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fougapilot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Flat on my back with minimum airspeed

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:47 am Post subject: Attitude indicator

Guys,



Two fold question here;



How accurate is your attitude indicator whilst doing aerobatic?



It seems mine doesn't like it anymore. When I start the bird it works just fine (both cockpit) and after a few loops, it looses it and never recovers. I think it is simply getting towards the end of it's life.



Anyone know where the gyro is located on an R model? The manual clearly specifies where it is on the C model, but the R has a tendency to move things a bit here and there... plus I don't remember anything underneath the rear seat.



Cheers.



Dan

L29delfin(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:06 am Post subject: Attitude indicator

Center floor back cockpit

On June 20, 2016 9:52:43 PM "fougapilot" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Guys,



 Two fold question here;



 How accurate is your attitude indicator whilst doing aerobatic?



 It seems mine doesn't like it anymore. When I start the bird it works just 

 fine (both cockpit) and after a few loops, it looses it and never recovers. 

 I think it is simply getting towards the end of it's life.



 Anyone know where the gyro is located on an R model? The manual clearly 

 specifies where it is on the C model, but the R has a tendency to move 

 things a bit here and there... plus I don't remember anything underneath 

 the rear seat.



 Cheers.



 Dan





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457309#457309

fougapilot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Flat on my back with minimum airspeed

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Attitude indicator

 	  L29delfin(at)yahoo.com wrote: 	
		  Center floor back cockpit 	




Even on the R model?



In a previous life, there was a big camera there and a big hole in the floor... This is why the Hyd accumulators and brake valves were moved to the nose section. Plus I do not remember ever seeing the Gyro there when the floor was open.



Thank for the help.



D

Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
Posts: 355

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:05 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

Bob

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		   On Jun 20, 2016, at 13:16, fougapilot <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 L29delfin(at)yahoo.com wrote:

> Center floor back cockpit

 

 

 Even on the R model?

 

 There was a big camera there and a hole in the floor in a previous life. 

 

 That is why the Hyd accumulators were moved to the nose section and I do not remember ever seeing the Gyro there when the floor was open.

 

 Thank for the help.

 

 D

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457311#457311

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Dawg

L29delfin(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:18 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

The original location for the attitude gyro is above the rear floor in a 

dome. If rear controls have been added it's most likely moved to rear side

On June 20, 2016 10:03:28 PM Delfindriver <L29delfin(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Center floor back cockpit



 On June 20, 2016 9:52:43 PM "fougapilot" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:



> 

>

> Guys,

>

> Two fold question here;

>

> How accurate is your attitude indicator whilst doing aerobatic?

>

> It seems mine doesn't like it anymore. When I start the bird it works just 

> fine (both cockpit) and after a few loops, it looses it and never recovers. 

> I think it is simply getting towards the end of it's life.

>

> Anyone know where the gyro is located on an R model? The manual clearly 

> specifies where it is on the C model, but the R has a tendency to move 

> things a bit here and there... plus I don't remember anything underneath 

> the rear seat.

>

> Cheers.

>

> Dan

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

>

> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457309#457309

>

>

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fougapilot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Flat on my back with minimum airspeed

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Attitude indicator

Interesting!



We do have dual controls, so it has been moved...



I guess I will simply follow the cables and see where the rabbit hole leads...



Cheers,



D

schwartzcompany(at)att.ne
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:28 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

Most likely rear cockpit under side panels. Its  a round grey gyro case. And it's bigBob

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		    On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 0:24, fougapilot

<fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

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Interesting!



We do have dual controls, so it has been moved...



I guess I will simply follow the cables and see where the rabbit hole leads...



Cheers,



D





Read this topic online here:



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delfin29(at)me.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:52 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

Grey or black. I think there are two (one for attitude, other for angle)Jean 	  Quote: 	
		  Le 20 juin 2016 à 21:28, Robert Schwartz <schwartzcompany(at)att.net (schwartzcompany(at)att.net)> a écrit :

Most likely rear cockpit under side panels. Its  a round grey gyro case. And it's bigBobSent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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		  On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 0:24, fougapilot

<fougapilot(at)hotmail.com (fougapilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

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schwartzcompany(at)att.ne
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:57 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

Turn and bank is between front and back seat on right side under panel. �The big attitude gyro could be anywhere. It's not a sanctioned relocation

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

 

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		    On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 0:52, delfin29(at)me.com

<delfin29(at)me.com> wrote:

   Grey or black. I think there are two (one for attitude, other for angle)Jean 	  Quote: 	
		  Le 20 juin 2016 à 21:28, Robert Schwartz <[url=javascript:return]schwartzcompany(at)att.net[/url]> a écrit :

Most likely rear cockpit under side panels. Its  a round grey gyro case. And it's bigBobSent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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		  On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 0:24, fougapilot

<[url=javascript:return]fougapilot(at)hotmail.com[/url]> wrote:

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Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
Posts: 355

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:44 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

It has to be on the sidewall. probably the right side in the rear cockpit.



