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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:37 am    Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/18/13 Reply with quote

I wouldnt put a hirth on a golf cart! I personally know of two that almost turned the planes into scrap. One fried pistons twice and brought the plane down and the other, hangered right here with me , cracked the casing next to the head in flight. Metel seems to be too soft to hold bolts from what i hear. Do a lot of ckecking. My buddy would be happy tp part with his very cheap. They offered to fix it for abt a thousand
My opinions and observations. Ted Cowan slingshot 912 ul zoom zoom

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1. 03:17 PM - Re: Tee wagon (Rick Lewis)
2. 05:27 PM - Firefly/introduction (Stuart Harner)
3. 09:06 PM - Re: Firefly/introduction (Larry Cottrell)



________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________


Time: 03:17:13 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Tee wagon
From: "Rick Lewis" <cktman(at)wildblue.net>


I like it, good job, thanks for the picture....

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Rick Lewis

(VW Watercooled Engine)


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________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________


Time: 05:27:35 PM PST US
From: "Stuart Harner" <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>
Subject: Firefly/introduction

Hello Everyone,


My Firefly quick build kit arrived today. Partain Transportation delivered
it from the factory. I must say, I don't think there was any way to get it
here for less money and less hassle. The kit is excellent in workmanship
and there is no way I could have done it as quickly or as well as the
factory did. For me the quick build option is definitely the way to go.


I would be most interested in hearing from other Firefly owners on any
subject from the kit, covering, painting, or engine selection to flying
characteristics.


A little about me:


I learned to fly in an Aeronca LB-65 Pre-War Chief as a teenager. I owned
and flew a '63 Piper Cherokee 180 for a little over ten years and loved that
airplane! Alas, it became too expensive to keep when my flying habits
changed and cross country travel became a thing of the past. I flew the
Chief for a few years, but life changes made that more difficult and the
cost of owning a hanger and plane kept climbing, although my yearly logbook
entries kept shrinking. I finally sold the Chief this spring and started
looking for an ulta-light that I could keep and fly nearby. The hangar is
gone too, so storage in a trailer was one of my prime requirements.


Initially I was very intrigued by the BackYard Flyer. I contacted the
company and was very excited to visit with them at Oshkosh, fully prepared
to order one while there. I was greatly disappointed by the fact that they
did not even bring a partially build unit to show off at Oshkosh. It seemed
as though I was intruding on their family vacation by asking questions. I
liked the design and the price, but wanted to see one fly and get a good
firsthand look at the product. Delivery time was quoted at over a year and
there were no versions near me to look at. I left my contact information
with the company with promises to put me in touch with other owners so that
I may find out more. I never heard a word from them.


While walking the booths at Oshkosh, I found Kolb. I knew of them, but not
about them. When I discovered they folded up, I got very interested.
Visiting with Bryan and Travis was like a breath of fresh air, with a hint
of used car salesman thrown in. But what the heck, that is their job. I
found them to be friendly, and straight forward. I did not commit at
Oshkosh, but thought about the Firefly all the way home and spent an entire
day on the internet researching the plane and the company. I could not find
any disparaging remarks AT ALL! I bit the bullet and ordered my kit.


Kolb has been a delight to work with, and I expect to be in much closer
contact with them as I get into the process of finishing the Firefly. Based
on my experiences so far, I expect this is going to be fairly easy and lots
of fun. I have no worries about getting support from the factory.


I have not made an engine decision yet, but will be ordering the covering
kit soon. I helped a friend cover and paint his Fisher Classic with
Polyfiber products several years ago and was so impressed, I don't think I
will use anything else. Anyone want to try and persuade me differently?
Please let me hear from you.


I am leaning towards the Hirth 2702 with a Warp Drive 3 blade, but again, I
want to hear from others.


One last note, I really liked the delivery service by Partain. I had not
heard of them, but Travis at Kolb made all the arrangements. I could not
have gotten the kit here by any other means for less $ and it was hassle
free. I would definitely use them again. Thanks to Tony Partain and driver
Michael!


I have perused the forums and am hoping to start quite a lot of conversation
about the Firefly.


Thanks for your consideration.


Stuart Harner

Central North Dakota


P.S. Anyone want a partially completed Loehle 5151 Kit? I certainly don't
need it anymore, I have a FIREFLY!!!


