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joeing701(at)internet.is
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

Hello list members.



I have a question about over spray.

A hangar "buddy" was spraying his cowling in the HANGAR, without 

realizing that the spray would get in the air and flow over all the 

other planes in the hangar. duh.  You will notice that I am not a happy 

camper.

I had just completed building my Zenith 701 with an expensive paintwork. 

Now I have a white rough coat on all the top surfaces on my newly 

painted plane.

I have used white spirit, "goo gone" and waxed with carnauba car wax 

with no result. There is a shine in the paint, but when you stroke the 

surface, you will find the like sandy surface instead of the smooth 

surface feel.



Does anyone have a solution or know of a material for this, other than 

polishing compound.

I would like to eliminate scratching the fresh paint until it gets old 

and beat up.



I appreciate any help.



Best wishes.

Johann G.

Iceland.

Joeing 701

dredmoody(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

(A) Take out a life insurance policy on the "hangar buddy" 

(B) Shoot the aforementioned buddy

(C) Use the insurance money to get the 701 repainted

(D) If there is enough money left over, send flowers to his family.



Ed

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Do Not Paint in the Hangar



---- "JÃ³hann Gestur" <joeing701(at)internet.is> wrote: 

 	  Quote: 	
		   A hangar "buddy" was spraying his cowling in the HANGAR, without 

 realizing that the spray would get in the air and flow over all the 

 other planes in the hangar. duh.  You will notice that I am not a happy 

 camper.

 Does anyone have a solution or know of a material for this, other than 

 polishing compound.

larry(at)macsmachine.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

Johann,

You can remove the overspray easily with a Meguires polish and buffer, 

or you can wet or dry at 1500 grit and polish

from there.  Realizing .016 commands a much more delicate touch with a 

buffer and even wet sanding at 2000 grit is going

to go slowly.  The easier is first to go at it with 2000 wet or dry and 

keep the paper wet so you don't load it up.  A light buffer

after should cut and polish if you go very lightly at it.  And then 

there's always your insurance company.. 



Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com



Jóhann Gestur wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <joeing701(at)internet.is>



 Hello list members.



 I have a question about over spray.

 A hangar "buddy" was spraying his cowling in the HANGAR, without 

 realizing that the spray would get in the air and flow over all the 

 other planes in the hangar. duh.  You will notice that I am not a 

 happy camper.

 I had just completed building my Zenith 701 with an expensive 

 paintwork. Now I have a white rough coat on all the top surfaces on my 

 newly painted plane.

 I have used white spirit, "goo gone" and waxed with carnauba car wax 

 with no result. There is a shine in the paint, but when you stroke the 

 surface, you will find the like sandy surface instead of the smooth 

 surface feel.



 Does anyone have a solution or know of a material for this, other than 

 polishing compound.

 I would like to eliminate scratching the fresh paint until it gets old 

 and beat up.



 I appreciate any help.



 Best wishes.

 Johann G.

 Iceland.

 Joeing 701

pacificpainting(at)comcas
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

Hi Ed,



I got a good belly laugh from your post.



I considered telling this guy to try using a 

major "Hot" solvent like Xylene to clean off the 

new paint but decided against it.  I might try 

this, but there are serious risks of taking all 

the paint off  instead of just the new stuff and 

also of turning yourself into a house plant if 

you don't use proper breathing equipment with this poisonous stuff.



Have fun,



Paul



At 04:55 PM 6/20/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  



(A) Take out a life insurance policy on the "hangar buddy"

(B) Shoot the aforementioned buddy

(C) Use the insurance money to get the 701 repainted

(D) If there is enough money left over, send flowers to his family.



Ed

Do Not Archive

Do Not Paint in the Hangar



---- "JÃ³hann Gestur" <joeing701(at)internet.is> wrote:

 > A hangar "buddy" was spraying his cowling in the HANGAR, without

 > realizing that the spray would get in the air and flow over all the

 > other planes in the hangar. duh.  You will notice that I am not a happy

 > camper.

 > Does anyone have a solution or know of a material for this, other than

 > polishing compound.




	


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Paul Mulwitz

32013 NE Dial Road

Camas, WA 98607

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pacificpainting(at)comcas
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:55 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

I don't know if it will work or not, but you might try what detail shops 

use. Go to an automotive paint store and  ask them for some clay to remove 

overspray. I'm not sure what you call it, but it looks and feels just like 

modeling clay. It takes awhile but it might work and it's worth a shot.



Dave in Salem



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Larry Martin

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 31
Location: Cabot, Arkansas

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

I've been painting for 40 years plus and have had this problem many many

times.   There are several different things you can try.  I've had them all

work at different times, depending on what the overspray is and how long

it's been on.  First try a paint-prep you can get at an auto parts that

handles paint, NAPA.  Most of the time this works, you will have to wax

afterwards.  Put some on a small spot, let it stand, then rub it off.   If

that doesn't work, try a small spot with plain old rubbing compound,  I've

had luck with that too.   Your last hope would be 1000/1500 grit wet

sandpaper and buffing, .  Now if the guy was spraying an epoxy or urethane,

you could be fried, especially if it's been on for a while and if it's on

fairly new paint.  The overspray will kind of melt into uncured paint.  I

don't like the sanding, it's hard work and will most likely take the paint

off the top of your rivets.



