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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: All Electric RV ? Reply with quote

All Electric RV which way to go?

I have and all electric panel, so my question is do I install a

A. Second Alternator (12 Amp B&C) using existing battery
B. Backup battery only with a switch
C. Second Alternator and a Backup Battery

I am already have been using an Ex-Bus for 4 years, (which has a specific 5 amp circuit for charging a aux battery). My battery is in the tail due to weight and balance. Back up plan also includes a TruTrac ADI with backup battery/GPS, hand held Garmin 195, and a hand held I-Com hand held radio.  I do fly IFR.

So where I need opinions & experiances on which method do I use ?
Who can tell me where to get some wiring diagrams (other than Bob Knuckols) and the parts ?

Dane Sheahen
N838RV RV8a

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: All Electric RV ? Reply with quote

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Since you fly IFR I suspect that dual alternator and battery is your best bet.

If you only have one battery and two alternators would you continue flying
if the battery died? Likewise, if you have two batteries and the one
alternator
dies would you continue flying or land?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: All Electric RV ? Reply with quote

There are as many opinions on this as there are ideas.
My 2 cents after owning 2 all electric RV’s for over 2k hours.
  1. Batteries don’t fail. More than 1 is not necessary
  2. Alternators do fail. I have lost ~6, including one IMC. Never needed 2 though.
  3. I have plenty of juice in my battery to get me to my destination or some other suitable location
  4. Your far more likely to have a device fail than “the system”
  5. too complex means too much trouble, complexity, weight, & headache
  6. If you cant find what your looking for with all of Bobs diagrams, Im not sure where you would. You can easily make subtle changes to any one of those to suit your needs.
  7. Best to write down all your failure modes that are in the realm of possibility and see if your system supports them, including multiples of them.


Its gong to be very hard to provide you advice without knowing your mission objectives. I fly IFR is really not enough. Do you do mostly punch throughs and let downs? Do you generally NEED to get somewhere regardless of weather? Are you more cautious and conservative, or more liberal on your decisions? Are your minimums minimums, or well above that? Have you actually killed your system in flight, fired up the battery backup, and tried to fly to a suitable location under the hood? Have you considered all your likely failure modes and worked em through?

Just some random thoughts for you.
Mike






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All Electric RV which way to go?



I have and all electric panel, so my question is do I install a



A. Second Alternator (12 Amp B&C) using existing battery

B. Backup battery only with a switch

C. Second Alternator and a Backup Battery



I am already have been using an Ex-Bus for 4 years, (which has a specific 5 amp circuit for charging a aux battery). My battery is in the tail due to weight and balance. Back up plan also includes a TruTrac ADI with backup battery/GPS, hand held Garmin 195, and a hand held I-Com hand held radio. I do fly IFR.



So where I need opinions & experiances on which method do I use ?

Who can tell me where to get some wiring diagrams (other than Bob Knuckols) and the parts ?



Dane Sheahen

N838RV RV8a


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: All Electric RV ? Reply with quote

None of the above (or below as the case may be). How much truly "in the solid soup" IFR flying do you really plan to do? How much soup time have you logged in the past 1-2 years? How many of those flights was a MUST scenario and not a MIGHT scenario (where you HAD to be somewhere). Be honest.

Unless your engine depends on electrons flowing for the fan to keep turning (i.e. dual electronic ignition without backup such as LASAR or P-Mag), I'm a big proponent of KISS. And that means one battery, one HIGH QUALITY alternator, done deal.

Hey, you mentioned the word "opinions" so that's where I'm coming from here.

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