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frank-margie(at)worldnet.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

REF:

 From: Bob Noyer <[url=]a58r(at)verizon.net[/url]>

Subject: Re:  Re: Primer versus Choke?

Re: safety hose clamps. I've used  soft copper instead of  

steel...won't cut fuel line, and easier to use  on smaller lines. Fire  

away, gridleak.

regards,

Bob  N.    FireFly 070 Old Kolb

 -----------------------------------------

  

 Bob,

     Please tell us more about your  copper clamps.  Do you mean copper wire vs steel, or an Ideal-type screw  clamp, or?  Where do you get them?

  

     Ref the other current posts on  the subject;  I've had safety wire (per Richard Pike) cut the tubing.   I probably overtightened it, but just knowing it could cut into the fuel line  has scared me off.  I agree tie wraps don't seal all 360 degrees----but I  sometimes still use them where the nipple length and diameter are probably  sufficient to hold the tube without any clamp, like on the carbs.  I've  used small tie wraps on the primer nipples, for 1/8 fuel line----not totally  comfortable with this, but space between the 2 nipples limits what will fit  (especially with the "out" hose being rubber automotive hose).   

  

     I've gone to rubber hose for  most of my installation.  Still use clear Tygothane from carbs to pulse  pump, and from carb primer ports to where they're T'd into the 1/8 rubber  hose----this allows viewing the fuel flow to confirm the electronic pump and the  primer are working.  And have 1/8 clear fuel line from the T in the main  fuel line, to the in port on the primer, due to space limitations.

  

     I'm using Corbin clamps on most  connections, rubber and Tygothane.  Use small, narrow, Ideal-type screw  clamps in a few places----particularly on the pulse pump in port;  the  nipple there is small dia and short, and an air leak there could really slow  down the pulse pump action  (or leak fuel onto a hot engine now that I have  the electronic pump).  Also use screw clamps on the pulse line.  I've  learned the hard way that screw clamps can be overtightened too,  and I  don't like to use them on plastic nipples, as on fuel filters or T & Y  fittings.

  

     This subject has seen quite a  bit of discussion B4, but I'm still looking for better answers in an area  that I think bears close watching.

  

 Frank Clyma

 Orange Park, FL

  

  

 



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d-m-hague(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

I don't like the tywraps for holding tubing; they leave one square corner 

unclamped and thus prone to leakage.  Worm screw clamps have the same 

problem in smaller size, which is why you never see them on new cars.  You 

*can* buy tywraps made for round tubing:

( http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/113/gfx/large/6705kp2l.gif ) but I've 

never used them, preferring to use safety wire.



For tubing I've been using either the yellow Tygon tubing (made for fuel 

and oil) or the blue stuff Aircraft Spruce sells.  Over on the Quicksilver 

list people don't like the blue stuff but could never give a good reason 

why, only saying, "it sucks".



				-Dana

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Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I.

ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

frank & margie wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   *REF*:

 From: Bob Noyer <a58r(at)verizon.net>

 Subject: Re: Re: Primer versus Choke?

 Re: safety hose clamps. I've used soft copper instead of 

 steel...won't cut fuel line, and easier to use on smaller lines. Fire 

 away, gridleak.

 regards,

 Bob N.    FireFly 070 Old Kolb

 -----------------------------------------

 Bob,

     Please tell us more about your copper clamps.  Do you mean copper 

 wire vs steel, or an Ideal-type screw clamp, or?  Where do you get them?

     Ref the other current posts on the subject;  I've had safety wire 

 (per Richard Pike) cut the tubing.  I probably overtightened it, but 

 just knowing it could cut into the fuel line has scared me off.  I agree 

 tie wraps don't seal all 360 degrees----but I sometimes still use them 

 where the nipple length and diameter are probably sufficient to hold the 

 tube without any clamp, like on the carbs.  I've used small tie wraps on 

 the primer nipples, for 1/8 fuel line----not totally comfortable with 

 this, but space between the 2 nipples limits what will fit (especially 

 with the "out" hose being rubber automotive hose). 

     I've gone to rubber hose for most of my installation.  Still use 

 clear Tygothane from carbs to pulse pump, and from carb primer ports to 

 where they're T'd into the 1/8 rubber hose----this allows viewing the 

 fuel flow to confirm the electronic pump and the primer are working.  

 And have 1/8 clear fuel line from the T in the main fuel line, to the in 

 port on the primer, due to space limitations.

     I'm using Corbin clamps on most connections, rubber and Tygothane.  

 Use small, narrow, Ideal-type screw clamps in a few 

 places----particularly on the pulse pump in port;  the nipple there is 

 small dia and short, and an air leak there could really slow down the 

 pulse pump action  (or leak fuel onto a hot engine now that I have the 

 electronic pump).  Also use screw clamps on the pulse line.  I've 

 learned the hard way that screw clamps can be overtightened too,  and I 

 don't like to use them on plastic nipples, as on fuel filters or T & Y 

 fittings.

     This subject has seen quite a bit of discussion B4, but I'm 

 still looking for better answers in an area that I think bears close 

 watching.

