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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

hello everyone.
are Daniele from Italy.
Should I buy this plane in Italy kolb mark 3 of 1995 I wanted some more information on the reliability and safety in flight, from someone who usa.Dal my point of view is doing research seems like a good aircraft, seeing the structure of 'wing seems robust, then the fact that the wings are closed again for me would be an advantage.
According to you flying in windy conditions even slightly accentuated and safe? Maneuver it well? I send you a picture.
do you think you can turn into bicyclo how did the original?
Even the doors and can turn gullwing?
in practice all the information you can give me.
one last thing a kolb the property after all these years, after having made ​​a good maintenance when it lasts over time?
sorry for writing but I'm writing tramitte translator.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Sad I urgently need some of you to know about this plane ... all the information about it thanks

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:31 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Here is the factory link...
Herb

http://www.kolbaircraft.com/markiiiclassic.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

I thank you for that.
I would like to know from the people who used this h'anno plane.
how to fly?
and robust?
in turbulence with the wind?
in practice and to know if a plane safely, because here in Italy I do not have much information.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:13 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Hi,   The reason that you are having a bit of trouble in finding all the information that you want, is that your questions are a bit vague. Try this link of one of John Hauck's trips in a Mark III.


http://www.alabamaaviator.com/isaa.asp?id=72867

The internet might be your best source for a lot of your questions. However having gone through the same search as you are, In my opinion the Kolb is the best all around option for this type of aircraft. The strength of the craft is among if not the best in the field. It can handle a lot more than you can, and do it well.
Good luck,
Larry

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I thank you for that.
I would like to know from the people who used this h'anno plane.
how to fly?
and robust?
in turbulence with the wind?
in practice and to know if a plane safely, because here in Italy I do not have much information.




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Probably a bit of a language problem...? I think he is using a translation program? Herb


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[quote] Hi, The reason that you are having a bit of trouble in finding all the information that you want, is that your questions are a bit vague. Try this link of one of John Hauck's trips in a Mark III.


http://www.alabamaaviator.com/isaa.asp?id=72867



The internet might be your best source for a lot of your questions. However having gone through the same search as you are, In my opinion the Kolb is the best all around option for this type of aircraft. The strength of the craft is among if not the best in the field. It can handle a lot more than you can, and do it well.
Good luck,
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I thank you for that.
I would like to know from the people who used this h'anno plane.
how to fly?
and robust?
in turbulence with the wind?
in practice and to know if a plane safely, because here in Italy I do not have much information.




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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Here are some answers for you:
The airplane is very sturdy and handles turbulence well.
It is easy to modify how the doors attach. If Italy law permits, it will be easy to change.
You ask about modifying to conventional landing gear arrangement -
Please send us a close up picture of how the gear exits the fuselage.
Without more information on the present main landing gear, it is difficult to answer.
The present landing gear might be something you would like to keep using.
However, looking at your picture, it appears that the fuselage is lower to the ground than normal.
The distance from the landing gear socket to the ground should be at least 14.5 inches with the tail wheel on the ground.
With an insufficient angle, you will not have the proper flight attitude when taking off or landing.
The aircraft is easy to maintain with little expense. Expense would depend on which engine you are using.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Sad I urgently need some of you to know about this plane ... all the
information about it thanks

Dany:

I feel your pain. I have been in similar situations in your country, Italy,
50 years ago, in dire need of a bath room and not getting much results in my
inability to speak and understand Italian.

The Kolb MKIII is a very good, very strong aircraft. They have been proven
in all types of flying conditions and terrain since the first one flew in
1992.

My personal MKIII has well over 3,200.0 hours flight time on the airframe.
Built in 1991, it first flew in March 1992. I am still flying the same
MKIII. It has flown to all States in the United States except Hawaii, most
of the Provinces of Canada. Flown in extreme weather, wind, temperature,
and turbulence. As Larry Cottrell said in a previous message, the MKIII
with endure more than the pilot in rough air.

What else can I say about this great little airplane, except that there are
many Kolbs flying, like mine, with many, many hours.

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Am I looking at that picture right? My eyes are getting old but it looks like that is setup as a trike gear but the picture isn't that clear. I haven't seen that before on a MKIII.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:55 pm    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

And the tail is modified for higher rotation clearance. Hence there is no fin or ruder beneath the tail boom. Hardly a Kolb anymore. But probably still a solid flyer. No way for us to know the quality of the build without being able to touch and inspect it,
Buyer beware.

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Am I looking at that picture right? My eyes are getting old but it looks like that is setup as a trike gear but the picture isn't that clear. I haven't seen that before on a MKIII.




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:51 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

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And the tail is modified for higher rotation clearance. Hence there is no fin or ruder beneath the tail boom. Hardly a Kolb anymore. But probably still a solid flyer. No way for us to know the quality of the build without being able to touch and inspect it,
Buyer beware.

Tri gear... is that a Ferguson rather than a Kolb? Isn't a Ferguson basically a Kolb copy with tri gear? Or perhaps it's a Kolb modified with Ferguson parts. Then you have to wonder how well the conversion was engineered...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

thanks to all for the moment.
When will purchase the aircraft I will send you pictures.
However, I can turn it like this?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Dana, I think you may have hit it.
http://siamesekrazy.wix.com/fergusonaircraft

Daniele - are you sure that the airplane you are looking at is a Kolb?
Because it looks a lot like a Ferguson.
Please verify by comparing it with the pictures on the "About" page of the Ferguson link.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

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Dana, I think you may have hit it.
http://siamesekrazy.wix.com/fergusonaircraft

http://siamesekrazy.wix.com/fergusonaircraft#!about

Daniele - are you sure that the airplane you are looking at is a Kolb?
Please verify by comparing it with the pictures on the 2nd link above.

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Richard, comparing the picture he sent first it looks like a Kolb tail feathers. Horizontial stabalizer front attachment point mounted to the tailboom. Not like the Fergy.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:19 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

 
Hi Boyd,
I have traveled around the US looking for the right Kolb. I enjoyed the flights we took in your MK III. I am still seeking  a Kolb Mark III Classic to buy. Let me know if you can think of someone who is selling one.
 
Thanks again Boyd, I look forward to our next flight. Give me a call when you are ready. 801-502-7016
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

The owner has confirmed to me that it is a kolb mark the three. From the photos it does not seem fergusona. The owner told me that when it was built object to the amendment made ​​to the three axes, because he did not like the bicyclo

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

look at this picture.
Here you can see better.
the former owner.
according to you and a kolb mark 3 or not?
from the pictures it seems to you, anyway Saturday I'm going to take then you keep up to date


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Very do able mods....use the original gear leg tube attach points but
angle the legs outward and backward ..add free castering nose wheel(or
maybe not?) .. and one is in business... should lengthen the take off
roll some what . Herb
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the former owner.
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from the pictures it seems to you, anyway Saturday I'm going to take then you keep up to date



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:09 am    Post subject: Kolb MK lll Reply with quote

Daniele, There's certainly a lot of Mk III in the airplane, but there have been so many changes made that it is a new airplane now. Good luck.

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the former owner.
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Looking at this interior picture, it appears the original gear leg tubes
were cut off of the hoop ring that fits at the forward end of the 6" fuselage tube.
Then it looks like new structure was welded up to attach the gear leg tubes
at a new angle. Assuming that if was done properly, it might be OK.
But I'm not an engineer, so I don't know..
The fuel lines in the picture are brown, obviously old.
They need to be replaced.
Suggest you use standard automotive fuel line.
Also suggest you carefully check the rest of the fuel system.
There may be other problems which are not as obvious.


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