________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________


Time: 09:06:33 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Firefly/introduction
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com>

It appears that all the experts are busy, so I will at least acknowledge
that your question was seen at least by one. First congratulations on your
smart choice. I believe that you will love the little bird. However unless
there has been some serious changes with Hirth I would do a lot of checking
before I committed to it. I have no solid evidence against them, other than
the experiences of a couple of friends, which were not all that good.
Good luck,
Larry


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Stuart Harner <stuart(at)harnerfarm.net>wrote
:

> Hello Everyone,
>
>
> My Firefly quick build kit arrived today. Partain Transportation
> delivered it from the factory. I must say, I don=92t think there was any
way
> to get it here for less money and less hassle. The kit is excellent in
> workmanship and there is no way I could have done it as quickly or as wel
l
> as the factory did. For me the quick build option is definitely the way
to
> go.
>
>
> I would be most interested in hearing from other Firefly owners on any
> subject from the kit, covering, painting, or engine selection to flying
> characteristics.
>
>
> A little about me:
>
>
> I learned to fly in an Aeronca LB-65 Pre-War Chief as a teenager. I owne
d
> and flew a =9263 Piper Cherokee 180 for a little over ten years and loved
> that airplane! Alas, it became too expensive to keep when my flying habi
ts
> changed and cross country travel became a thing of the past. I flew the
> Chief for a few years, but life changes made that more difficult and the
> cost of owning a hanger and plane kept climbing, although my yearly logbo
ok
> entries kept shrinking. I finally sold the Chief this spring and started
> looking for an ulta-light that I could keep and fly nearby. The hangar i
s
> gone too, so storage in a trailer was one of my prime requirements.
>
>
> Initially I was very intrigued by the BackYard Flyer. I contacted the
> company and was very excited to visit with them at Oshkosh, fully prepare
d
> to order one while there. I was greatly disappointed by the fact that th
ey
> did not even bring a partially build unit to show off at Oshkosh. It
> seemed as though I was intruding on their family vacation by asking
> questions. I liked the design and the price, but wanted to see one fly a
nd
> get a good firsthand look at the product. Delivery time was quoted at ov
er
> a year and there were no versions near me to look at. I left my contact
> information with the company with promises to put me in touch with other
> owners so that I may find out more. I never heard a word from them.
>
>
> While walking the booths at Oshkosh, I found Kolb. I knew of them, but
> not about them. When I discovered they folded up, I got very interested.
> Visiting with Bryan and Travis was like a breath of fresh air, with a hin
t
> of used car salesman thrown in. But what the heck, that is their job. I
> found them to be friendly, and straight forward. I did not commit at
> Oshkosh, but thought about the Firefly all the way home and spent an enti
re
> day on the internet researching the plane and the company. I could not
> find any disparaging remarks AT ALL! I bit the bullet and ordered my kit
..
>
>
> Kolb has been a delight to work with, and I expect to be in much closer
> contact with them as I get into the process of finishing the Firefly.
> Based on my experiences so far, I expect this is going to be fairly easy
> and lots of fun. I have no worries about getting support from the factor
y.
>
>
> I have not made an engine decision yet, but will be ordering the covering
> kit soon. I helped a friend cover and paint his Fisher Classic with
> Polyfiber products several years ago and was so impressed, I don=92t thin
k I
> will use anything else. Anyone want to try and persuade me differently?
> Please let me hear from you.
>
>
> I am leaning towards the Hirth 2702 with a Warp Drive 3 blade, but again,
> I want to hear from others.
>
>
> One last note, I really liked the delivery service by Partain. I had not
> heard of them, but Travis at Kolb made all the arrangements. I could not
> have gotten the kit here by any other means for less $ and it was hassle
> free. I would definitely use them again. Thanks to Tony Partain and
> driver Michael!
>
>
> I have perused the forums and am hoping to start quite a lot of
> conversation about the Firefly.
>
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
>
> Stuart Harner
>
> Central North Dakota
>
>
> P.S. Anyone want a partially completed Loehle 5151 Kit? I certainly
> don=92t need it anymore, I have a FIREFLY!!!
>
>
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:49 am    Post subject: Kolb-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/18/13 Reply with quote

CONGRATULATIONS! Stuart.
Thanks for sharing.
I would definitely go with Poli-fiber from Aircraft Technical Support. They give the same great service as Travis and Bryan and Dennis.
All-around great folk involved in producing, building, flying and supplying, etc. Kolbs. Thank God for Mr Kolb.
Have a Blessed Christmas as you begin building.
Bob
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