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 Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:37 am Post subject: flight guide publications |
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About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com). They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it. Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond telling me it will ship in "a couple months".
They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling apart.
Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What?
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JohnF
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| Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:52 am Post subject: flight guide publications |
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I subscribed to the printed version of Flight Guide for several years but quit because of their practice of sending me a bill marked DUE NOW when in fact it wasn't due for up to 7-months in the future. I complained about that practice and they did not respond either.
John Fasching
Salida, CO
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:56 pm Post subject: flight guide publications |
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sarg314(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:37 am Post subject: flight guide publications |
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John:
where are you getting the airport info if not from flight guide? I really like the airport diagrams in flight guide, otherwise I just get the FAA facilities book.
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JohnF
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:54 am Post subject: flight guide publications |
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I get airport diagrams and information from WingX on my Ipad, and also on my backup HP 4700 using Anywhere Map...also additional info from Air Nav web site.
John
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:55 pm Post subject: flight guide publications |
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I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change
in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what
their left foot is doing.
I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their
excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor
quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale
their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of
the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com).
They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it.
Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond
telling me it will ship in "a couple months".
They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or
Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered
device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling
apart.
Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that
they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What?
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Tom Sargent
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Gary.A.Sobek
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:17 pm Post subject: flight guide publications |
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If everyone that has had problems with them posts something, this will be a very long thread.
I tried their new paper product, it was late, and not user friendly. I had the entire US or all 6 books in the new format. Started using Foreflight but kept the local book for one year. I may have opened it once in a year but I may have never opened it. Dropped all their products and do not miss it.
Years ago, I had a difficult time reading documents on a computer but since everything at work was available as a soft copy or I could print and have a hard copy, I taught myself to read on the computer screen without the hard copy. Since the iPad has come out, I read almost everything as a eCopy.
IF the eCopy of Flight Guide was FREE or a couple of bucks, I may use it but have been able to get everything I need from Foreflight so will use the money I save for AvGas and fly more.
BTW, I have 1,635 Cross Country hours and do use the latest info for flight planning and execution. Flight Guide is not one of the products that I have used since they changed the format. Yes I tried it, did not like it, found Foreflight to be an EXCELLENT replacement.
Respectfully,
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,820+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA
| Quote: | From: ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:53:37 -0800
Subject: Re: flight guide publications
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
--> RV-List message posted by: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com>
I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change
in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what
their left foot is doing.
I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their
excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor
quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale
their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of
> the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com).
> They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it.
> Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond
> telling me it will ship in "a couple months".
>
> They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or
> Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered
> device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling
> apart.
>
> Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that
> they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What?
>
>
>
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> Tom Sargent
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Kellym
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: flight guide publications |
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They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of
portable units via Seattle Avionics.
On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote:
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I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change
in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what
their left foot is doing.
I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their
excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor
quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale
their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com> wrote:
> About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of
> the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com).
> They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it.
> Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond
> telling me it will ship in "a couple months".
>
> They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or
> Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered
> device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling
> apart.
>
> Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that
> they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What?
>
> --
> Tom Sargent
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sarg314(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:41 pm Post subject: flight guide publications |
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Is there something like foreflight that works with an android phone? Apparently they deal only with Apple stuff.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>
They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of portable units via Seattle Avionics.
On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote:
| Quote: | --> RV-List message posted by: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com (ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com)>
I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change
in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what
their left foot is doing.
I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their
excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor
quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale
their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com (sarg314(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of
the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com).
They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it.
Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond
telling me it will ship in "a couple months".
They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or
Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered
device that's hard to read in daylight. Â My old flight guide is falling
apart.
Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that
they hate? Â Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What?
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Tom Sargent
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gyoung
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:02 pm Post subject: flight guide publications |
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Garmin Pilot works on Android. They pretty much match features with Foreflight. I used it because I have a GDL-39 for ADSB. I display ADSB on my 796 in flight and realized I only use my Ipad for preflight planning. So I switched back to Foreflight when I had to renew. It’s a good product but I think Foreflight is better in some areas.
Regards,
Greg Young
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Sargent
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:41 PM
To: rv-list
Subject: Re: RV-List: flight guide publications
Is there something like foreflight that works with an android phone? Apparently they deal only with Apple stuff.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)> wrote: | Quote: |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>
They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of portable units via Seattle Avionics.
On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote: | Quote: |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com (ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com)>
I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change
in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what
their left foot is doing.
I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their
excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor
quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale
their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com (sarg314(at)gmail.com)> wrote: | Quote: |
About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of
the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com).
They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it.
Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond
telling me it will ship in "a couple months".
They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or
Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered
device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling
apart.
Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that
they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What?
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Tom Sargent
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napolin(at)me.com
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:07 pm Post subject: flight guide publications |
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I have been using the Garmin app on a Nexus 7 tablet. I have also used Foreflight, and are using WingX and Garmin on an iphone 5. The android garmin app is definitely not as nice as whats available on the Apple devices, however, its still good and better than the other android apps I have looked at. One nice thing about the Nexus 7 is that it has a good built in GPS. I have not had a problem with it losing satellites.
Nikolaos Napoli
[quote] On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:02 PM, "bigdog(at)bentwing.com" <bigdog(at)bentwing.com> wrote:
Garmin Pilot works on Android. They pretty much match features with Foreflight. I used it because I have a GDL-39 for ADSB. I display ADSB on my 796 in flight and realized I only use my Ipad for preflight planning. So I switched back to Foreflight when I had to renew. It’s a good product but I think Foreflight is better in some areas.
Regards,
Greg Young
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Sargent
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:41 PM
To: rv-list
Subject: Re: flight guide publications
Is there something like foreflight that works with an android phone? Apparently they deal only with Apple stuff.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of portable units via Seattle Avionics.
On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote:
I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change
in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what
their left foot is doing.
I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their
excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor
quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale
their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com> wrote:
About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of
the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com)
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FisherPaulA(at)johndeere.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 5:08 am Post subject: flight guide publications |
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It’s not specifically the Flight Guide, but for an Android device I recommend Naviator. But there is also FltPlan Mobile and Avare that have moving map displays. And FlyQ Pocket if you just want the Airport facilities data. I use Naviator on my Android tablet as my moving map (sectional replacement), but I use them all to one extent or another – that is, I haven’t deleted any of them yet! All but Naviator are free.
Paul A. Fisher
RV-7A N18PF
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Sargent
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:41 PM
To: rv-list
Subject: Re: RV-List: flight guide publications
Is there something like foreflight that works with an android phone? Apparently they deal only with Apple stuff.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com<mailto:kellym(at)aviating.com>> wrote:
They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of portable units via Seattle Avionics.
On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote:
I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change
in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what
their left foot is doing.
I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their
excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor
quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale
their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com<mailto:sarg314(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of
the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com<http://flightguide.com>).
They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it.
Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond
telling me it will ship in "a couple months".
They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or
Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered
device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling
apart.
Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that
they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What?
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Tom Sargent
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Tom Sargent
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