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szakreski(at)shaw.ca
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 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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For those of you familiar with the West coast and Alaska…
It looks like I’m ferrying an aircraft for one of our members from Seattle to Anchorage sometime in the next few months. The safe (but long) route for me to take is inland, up the Alaska Highway. Has anyone flown the coastal route? Am I likely to get 3 clear days to fly this route in late April and May? I bet it will be pretty.
SteveZ
Calgary
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av8rps(at)tznet.com
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:31 am Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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Steve,
There's a guy that wrote a two part article for Water Flying magazine about flying his Lake Amphibian to alaska using the route you are considering. It is titled "Journey on the inside passage", but the subtitle is "Not for novices, nor the faint of heart". Knowing this guy has done this trip for years in his lake might offer you some tremendous advice. His name is Richard Pellerin. He is a FAA medical examiner (previously a Green Beret and Navy seal fwiw), and has an occuapational website at www.faamed.com where I'm sure you could contact him.
I love his quote on the site; "Just remember, if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space".
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
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Tom Jones
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Flight to Alaska |
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Steve, take the Alcan. I hope someone with actual experience chimes in. My opinion is the only safe way to fly the coast route is in a float plane. I have only been there by ground, but would never ever consider any route to fly except to follow the highway. I have a book called 'Your Alaska Flight Plan" by Don and Julia Downie. It describes all the routes. I'll donate it to you to help you decide and plan your adventure. let me know if you want it and we'll find the quickest way to get it to you.
Tom Jones, Ellensburg, WA
[quote="szakreski(at)shaw.ca"]For those of you familiar with the West coast and Alaska…
It looks like I’m ferrying an aircraft for one of our members from Seattle to Anchorage sometime in the next few months. The safe (but long) route for me to take is inland, up the Alaska Highway. Has anyone flown the coastal route? Am I likely to get 3 clear days to fly this route in late April and May? I bet it will be pretty.
SteveZ
Calgary
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wannafly
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:26 am Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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Steve you may want to talk to Joe Harrington...he is a member of the
Lethbridge COPA group. He flew his Beaver ultralight to the artic circle
last year and has a photo journal of it on the lethbridge copa web site. He
would be able to give some very good and current info on making that flight.
good flying mic
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To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Flight to Alaska
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 09:06:20 -0800
Steve, take the Alcan. I hope someone with actual experience chimes in.
My opinion is the only safe way to fly the coast route is in a float plane.
I have only been there by ground, but would never ever consider any route
to fly except to follow the highway. I have a book called 'Your Alaska
Flight Plan" by Don and Julia Downie. It describes all the routes. I'll
donate it to you to help you decide and plan your adventure. let me know
if you want it and we'll find the quickest way to get it to you.
Tom Jones, Ellensburg, WA
[quote="szakreski(at)shaw.ca"]For those of you familiar with the West coast
and Alaska…
It looks like I’m ferrying an aircraft for one of our members from
Seattle to Anchorage sometime in the next few months. The safe (but long)
route for me to take is inland, up the Alaska Highway. Has anyone flown
the coastal route? Am I likely to get 3 clear days to fly this route in
late April and May? I bet it will be pretty.
SteveZ
Calgary
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Guy Buchanan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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Steve,
I found a link I remembered; a flight of three Kitfoxes and a 172 to Alaska from the states. There you may be able to find contacts and additional information:
http://sportflight.com/alaska2005/
At 05:21 AM 3/3/2007, you wrote:
| Quote: | For those of you familiar with the West coast and Alaska…
It looks like I’m ferrying an aircraft for one of our members from Seattle to Anchorage sometime in the next few months. The safe (but long) route for me to take is inland, up the Alaska Highway. Has anyone flown the coastal route? Am I likely to get 3 clear days to fly this route in late April and May? I bet it will be pretty.
SteveZ
Calgary
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mclayton(at)rochester.rr.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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Steve,
Let me chime in also. My Chief Pilot has spent over 12 years in Alaska, although he has been in the lower 48 for the last several years. He told me that the only way to fly the is to follow the Alcan. There are NO landing fields, and you have to land on the highway. The services are minimal...basically just fuel. He always kept the road in sight, so that if you have a problem you have a place to land. Flying over water should only be done on floats, as there are NO landing strips.
On Mar 3, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Paul Seehafer wrote:
[quote]Steve,
There's a guy that wrote a two part article for Water Flying magazine about flying his Lake Amphibian to alaska using the route you are considering. It is titled "Journey on the inside passage", but the subtitle is "Not for novices, nor the faint of heart". Knowing this guy has done this trip for years in his lake might offer you some tremendous advice. His name is Richard Pellerin. He is a FAA medical examiner (previously a Green Beret and Navy seal fwiw), and has an occuapational website at www.faamed.com where I'm sure you could contact him.
I love his quote on the site; "Just remember, if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space".
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
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temco(at)telusplanet.net
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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Mike
Your statement “there are no landing fields” is absolutely untrue. The Alaska Highway route is very well developed with all sorts of facilities available for small aircraft to make the trip from Alberta to Alaska. Just ask John King, Stan Specht and a host of other fellows who have made the trip. I have spent 15 years in the lat 60’s and early 70’s installing air to ground, ILS, VOR/DME at all the sites up and down the Highway. I really get peeved when some one just makes a statement without finding out the facts. You pilot probably flew commercial from Anchorage to Seattle and never saw the Highway.
