>
> Your job: Drill your existing holes on the axle nuts out to 5/16"
> and deburr (I deburred mine today because I miss all the deburring
> so much ) Then assemble the AN5 bolt/washer to the extension and
> torque. Then, use a #40 drill through the guide hole and drill
> out the hole and the bolt to #40. Pin them together with the small
> cotter pins, install the axle nuts and pin with the large pins.
> Then secure the fairing with the 1/4" stainless machine screw.
>
> Since this is something I'm not doing for profit, I'm going to
> make it easy on myself. They'll all be picked up at the same
> time, and I'll throw them all into USPS Priority mail at the
> same time. I'll split the costs of everything evenly, and round
> any costs up to the next highest dollar. When all is said and
> done, I'll tell you if the total with shipping is any higher than
> my expe ctatio ns...which would be between $45 and $55 per pair,
> all complete to your door with the hardware.
>
> One exception: Since this isn't for-profit in any way, I'm going
> to make it easy on myself and limit it to the US continental 48
> states only so I can use USPS Priority mail.
>
> Again, I'll only be doing this group order one time, so if you want
> them, now's the time. After this order, if for some reason I'm
> crazy enough to do it again, I'd add on extra cost for the time, and
> it might be harder to get a good list of people together to keep
> the price down. If for some reason we can't get 10 people for
> this order, I won't bother, but my gut feeling is that we'll probably
> easily make the 20 pair (quantity 40) level. I just want to do this
> because after installing them I know they worked well for me , and gt; _- [quote][b]
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Tim Olson
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Wonderful, you're #51!
Tim
Roger Standley wrote:
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Hi Tim,
I will take a set.
Roger
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Tim Olson
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2872
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Wow, what an overwhelming response! We hit 53 people already
tonight (106 parts) so the machining quote should be
nice and low. It's going to be a busy time packaging and
shipping them though. I saved a few feet of bubblewrap
from something I got this week in the mail, but I think
I'm going to need quite a bit more than that.
Looks like I'll have to start scrounging around work for
the next few days and have them save me all that they can.
Thanks everyone for the kind words. I'll keep the list
open until 8am Thursday a.m. and then I'll call in the
total to be ordered. It's almost a shame to see someone
not building these for a product, with the response
we got. It sure does indicate that perhaps they should
think about doing something better at the factory though,
if this many people want to jump on something better that
quick. But you know how that kind of thing goes over.
Just keep sending your info if you haven't.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Tim,
Put me down for a set.
Steve
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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Thanks Tim. Mauledriver will take one.
Bill "finally closed up the trim tabs and riveting the tailcone" Watson
Tim Olson wrote:
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Good news, everyone...
Today I installed the axle extensions that my friend made from my
drawing and they worked out perfectly. I have some photos from
the install posted here:
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. |
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I don't even have the emp kit yet and I'm in!!
Robb.....192RL reserved
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