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 Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: 680FP |
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It seems like about 800 miles is the breakeven point for a 200 knot private plane. I could beat the airlines on every flight between johannesburg and durban in south africa in a twin comander. The killer for the airline was the time to and from the airport and the wait time to board and deplane, just for a 45 minute flight.The cost to self-fly was more but considering that the frustration was incalculable, I would saddle up Charlie every time i could.
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Moe Mills <moe-rosspistons(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
Good point Keith, and also as of late my Commander is more dependable. On my last flight from FMN to LAX the plane (Great Lakes) was eight hours late leaving FMN, by the time we got to Prescott, AZ the kid that was to do the de-ice had gone home so we got to LAX a little over 12 hours late. I could have driven quicker (800) miles. On the flight before that from LAX to FMN the old 1900 had fuel transfer pump problems so we were told in Prescott that there would be a 24 hour delay, since that was when the next plane going to FMN would be there (once a day service). Fortunately, I had struck up a conversation with the girl across the isle and we rented a car and drove all the way to Farmington. Unfortunately, she had a live in boy friend who she seemed to be terribly devoted to. Again, driving would have been a better deal.
Adam, what seemed to work for me when I was operating out of Hawthorne, CA was to cover everything west of the Mississippi in the 680F(p), and go commercially east of the Mississippi, EXCEPT when I had multiple destinations in the south east and then the Commander was the best choice.
Regards,
Moe
| Quote: | Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:23:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 680FP
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And let's not forget you'll never miss a flight when you take your own plane.
Keith S Gordon
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stratobee <adam(at)adamfrisch.com> wrote:
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>Thanks, Moe.
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>55gals?? Wow. Sounds like a lot. The Aerostar 702P at running at 250kts burns about that. I guess the engines here are bigger and it's a bigger airframe, but still...
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>Anyway, good info. Yes, I would like to get something a bit faster and pressurized down the road. Every time I get groped and hassled by TSA agents on my travels, I think "I could be sitting in my own plane and not have to deal with all this c**p" listening to a podcast as I cruise along. Door to door travel times with a fast, pressurized all weather twin would be negligibly slower over most of the continental US (as long as weather cooperates).
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>As an example, my work often takes me to Chicago, New York etc. Let's take Chicago as an example. My travel times look like this with the airlines:
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>1hr to get to airport.
>1hr to check in before flight departs.
>4hr flight
>1hr to pick up luggage
>1hr to get into town/destination.
>TOTAL: 8hours
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>With a cabin class twin capable of 200kts, this is what it would take:
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>30min to get to airport
>15min to preflight
>8hrs flying
>45min refueling/snack/bathroom stop
>30min to get into town (as you're probably closer or on roads less traveled).
>TOTAL: 10hrs
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>Not that big a difference in time. And in reality, because I have a paranoia about being late and hate stress, I will almost always be at the airport 2hrs before the flight leaves, so this brings the airline option to a realistic 9hrs of travel. In price, well, that's another matter - makes no sense 
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