Probably number one will work best, take it easy and take your time.



Make you buddy do it, he should have known better.



Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com





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701 with a Harley, www.skyhawg.com

pacificpainting(at)comcas
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

YEAH, WHAT HE SAID.



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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

There is a product called "overspary clay"...Never used it but its supposed to be magical.



Other than that your buddy (not) will likely be wet sanding it off and rebuffing...Not the end of the world but not good either.



Frank 



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pacificpainting(at)comcas
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

Depending on what type of paint is on your plane, you might be able to use 

lacquer thinner. I have been a painting contractor forever and I have the 

guys use lacquer thinner to get overspray off of the company trucks. It 

cleans them up and doesn't hurt the original paint. If you used automotive 

paint and it is cured it should work OK. If you aren't sure try a small spot 

in an unobtrusive spot.



Dave in Salem

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gk(at)601hd.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: Paint overspary

Johann,

It's the raised rivet heads that'll be the challenge if you use wet&dry.  I

certainly wouldn't have the patience to  clean around every single one of

them.



If the paint chemistries are sufficiently different and you know their

compositions, I would expect that an industrial paint supplier could steer

you towards a specific solvent that will remove only the bad stuff.  I am

sure you are not the first person to have this problem but you should try to

fix this as soon as possible.  A while ago I oversprayed enamel over an

epoxy based paint.  It was easy to remove the enamel with solvent until

about two days after the crime.  After that the solvent had no effect. 



Graham Kirby

601hd

n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: Paint overspary

I am pretty sure this will not work on a Zenith Aircraft. If the surface was smooth the polishing process would work but with the pulled rivets and the domed heads they have, the end result will be a bunch of shiny rivet heads and overspray still on the flat skin. Just my two cents worth..

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Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



-- "Larry" <lrm01(at)centurytel.net> wrote:




I've been painting for 40 years plus and have had this problem many many

times.   There are several different things you can try.  I've had them all

work at different times, depending on what the overspray is and how long

it's been on.  First try a paint-prep you can get at an auto parts that

handles paint, NAPA.  Most of the time this works, you will have to wax

afterwards.  Put some on a small spot, let it stand, then rub it off.   If

that doesn't work, try a small spot with plain old rubbing compound,  I've

had luck with that too.   Your last hope would be 1000/1500 grit wet

sandpaper and buffing, .  Now if the guy was spraying an epoxy or urethane,

you could be fried, especially if it's been on for a while and if it's on

fairly new paint.  The overspray will kind of melt into uncured paint.  I

don't like the sanding, it's hard work and will most likely take the paint

off the top of your rivets.



Probably number one will work best, take it easy and take your time.



Make you buddy do it, he should have known better.



Larry, N1345L, www.skyhawg.com





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joeing701(at)internet.is
Guest

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:16 am Post subject: Paint overspary

Hello.



Thank you all who responded to my inquire about the paint over spray.

Ed, your recommendations are all great, but he is still a "buddy" event 

though he forgot to think. Could not do that to the guy.

Frank, Yes I have heard about this clay but never imagined it could work 

on my plane. I think I will look more into that solution.

Larry McFarland, I did not want to polish or sand the thin surface too 

much, unless I absolutely have too. Also too much work.

Rich, I do not dare use too abrasive thinner on the paint. I used the 

White Spirit which did not do anything.

The large surfaces would take too long to work this way, and I would 

never trust the "buddy" to touch my plane, ever. He has done enough.

I will try the clay method as suggested by Frank and will let you all 

know, in case you have a "buddy" like I have, in your hangar.



Thank you again,

Regards,

Johann G.

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mileski(at)sonalysts.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: Paint overspary

The type of paint you have on your plane, and how cured it is, is 

important. I have some experience with Imron, and I have been able to 

use very powerful solvents on it, with no effect. Hopefully the 

overspray went on kind of dry and adhesion is minimal.

Best of luck,



Bill Mileski

701 5 hours

joeing701(at)internet.is
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: Paint overspary

Bill Mileski wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 The type of paint you have on your plane, and how cured it is, is 

 important. I have some experience with Imron, and I have been able to 

 use very powerful solvents on it, with no effect. Hopefully the 

 overspray went on kind of dry and adhesion is minimal.

 Best of luck,



 Bill Mileski

 701 5 hours




	


Hello Bill.

Yes, I am also using Imron 500 and the paint is since last July. I am 

not sure how dry the over spray paint was when it went on but it is 

really stuck on there. I hope the clay will work. I will try it tomorrow.



Thanks,

Johann G.

Iceland.

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