(WAG)

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		   On Jun 20, 2016, at 15:24, fougapilot <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Interesting!

 

 We do have dual controls, so it has been moved...

 

 I guess I will simply follow the cables and see where the rabbit hole leads...

 

 Cheers,

 

 D

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457317#457317

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Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
Posts: 355

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:45 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

one. gray.



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		  On Jun 20, 2016, at 15:52, delfin29(at)me.com (delfin29(at)me.com) wrote:

Grey or black. I think there are two (one for attitude, other for angle)Jean 	  Quote: 	
		  Le 20 juin 2016 à 21:28, Robert Schwartz <schwartzcompany(at)att.net (schwartzcompany(at)att.net)> a écrit :

Most likely rear cockpit under side panels. Its  a round grey gyro case. And it's bigBobSent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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		  On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 0:24, fougapilot

<fougapilot(at)hotmail.com (fougapilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

--> L29-List message posted by: "fougapilot" <http://forums.matronics"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L29-List" target="_blank">http://www.=                    &n--> =

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fougapilot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Flat on my back with minimum airspeed

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Attitude indicator

There is a gray vertical cylinder on the RH side between both cockpit, I would think that this is the gyro for the DG.



I will Open the back cockpit next time I am at the airport and look for the Attitude gyro.



D

Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
Posts: 355

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:31 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

It's about the size of a watermelon. It has a glass bubble site on top. U could Jack it up and level the airplane, then center the bubble. However, 35 years of Acro may be taking its toll. The "R" models didn't do much maneuvering, but they are still aging. Sometimes I walk with a 5 degree crab. I'm  old.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.



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fougapilot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Flat on my back with minimum airspeed

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:15 am Post subject: Re: Attitude indicator

Roger that!



Are you sure it is only 5 degrees of crab? It looked more like ten last time I saw you  But then again we had just landed, so it might have been my flying...

Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
Posts: 355

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:50 am Post subject: Attitude indicator

Somedays…

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		   On Jun 21, 2016, at 04:15, fougapilot <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Roger that!

 

 Are you sure it is only 5 degrees of crab? It looked more like ten last time I saw you 

 

 

 

 

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jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:08 am Post subject: Attitude indicator

For what its worth, i replaced mine with an MGL voyager EFIS.  Took a bunch of stuff out.  Works well, but also tumbles after extended aerobatics.



Sent from my iPad



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		   On 21 Jun 2016, at 03:16, fougapilot <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 There is a gray vertical cylinder on the RH side between both cockpit, I would think that this is the gyro for the DG.

 

 I will Open the back cockpit next time I am at the airport and look for the Attitude gyro.

 

 D

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457332#457332

fougapilot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Flat on my back with minimum airspeed

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: Attitude indicator

So, I finally have time to look into this, here is what I found;



Is this the gyro for the Attitude indicator?

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Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:37 pm Post subject: Attitude indicator

yes



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		   On Jan 2, 2017, at 15:35, fougapilot <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 So, I finally have time to look into this, here is what I found;

 

 Is this the gyro for the Attitude indicator?

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464623#464623

 

 

 

 

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 http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3080205_125.jpg

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fougapilot

Joined: 20 Jul 2007
Posts: 88
Location: Flat on my back with minimum airspeed

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Attitude indicator

The picture is not from my airplane, but from a guy who has one for sale. I would like to test mine before I go out and change it.



It there a specific method to remove it?

Any particulars to pay attention to?

Any specific Voo-Doo dance I must do to not jinks it?



Thanks



D

Dawg

Joined: 19 May 2013
Posts: 355

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:51 am Post subject: Attitude indicator

Since u r a small guy just getting it out will be fun.

Remove rear seat, which requires removing rear canopy....



Sent from my iPad



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		   On Jan 3, 2017, at 08:52, fougapilot <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 The picture is not from my airplane, but from a guy who has one for sale. I would like to test mine before I go out and change it.

 

 It there a specific method to remove it?

 Any particulars to pay attention to?

 Any specific Voo-Doo dance I must do to not jinks it?

 

 Thanks

 

 D

 

 

 

 

 Read this topic online here:

 

 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464630#464630

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