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7suds(at)Chartermi.net
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: Fuel System Questions=gasolator

All,

Earlier in the thread on fuel systems there was mention of gasolators, I was 

wondering what people are running on thier 912's. I have a 5 with duel wing 

tanks and the header behind the seat. Currently do not have a gascolator but 

was looking to add one.

Any thoughts?



Lloyd



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Fox5flyer
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: Fuel System Questions=gasolator

Good question Lloyd.  The setup you have sounds like pretty much of a stock

S5 or most other Kitfoxes.  If the header tank has a belly drain (as

designed) then it is the lowest spot in the system and shouldn't need a

gascolator.   You might want to install a quality fuel filter on the engine

side of firewall as a last point of defense, but that's a personal thing.

Deke

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 All,

 Earlier in the thread on fuel systems there was mention of gasolators, I

was
	


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		   wondering what people are running on thier 912's. I have a 5 with duel

wing
	


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		   tanks and the header behind the seat. Currently do not have a gascolator

but
	


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		   was looking to add one.

 Any thoughts?



 Lloyd

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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: Fuel System Questions=gasolator

The gascolator allows you two things.  First there is a small strainer in it

to catch a few chunks that may have gotten past your finger strainers.

Second the gascolator is usually positioned at the lowest point in a fuel

system this means as a plane is sitting on the tarmac any water will

eventually sink to that location where you can drain it.  Maintenance isn't

too much... Open the gascolator every so many hours and make sure the

strainers are clear.  It is nice to put a bucket under the gascolator as you

disassemble it,  That will catch the couple of ounces of gas and any "o"

rings etc that may drop when you remove the screen.



Gascolators are pretty good practice for lockwiring too.  They are usually

in pretty tight spots, there are worse and you may not get the lockwiring

done as neat as you might like the first try.



Noel



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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: Fuel System Questions=gasolator

Lloyd,

No need for a gascolator just a filter which is all a gascolator provides. The drain in the bottom of you header behind the seat has a huge volume to catch any water and it is at the lowest point in the fuel system. In fact the latest fuel system diagram from Skystar makes no mention of a gascolator. I think they deleted the gascolator when they went to the header with the large sump.



So, if you have the above mentioned header then the gascolator is just extra un-needed hardware assuming you have a final filter.

Compare a typical automotive gas filter cost with an ACS gascolator cost and see why Skystar changed the design.

Regards, Paul

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All,

Earlier in the thread on fuel systems there was mention of gasolators, I was wondering what people are running on thier 912's. I have a 5 with duel wing tanks and the header behind the seat. Currently do not have a gascolator but was looking to add one.

Any thoughts?



Lloyd

 

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: Fuel System Questions=gasolator

All,

Thanks for all the replys. Another question, I was under the impression that 

a gascolator's filtering screen was such that it would allow fuel to pass 

but not water. I found this artical that seems to elude to that thought.

Thoughts?

Lloyd

http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html



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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Fuel System Questions=gasolator

The gascolator will pass whatever is on top.  As long

as there isn't enough water to fill it, you should get

fuel.  But more water than that and it will pass

water.  Of course there is some stiring going on, so

something less than a full gascolator cup will start

passing some water.



Since my gascolator drain blew out in flight 2 years

ago on my S-5, I think it is more a danger than a help

to me.



The good news is that my engine kept running at cruise

power, but higher EGT, so the fuel to the engine was

maintained, even with a quarter inch hole in the

gascolator and a fuel flow of way over 10 gph, half at

least blowing overboard.



I intend to take all the components of the fuel system

not necessary and put them on the cabin side of the

firewall.  Opposite of my origional feelings on this

one.  Bigger fire potential on the front side.



I will take out the gascolator and use the header

tank.  The header tank will probably have a front

feed, rear drain for emptying the plane quickly, and a

bottom quick drain for fuel samples only.  I keep

destroying my quick drain O rings using them to drain.



I need one final filter up front somewhere, but

haven't decided where yet. The intent is to have all

flow going up to the engine after the header so there

are no air or water traps enroute.  The header will

trap water and sediment and any air should flow up to

the main tanks or be bled out of the engine, once fuel

is added.



Having the gascolater where mine was made more top and

bottom points on my fuel system than I liked, and

added a source of fuel leakage 4 inches from my

exhaust.  Also it made another place for vapor lock to

occur.  Cleaning this all up will make me feel safer,

at least.



Kurt S.  S-5



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		   All,

 Thanks for all the replys. Another question, I was

 under the impression that 

 a gascolator's filtering screen was such that it

 would allow fuel to pass 

 but not water. I found this artical that seems to

 elude to that thought.

 Thoughts?

 Lloyd

 http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html


	




 

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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: Fuel System Questions=gasolator

Kurt & Deke,

Thank You for your replys, I have decided not to install a gascolator (which 

is how the system was when I recieved it), keeping the fuel system as clean 

and simple as possible.



Lloyd

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