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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Full Auto Reply with quote

I know I read it somewhere on the web, a fully auto Stby Alt system. All
you have to do is reduce loads until the light goes out, and continue
uninterrupted until your planned stop fuel stop. Anyone remember reading
something like that? I'm ready for that step in my RV10, and don't want
to continue with a overly complicated system. KISS is my aim!
Sam Marlow
Wiring RV10


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:34 am    Post subject: Full Auto Reply with quote

Good Afternoon Sam,
That is the way the certified B&C Standby Alternator in My V35B Bonanza works. I love it!

Happy Skies,

Old Bob
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Bob Siegfried
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In a message dated 2/20/2007 1:10:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, sam(at)fr8dog.net writes:
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I know I read it somewhere on the web, a fully auto Stby Alt system. All
you have to do is reduce loads until the light goes out, and continue
uninterrupted until your planned stop fuel stop. Anyone remember reading
something like that? I'm ready for that step in my RV10, and don't want
to continue with a overly complicated system. KISS is my aim!
Sam Marlow
Wiring RV10






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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Full Auto Reply with quote

At 02:07 PM 2/20/2007 -0500, you wrote:

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I know I read it somewhere on the web, a fully auto Stby Alt system. All
you have to do is reduce loads until the light goes out, and continue
uninterrupted until your planned stop fuel stop. Anyone remember reading
something like that? I'm ready for that step in my RV10, and don't want to
continue with a overly complicated system. KISS is my aim!

It's the B&C SD-20 with details at
http://bandc.biz
and you can check out Figure Z-12 at
http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev11/AppZ_R11J.pdf
for a suggested architecture to go with it.

Bob . . .

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( EVERY day . . . )
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Full Auto Reply with quote

Sam, Take a look at www.verticalpower.com . It will load shed and switch alternators (nearly) automatically, and meet your KISS principles for wiring. Won't be available until August though.

Marc


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Full Auto Reply with quote

Yea, that's a great idea, but I can't until Summer, I hope to fly on the next few weeks!
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Sam, Take a look at www.verticalpower.com . It will load shed and switch alternators (nearly) automatically, and meet your KISS principles for wiring. Won't be available until August though.

Marc

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Full Auto Reply with quote

I checked out that figure, and all the others as well, but It requires tripping the battery switch and a 1-3 E-Bus Alternate feed switch. It's not full auto switching. Isn't there something simpler?

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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam(at)fr8dog.net> (sam(at)fr8dog.net)

I know I read it somewhere on the web, a fully auto Stby Alt system. All you have to do is reduce loads until the light goes out, and continue uninterrupted until your planned stop fuel stop. Anyone remember reading something like that? I'm ready for that step in my RV10, and don't want to continue with a overly complicated system. KISS is my aim!

It's the B&C SD-20 with details at
http://bandc.biz
and you can check out Figure Z-12 at
http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev11/AppZ_R11J.pdf
for a suggested architecture to go with it.

Bob . . .

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( EVERY day . . . )
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Full Auto Reply with quote

Sam, there is... www.verticalpower.com

Bret Smith
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:06 am    Post subject: Full Auto Reply with quote

At 11:03 AM 2/26/2007 -0500, you wrote:

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I checked out that figure, and all the others as well, but It requires
tripping the battery switch and a 1-3 E-Bus Alternate feed switch. It's
not full auto switching. Isn't there something simpler?

What is the design goal? What is the investment in $time$
needed to meet those goals? What is your perceived return
on investment for having spent the $time$?

The term "full auto" doesn't paint a lucid picture of
the operation desired nor does it help us understand the
goal.

What kind of failure are you contemplating will benefit
from the $time$ spent to achieve totally hands-off
mitigation? When you have an alternator failure, how
do you expect the outcome of flight to be significantly
altered because you've added hardware to do it
automatically as opposed to the repositioning of couple
of switches in response to a low voltage warning light?

If KISS is your true goal, the start with any activities
that reduce parts count, weight, wiring complexity and
cost of ownership. The Z-figures are purposely devoid
of much in the way of automation because I can deduce
no additional features that offer real return on investment.

Bob . . .

Bob . . .

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