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Bill_Higdon
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 Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:46 pm Post subject: Replacement Crimpers |
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Bob,
I need to replace my long serving Paladin crimpers, not due to wear, rather someone else decided they needed them more than I do. One of my criteria for the replacement is the use of field swappable dies. Having read your writings on crimpers for use with the common wire terminals I’d like your opinion on the following dies the first one the Sargent 4100-40 is the leader in my opinion
http://www.stanleysupplyservices.com/sargent-4100-40-insulated-terminal-die-set-10-22awg-double-crimp/p/685-440
The following 2 are both in the same class as far as I can see, and not quite to the standard of the Sargent. They are the AMP BM-534
http://www.automationdirect.com/static/specs/dinwiring.pdf
and the Paladin PA2035 die set
http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=420434&eventPage=1
Thanks,
Bill Higdon
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:53 am Post subject: Replacement Crimpers |
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At 08:46 PM 11/11/2013, you wrote:
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Bob,
I need to replace my long serving Paladin
crimpers, not due to wear, rather someone else
decided they needed them more than I do. One of
my criteria for the replacement is the use of
field swappable dies. Having read your writings
on crimpers for use with the common wire
terminals I’d like your opinion on the
following dies the first one the Sargent 4100-40 is the leader in my opinion
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I'm not really in a position to offer useful
information on the various products. I've
evaluated a few tools and compared with the
performance of my $high$ Amp crimpers . . . and
found most to be satisfactory alternatives.
I started to look at exchangeable die-sets
a few years back but the cost of serviceable
complete tools was so low that the idea of making
one handle do lots of jobs wasn't very attractive.
Further, the costs of loose die-sets is driven
by volume of sales . . . seems that die-sets
could easily approach the cost of a complete
tool!
Sorry I can't be more helpful . . .
Bob . . .
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Bill_Higdon
Joined: 02 Nov 2013
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Location: Salem, Or
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| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: Replacement Crimpers |
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| nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect wrote: | At 08:46 PM 11/11/2013, you wrote:
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Bob,
I need to replace my long serving Paladin
crimpers, not due to wear, rather someone else
decided they needed them more than I do. One of
my criteria for the replacement is the use of
field swappable dies. Having read your writings
on crimpers for use with the common wire
terminals I’d like your opinion on the
following dies the first one the Sargent 4100-40 is the leader in my opinion
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I'm not really in a position to offer useful
information on the various products. I've
evaluated a few tools and compared with the
performance of my $high$ Amp crimpers . . . and
found most to be satisfactory alternatives.
I started to look at exchangeable die-sets
a few years back but the cost of serviceable
complete tools was so low that the idea of making
one handle do lots of jobs wasn't very attractive.
Further, the costs of loose die-sets is driven
by volume of sales . . . seems that die-sets
could easily approach the cost of a complete
tool!
Sorry I can't be more helpful . . .
Bob . . . |
Bob,
Thanks for your reply, I started using crimpers with replaceable dies when I started working with small quantities of many different coax connectors. One thing I found is interesting is Amp/Tyco has a simple procedure to verify the crimpers are working properly something I haven't seen for any of the other manufacturers.
Bill
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bakerocb
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| Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:46 am Post subject: Replacement Crimpers |
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12/20/2013
Hello Bill Higdon, You wrote: “One thing I found is interesting is Amp/Tyco has a simple procedure to verify the crimpers
are working properly......”
And we can find a description of this simple procedure where????
OC
'O C' Baker says "The best investment you can make is the effort to gather and understand information."
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Time: 04:21:33 PM PST US
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Replacement Crimpers
From: "Bill_Higdon" <willard561(at)aol.com>
Bob,
Thanks for your reply, I started using crimpers with replaceable dies when I started
working with small quantities of many different coax connectors. One thing
I found is interesting is Amp/Tyco has a simple procedure to verify the crimpers
are working properly something I haven't seen for any of the other manufacturers.
Bill
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415881#415881
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Bill_Higdon
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| Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Replacement Crimpers |
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[quote="bakerocb"]12/20/2013
Hello Bill Higdon, You wrote: “One thing I found is interesting is Amp/Tyco has a simple procedure to verify the crimpers
are working properly......”
And we can find a description of this simple procedure where????
OC
'O C' Baker says "The best investment you can make is the effort to gather and understand information."
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Time: 04:21:33 PM PST US
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Replacement Crimpers
From: "Bill_Higdon" <willard561>
Bob,
Thanks for your reply, I started using crimpers with replaceable dies when I started
working with small quantities of many different coax connectors. One thing
I found is interesting is Amp/Tyco has a simple procedure to verify the crimpers
are working properly something I haven't seen for any of the other manufacturers.
Bill
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415881#415881
It's in ENG_SS_408--9252_1.pdf, which I attached, on page 3 figure 4.
Bill
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:42 am Post subject: Replacement Crimpers |
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At 12:19 PM 12/20/2013, you wrote:
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[quote="bakerocb"]12/20/2013
Hello Bill Higdon, You wrote: “One thing
I found is interesting is Amp/Tyco has a
simple procedure to verify the crimpers
are working properly......”
And we can find a description of this simple procedure where????
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Crimpers that bring dies down against hard
stops are generally 'golden' as long as they
get fully closed each stroke. The only effect
for service life that would make them unsuitable
is to wear out the dies . . . and that is
exceedingly unlikely in the OBAM aviation shop.
Bob . . .
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hooverra
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
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Location: The Plains, Virginia
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| Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:32 am Post subject: Replacement crimpers |
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OC asked about the simple procedure for AMP crimp QA.
Their PIDG crimpers have a witness mark in the die that is visible in a crimp. It at least allows you to know that the proper crimper was used. The crimpers is also controlled cycle so that it must be closed all the way before it will release.
Ralph
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