 Frank Clyma

 Orange Park, FL

There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a 

ring of heat shrink tubing. I think that it's made by Gates. A friend 

has been flying with it on his radiator hoses (alternative engine 

homebuilt) for years.

I'll try to find a link if you want it.

Charlie

frank-margie(at)worldnet.
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

REF;

  

 There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a  

ring of heat shrink tubing. I think that it's made by Gates. A friend  

has been flying with it on his radiator hoses (alternative engine  

homebuilt) for years.



I'll try to find a link if you want  it.



Charlie

-------------------------------------------

  

 I'd like to have the link!

  

 Thanks,

 Frank Clyma

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possums(at)bellsouth.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

At 05:58 PM 3/2/2007, you wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  REF;

  

 There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a 

 ring of heat shrink tubing. 



 I'll try to find a link if you want it.

 Charlie

 -------------------------------------------

 

 I'd like to have the link! 	


 ME too...really! Used all the others, wire, clamps, straps, snapclamps, etc. 



 Speaking of logos...

 then again, maybe not.



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

Possum:



Been a "possum" for some years now.



When am I going to get my secret pass word and hand shake?



Been trying to be patient, but about waited long enough.  What if I 

meet another possum and don't have my stuff together?



john "possum" h

hauck's holler, alabama

mkIII



DO NOT ARCHIVE

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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

beauford(at)tampabay.rr.c
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

Gents:

Password...?    Handshake...?   Have always heard that true "Possums" can 

meet in the middle of a 40 acre field, at midnight, on a moonless night, and 

instantly establish one another's bonafides by merely "sniffing" one 

another....(Not further specified...)  If you two "Possums" should set out 

to test this hypothesis, by all means call me first...   Would be well worth 

the drive up from Florida to observe...



By the way... what's this got to do with hose clamps, anyway...? 

...no... don't answer that.......



Beauford

Brandon, FL

FF#076

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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

If they were brains ,she would be a  genius...

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purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

I'll go with you and half the gas...JoeN101HD  P S L FLA.

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Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.c
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

Best looking hose clamps I’ve seen.might want to archive that. The jacket is not bad ether   

Uncle craig  

Do not archive   

         

  

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of possums

 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 6:20 PM

 To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Hose Clamps  

  

   

At 05:58 PM 3/2/2007, you wrote:

 

   

REF;

  

 There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a 

 ring of heat shrink tubing. 

 

 I'll try to find a link if you want it.

 Charlie

 -------------------------------------------

 

 I'd like to have the link!  



 ME too...really! Used all the others, wire, clamps, straps, snapclamps, etc. 

 

 Speaking of logos...

 then again, maybe not.

 

 do not archive  

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ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
Guest

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

frank & margie wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   *REF;*

 ** 

 There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a

 ring of heat shrink tubing. I think that it's made by Gates. A friend

 has been flying with it on his radiator hoses (alternative engine

 homebuilt) for years.

 

 I'll try to find a link if you want it.

 

 Charlie

 -------------------------------------------

  

 I'd like to have the link!

  

 Thanks,

 Frank Clyma

 

Remember, this is for coolant hose. Smallest dia listed is 1/2".
	


Go to

http://www.mcmaster.com/



& type 'hose clamp' in the search engine, then click 'coolant hose 

clamps'. It should jump to the plastic shrink to fit hose clamps.



For just a little reality check, there's now a hose for something like 

250 psi that doesn't require a clamp; just uses the retention of the 

barbs to hold it on the connector.



Charlie

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: Hose Clamps

Have always heard that true "Possums" can

| meet in the middle of a 40 acre field, at midnight, on a moonless 

night, and

| instantly establish one another's bonafides by merely "sniffing" one

| another....(Not further specified...)

|

| Beauford



Beauford:



You're talking about ground bound possums.  We is flying possums.  Don 

't do no sniffing.  We have a secret hand shake and pass word. 

Well,..........I believe I am supposed to have them.  Right now, all I 

have is my airplane and possum shirt.  And I am proud of both.



john h

mkIII

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John Hauck
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hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

purplemoon99(at)bellsouth
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: Hose Clamps

Is it possible to be a member of the "possums" without going through 

sniffing thing?,if so would being a"possum" make it possible to get closer 

look at those"  Brains"   Joe N101HD

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Steve Boetto

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 365

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: Hose Clamps

Has someone posted a source for these magic clamps or are the just part of  the possum joke?

  

 steve

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ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
Guest

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: Hose Clamps

N27SB(at)aol.com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Has someone posted a source for these magic clamps or are the just part 

 of the possum joke?

  

 steve


	


yes:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Remember, this is for coolant hose. Smallest dia listed is 1/2".

 Go to

 http://www.mcmaster.com/

 

 & type 'hose clamp' in the search engine, then click 'coolant hose clamps'. It should jump to the plastic shrink to fit hose clamps.

 

 For just a little reality check, there's now a hose for something like 250 psi that doesn't require a clamp; just uses the retention of the barbs to hold it on the connector.

 

 Charlie

Paul Petty

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 226
Location: Mississippi

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Hose Clamps

I sell and used these on my Kolbra/912. Nice and clean looking.



http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=927&location_id=546

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Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
912 UL 70" warp

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