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Arizona Flyer

Joined: 09 May 2013
Posts: 31
Location: Casa Grande Arizona

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:49 am Post subject: How to remove tail wheel?

On my Firestar II the pizza cutter tail wheel is worn. I bought a new one from Travis at Kolb. I tried to take the old wheel off but it won't budge. It seems like the wheel collar is press fit onto the shaft? I could remove the snap ring and just install the new wheel, but as long as I bought the wheel fixed onto new bearings I'd like to use the new bearings also. I've banged on the wheel collar trying to get if off the shaft but afraid of doing damage. Is it a press fit onto the shaft? I bought a snap ring pliers to just replace the rubber wheel but having a hard time getting those snap rings to come out of the old & new wheels. So often a seemingly simple job turns into an ordeal

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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject: How to remove tail wheel?

Should just slid off. Use some penetrating oil.

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On my Firestar II the pizza cutter tail wheel is worn. I bought a new one from Travis at Kolb. I tried to take the old wheel off but it won't budge. It seems like the wheel collar is press fit onto the shaft? I could remove the snap ring and just install the new wheel, but as long as I bought the wheel fixed onto new bearings I'd like to use the new bearings also. I've banged on the wheel collar trying to get if off the shaft but afraid of doing damage. Is it a press fit onto the shaft? I bought a snap ring pliers to just replace the rubber wheel but having a hard time getting those snap rings to come out of the old & new wheels. So often a seemingly simple job turns into an ordeal 

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: How to remove tail wheel?

Tail wheel bushing will rust to the 4130 chromoly axle.

 

Beating on it could deform the chromoly tube and make it more difficult to separate

 

It will probably take a press.

 

You might try heat.

 

Good penetrating oil like Kroil:

 

http://www.kanolabs.com/

 

Kroil beats all the others I have tried.

 

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Titus, Alabama

 

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:18 pm Post subject: How to remove tail wheel?

The tail wheel looks like it's pressed onto a short tube that slides into the larger pivot assy. tube.You had to drill a hole through both and put a cotter pin in it to keep them together.I'm sure they rust together eventually.Look for that pin,I think it's on the pilots side of the assy,and you can probably see a tube in a tube from that side.

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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:26 pm Post subject: How to remove tail wheel?

Take a saws all  (reciprocating saw) and cut through the old wheel, being careful not to nip the axle too much...Herb 



 

 At 08:17 PM 11/3/2013, you wrote:

 [quote]The tail wheel looks like it's pressed onto a short tube that slides into the larger pivot assy. tube.You had to drill a hole through both and put a cotter pin in it to keep them together.I'm sure they rust together eventually.Look for that pin,I think it's on the pilots side of the assy,and you can probably see a tube in a tube from that side.

 G.Aman



 



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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: How to remove tail wheel?

Sorry Jeff,

 That tail wheel assy is a hybrid.The wheel part is stock, and should remove as I said earlier, but the full swivel deal is a welded marriage of the two kinds.It was painful to hacksaw that 200.00 unit in half, but it worked great!

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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: How to remove tail wheel?

Sorry about that, John; that was sent from my "new" nexus7, which apparently replies to the actual sender instead of the list. And the tractor was only 50 yrs old (the nexus likes to exaggerate, too).





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On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Charlie <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]50/50 mix of acetone & plain old ATF. I tried it rebuilding a 500 yr old tractor; it works.



John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:

Tail wheel bushing will rust to the 4130 chromoly axle.

 

Beating on it could deform the chromoly tube and make it more difficult to separate

 

It will probably take a press.

 

You might try heat.

 

Good penetrating oil like Kroil:

 

http://www.kanolabs.com/

 

Kroil beats all the others I have tried.

 

john h

mkIII

Titus, Alabama

 

 

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Arizona Flyer

Joined: 09 May 2013
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Location: Casa Grande Arizona

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: How to remove tail wheel?

 	  zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote: 	
		  Sorry Jeff,

 That tail wheel assy is a hybrid.The wheel part is stock, and should remove as I said earlier, but the full swivel deal is a welded marriage of the two kinds.It was painful to hacksaw that 200.00 unit in half, but it worked great!

 G.A.

    

  

     

  

     

  

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Thanks for the input guys. Gary; No problem. I'm just going to replace the wheel and hope the older bearings keep working, thanks...

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woody

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Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: How to remove tail wheel?

I changed out my "pizza cutter" earlier this year. It had been together for 10 yrs. and didn't want to come apart either. I had to remove the entire assembly, use a vice, torch and vice grips. It did finally yield but not with out considerable effort on my part. While I had it apart I changed out the springs to compression type. I used a Dunn caster & springs from Aircraft Spruce. 

Have fun with that tail-wheel....

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