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rexinator

Joined: 31 Jan 2009
Posts: 33

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:55 am Post subject: off topic request: Aircraft on Google map

Kitfoxers,

  I volunteer at the Pueblo Wiesbrod Aircraft Museum (www.pwam.org). One 

of my activities there is to answer emails to the museum. This week we 

got an email from this fellow:

 > Stanley de Beauvesier Watson

 > the Netherlands

 > email: plymouth72(at)hotmail.com



  He had located what appears to be a possible aircraft wreck on Google 

Earth. He suspected it to be an A-20 and it might interest our museum or 

others we could contact.  I've checked online submit the following:

  Aircraft on Malaspina Glacier West of Yakutat City, AK.

Google map coordinates: 59 47.255 -140 35.170 (paste the coordinates 

into Google maps search)



  In my opinion it looks like a modern twin engine airplane more than a 

A-20 because I think the engine nacelles would still show as bumps 

behind the wings.

  See this photo:

http://www.47thbombgroup.org/documents/images/night_intruders.jpg



It is difficult to conclude more from the Google map image. It's 

possible it was an aircraft in flight captured by satellite imaging as I 

have been unable to find anything about a twin engine crash in the area 

on the internet.  Stanley is suggesting it could be a WWII aircraft 

revealed by the melting glacier. I am doubtful.



  Anyone have any ideas that could help further this subject? You can 

email me direct at: rexinator(at)gmail.com



Rex Hefferan

M2/582

Pueblo, CO

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michaelgibbs(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:41 am Post subject: off topic request: Aircraft on Google map

Maybe one of our Alaska members could fly over and check it out!

Mike G.

Phoenix, AZ

Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6

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		   On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Rexinator <rexinator(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 Kitfoxers,

 I volunteer at the Pueblo Wiesbrod Aircraft Museum (www.pwam.org). One of my activities there is to answer emails to the museum. This week we got an email from this fellow:

 > Stanley de Beauvesier Watson

 > the Netherlands

 > email: plymouth72(at)hotmail.com

 He had located what appears to be a possible aircraft wreck on Google Earth. He suspected it to be an A-20 and it might interest our museum or others we could contact.  I've checked online submit the following:

 Aircraft on Malaspina Glacier West of Yakutat City, AK.

 Google map coordinates: 59 47.255 -140 35.170 (paste the coordinates into Google maps search)

 In my opinion it looks like a modern twin engine airplane more than a A-20 because I think the engine nacelles would still show as bumps behind the wings.

 See this photo:

 http://www.47thbombgroup.org/documents/images/night_intruders.jpg

 It is difficult to conclude more from the Google map image. It's possible it was an aircraft in flight captured by satellite imaging as I have been unable to find anything about a twin engine crash in the area on the internet.  Stanley is suggesting it could be a WWII aircraft revealed by the melting glacier. I am doubtful.

 Anyone have any ideas that could help further this subject? You can email me direct at: rexinator(at)gmail.com

 Rex Hefferan

 M2/582

 Pueblo, CO

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nail13zg(at)centurytel.ne
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject: off topic request: Aircraft on Google map

Interestingly, the image is not visible on Bing Maps birdseye view. The 

Google Earth image is from 2007; can't get the date on Bing.



As for the plane itself, based on the shadow about where the aft door would 

be, and compared to shadows from nearby rocks, I'd say it is on the ground, 

and has now been recovered.



Trey Moran

KF 5, EA-81



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rexinator

Joined: 31 Jan 2009
Posts: 33

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:20 pm Post subject: off topic request: Aircraft on Google map

That would be great if someone from that area reads this list. I was 

also thinking of contacting the town or airport there to ask if they 

could answer the question.



Rex Hefferan

M2/582

Pueblo, CO

On 12/15/2013 9:40 AM, Michael Gibbs wrote:

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 Maybe one of our Alaska members could fly over and check it out!



 Mike G.

 Phoenix, AZ

 Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster, Series 6

> On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Rexinator <rexinator(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>

> 

>

> Kitfoxers,

> I volunteer at the Pueblo Wiesbrod Aircraft Museum (www.pwam.org). One of my activities there is to answer emails to the museum. This week we got an email from this fellow:

>> Stanley de Beauvesier Watson

>> the Netherlands

>> email: plymouth72(at)hotmail.com

> He had located what appears to be a possible aircraft wreck on Google Earth. He suspected it to be an A-20 and it might interest our museum or others we could contact.  I've checked online submit the following:

> Aircraft on Malaspina Glacier West of Yakutat City, AK.

> Google map coordinates: 59 47.255 -140 35.170 (paste the coordinates into Google maps search)

>

> In my opinion it looks like a modern twin engine airplane more than a A-20 because I think the engine nacelles would still show as bumps behind the wings.

> See this photo:

> http://www.47thbombgroup.org/documents/images/night_intruders.jpg

>

> It is difficult to conclude more from the Google map image. It's possible it was an aircraft in flight captured by satellite imaging as I have been unable to find anything about a twin engine crash in the area on the internet.  Stanley is suggesting it could be a WWII aircraft revealed by the melting glacier. I am doubtful.

>

> Anyone have any ideas that could help further this subject? You can email me direct at: rexinator(at)gmail.com

>

> Rex Hefferan

> M2/582

> Pueblo, CO

>

>

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:33 am Post subject: Re: off topic request: Aircraft on Google map

Rex, I posted the location on the Back Country Pilots web site and asked if anyone knows anything about it.  Some interesting replies but nothing definite yet.  It seems to be a large cargo type plane.



here's a link to that thread.  http://www.backcountrypilot.org/community/forum/latest/aircraft-on-malaspina-glacier-14157

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: off topic request: Aircraft on Google map

Rex, here's a reply to my post on BCP that may help solve the mystery.



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		  You might want to contact the Alaska Rescue Coordination Center on Elmendorf AFB. that's near Anchorage. They keep a chart of all known wreckage in the state of AK. I've called in a couple of wrecks that were mapped, and one that wasn't....two fellows missing for thirty years. Ya never know, but if it is mapped they can tell you the type and date.



Base locator number is: 907-552-1110.

MTV

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