Ted
DO NOT ARCHIVE
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: March 4, 2007 7:02 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Flight to Alaska
Steve,
Let me chime in also. My Chief Pilot has spent over 12 years in Alaska, although he has been in the lower 48 for the last several years. He told me that the only way to fly the is to follow the Alcan. There are NO landing fields, and you have to land on the highway. The services are minimal...basically just fuel. He always kept the road in sight, so that if you have a problem you have a place to land. Flying over water should only be done on floats, as there are NO landing strips.
On Mar 3, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Paul Seehafer wrote:
Steve,
There's a guy that wrote a two part article for Water Flying magazine about flying his Lake Amphibian to alaska using the route you are considering. It is titled "Journey on the inside passage", but the subtitle is "Not for novices, nor the faint of heart". Knowing this guy has done this trip for years in his lake might offer you some tremendous advice. His name is Richard Pellerin. He is a FAA medical examiner (previously a Green Beret and Navy seal fwiw), and has an occuapational website at www.faamed.com where I'm sure you could contact him.
I love his quote on the site; "Just remember, if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space".
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
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From: Steve Zakreski (szakreski(at)shaw.ca)
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 7:21 AM
Subject: Flight to Alaska
For those of you familiar with the West coast and Alaska…
It looks like I’m ferrying an aircraft for one of our members from Seattle to Anchorage sometime in the next few months. The safe (but long) route for me to take is inland, up the Alaska Highway. Has anyone flown the coastal route? Am I likely to get 3 clear days to fly this route in late April and May? I bet it will be pretty.
SteveZ
Calgary
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Flight to Alaska |
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My opinion, do not try to shortcut, go the safest rounte, on this one, fly IFR , I FLY ROADS. And take a GPS. If possible, fly with another people, preferably in another aircraft next to you, the more the safer. Maybe you can plan a multiple aircraft flight up to Alaska, or just meet kitfoxes along your route and fly short flights on the way up with them.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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If you read my email carefully, I said that landing "on the highway" is what is required. I am sure that at least for many miles there are no facilities available anywhere else. There are facilities to accommodate light aircraft ( I believe I said that as well), just nothing anywhere else, unless you are close to civilization.
Mike
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Mike
Your statement “there are no landing fields” is absolutely untrue. The Alaska Highway route is very well developed with all sorts of facilities available for small aircraft to make the trip from Alberta to Alaska. Just ask John King, Stan Specht and a host of other fellows who have made the trip. I have spent 15 years in the lat 60’s and early 70’s installing air to ground, ILS, VOR/DME at all the sites up and down the Highway. I really get peeved when some one just makes a statement without finding out the facts. You pilot probably flew commercial from Anchorage to Seattle and never saw the Highway.
Ted
DO NOT ARCHIVE
From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of MikeSent: March 4, 2007 7:02 AMTo: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: Re: Flight to Alaska
Steve,
Let me chime in also. My Chief Pilot has spent over 12 years in Alaska, although he has been in the lower 48 for the last several years. He told me that the only way to fly the is to follow the Alcan. There are NO landing fields, and you have to land on the highway. The services are minimal...basically just fuel. He always kept the road in sight, so that if you have a problem you have a place to land. Flying over water should only be done on floats, as there are NO landing strips.
On Mar 3, 2007, at 10:30 AM, Paul Seehafer wrote:
Steve,
There's a guy that wrote a two part article for Water Flying magazine about flying his Lake Amphibian to alaska using the route you are considering. It is titled "Journey on the inside passage", but the subtitle is "Not for novices, nor the faint of heart". Knowing this guy has done this trip for years in his lake might offer you some tremendous advice. His name is Richard Pellerin. He is a FAA medical examiner (previously a Green Beret and Navy seal fwiw), and has an occuapational website at www.faamed.com where I'm sure you could contact him.
I love his quote on the site; "Just remember, if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space".
Paul Seehafer
Central Wisconsin
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kitfoxfugit(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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I have been planning to go up from central California
around June 12 and back around July 5, allowing 2
weeks to go up, fly around parts of the state and get
back plus 1 week for weather. I have been looking
locally for pilots with 100 mph planes to go along but
so far have found no one due to the distance, time,
and expense. Anyone on the list who is interested
contact me off list at kitfoxfugit(at)yahoo.com. Plans
need to be made now to have everything ready by June,
such as passports, required survival kits, Canadian
flight guides, a place to carry baggage, etc.
To debrun26(at)juno.com, my son may be interested in
taking your Kitfox up if he is available in June. He
is commercial/instrument/multi rated but is building
taildragger time in a Champ right now while trying to
get hired in AK and finishing up comittments in CA.
Whoever takes yours up or wants to come, we are
planning to stop at Lynden WA after the 1st day out.
That might be a good place for those who may want to
come along to rondezvous. The plan is to more or less
follow the Stewart Cassiar Highway ie. Cassiar Highway
37 up depending upon winds and weather. Assuming you
are in Juneau, flying over the coast range to Juneau
would be a question, but I don't know why it couldn't
be brought back down from Whitehorse to Skagway, then
to Juneau, assuming that is where you want it.
John Allen, Kitfox IV Speedster 912UL
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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Dear Steve,
No you are not likely to get three clear days. Inland you can fly the highway or the trench. I'd fly inland and wait for some favorable winds aloft. It is possible pickup a 20-30 knot tailwind.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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There is always the highway itself if push comes to shove.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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mclayton(at)rochester.rr.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: Flight to Alaska |
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That's exactly what our Chief pilot said. BTW he was flying Cessna 185's, Beavers, and so on, along with Twin Otters and BT67's. He has 17000 hours as PIC. He also flew up and down the Alcan at least several times a year. Most recently within the last four years. I tend to think he knows what he is talking about.
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