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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:51 am    Post subject: Oil and collant radiators Reply with quote

The manual shows an arrangement with the oil rad behind the coolant rad.

I seem to recall that the optimum cooling was an arrangement with the coolant rad above the oil rad such that the oil rad dint receive already heated air.  Is this correct and if so where do I find the pics.

Will
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:02 am    Post subject: Oil and collant radiators Reply with quote

Hi! Will,
Since my oil never gets to a reasonable temperature anyway ....... !  The general plan is to have the oil cooler set slightly (about 1.5 inches lower that the water cooling Rad.  Also have plans to plug the gap below both radiators and the bottom of the cowl. When I have time a friend gave me a thermostat oil controller to elevate the oil temperature but I need to prove the oil temperature sensor before I “monkey” with the system. I have a much modified cooling air intake and also an intake air flap to direct more cold air to the radiator on a delayed departure situation.
Frans has a wealth of info. on this subject and he may share some of it with you but we all need to know what Europa and what engine have you ?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG

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Subject: Oil and collant radiators

The manual shows an arrangement with the oil rad behind the coolant rad.

I seem to recall that the optimum cooling was an arrangement with the coolant rad above the oil rad such that the oil rad dint receive already heated air. Is this correct and if so where do I find the pics.

Will
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Oil and collant radiators Reply with quote

Graham

Thanks that pretty much answers my question for now as I am in the process of building the ducting

However further information would be gratefully received especially with respect to ducting and airflow.  I figure that once it’s all set up it’s much easier to deal with a cool running engine than a hot running engine.

I have a tri.

The engine part is a little more complex.  My engine is a turbo 912 - a Colombian adaptation which originated before the 914 came out to cope with the high altitudes.  This has a very similar footprint to a 914.  I normally limit the MAP to 33”.  I have one in my ICP Savannah and it works extremely well and it has never overheated but this aircraft has a HUGE radiator and lots of space under the cowl.

As far as the heat generation is concerned I suspect it is somewhere between a 912S and a 914.  I have the standard Europa 914 kit components inc oil and coolant rad.

Thanks

Will

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Subject: RE: Oil and collant radiators

Hi! Will,
Since my oil never gets to a reasonable temperature anyway ....... ! The general plan is to have the oil cooler set slightly (about 1.5 inches lower that the water cooling Rad. Also have plans to plug the gap below both radiators and the bottom of the cowl. When I have time a friend gave me a thermostat oil controller to elevate the oil temperature but I need to prove the oil temperature sensor before I “monkey” with the system. I have a much modified cooling air intake and also an intake air flap to direct more cold air to the radiator on a delayed departure situation.
Frans has a wealth of info. on this subject and he may share some of it with you but we all need to know what Europa and what engine have you ?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of William Daniell
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Subject: Oil and collant radiators

The manual shows an arrangement with the oil rad behind the coolant rad.

I seem to recall that the optimum cooling was an arrangement with the coolant rad above the oil rad such that the oil rad dint receive already heated air. Is this correct and if so where do I find the pics.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: Oil and collant radiators Reply with quote

Will,

There is a pretty good discussion of Europa cooling on Bud Yerly's website. Here the link:

http://customflightcreations.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/cooling101.pdf

Jim & Heather
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:53 pm    Post subject: Oil and collant radiators Reply with quote

Thanks

Thats exactly what I needed

Will

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