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 Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:42 am Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Gidday,
I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer..... |
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Hi Tony
You can look at my Nicos in two pages at below link. They look like yours. My large tool like yours came with a gauge, you can adjust crimp size. I am pretty sure 43.13 would give you dimension. If you are only going with one Nico, leave some cable sticking out, if two Niocos, then you can capture end with second. I use Teflon shrink tube, needs lots of heat and expensive, but holds up to nasty sharp end of cable.
I forget if you are building a mono, check out slick 3 Nico short tailwheel cable.
I mentioned it before, turnbuckles can get tangled together and shorten up, very bad because you lose rudder travel. See cause and resolution.
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=27732
Ron P.
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richard collings
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:44 am Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Hi Tony You must leave an inch long tail after the sleeve and shrink a short length of electric wire sleeving on to that end for protection.
Two things you can do also, conduct a proof load test, I don’t know the loads but Europa may, or you could drop an email to Andy Draper at the LAA engineering dept he would know. The other way of being certain is to build the cables with two Nicopress sleeves on each end. I know its more weight but “Piece of mind”is worth a few ounces .
Best of luck
Richard
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Gidday,
I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
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ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:55 pm Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Tony,
As Richard stated, I used two Nicopress Sleeves for " peace of mind".
Good recommendation.
Tim
Tim Ward12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 1/03/2014, at 6:39 am, "richard" <rcollings(at)talktalk.net (rcollings(at)talktalk.net)> wrote:
[quote] Hi Tony You must leave an inch long tail after the sleeve and shrink a short length of electric wire sleeving on to that end for protection.
Two things you can do also, conduct a proof load test, I don’t know the loads but Europa may, or you could drop an email to Andy Draper at the LAA engineering dept he would know. The other way of being certain is to build the cables with two Nicopress sleeves on each end. I know its more weight but “Piece of mind”is worth a few ounces .
Best of luck
Richard
From: Tony Renshaw (tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 10:41 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......comments requested .
Gidday,
I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
<2014_02_28_Distorted_Nicopress-12.jpeg><2014_02_28_Squeezed_Nicopress_End-14.jpeg>
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:23 pm Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Hi Tim,
So did you use two on all the ends, from pedal all the way thru to rudder?
TR
On 1 Mar 2014, at 8:52, Tim Ward <ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)> wrote:
[quote]Tony,
As Richard stated, I used two Nicopress Sleeves for " peace of mind".
Good recommendation.
Tim
Tim Ward12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 1/03/2014, at 6:39 am, "richard" <rcollings(at)talktalk.net (rcollings(at)talktalk.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Tony You must leave an inch long tail after the sleeve and shrink a short length of electric wire sleeving on to that end for protection.
Two things you can do also, conduct a proof load test, I don’t know the loads but Europa may, or you could drop an email to Andy Draper at the LAA engineering dept he would know. The other way of being certain is to build the cables with two Nicopress sleeves on each end. I know its more weight but “Piece of mind”is worth a few ounces .
Best of luck
Richard
From: Tony Renshaw (tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 10:41 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......comments requested .
Gidday,
I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
<2014_02_28_Distorted_Nicopress-12.jpeg><2014_02_28_Squeezed_Nicopress_End-14.jpeg>
<2014_02_28_Nicopress_Crimper_Jaws-11.jpeg>
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Yes I did. The 25mm long tail Richard talks about, instead of using tape I use an additional sleeve.
Tim
Tim Ward12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 1/03/2014, at 11:22 am, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com (tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]Hi Tim,
So did you use two on all the ends, from pedal all the way thru to rudder?
TR
On 1 Mar 2014, at 8:52, Tim Ward <ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)> wrote:
| Quote: | Tony,
As Richard stated, I used two Nicopress Sleeves for " peace of mind".
Good recommendation.
Tim
Tim Ward12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz (ward.t(at)xtra.co.nz)
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 1/03/2014, at 6:39 am, "richard" <rcollings(at)talktalk.net (rcollings(at)talktalk.net)> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Tony You must leave an inch long tail after the sleeve and shrink a short length of electric wire sleeving on to that end for protection.
Two things you can do also, conduct a proof load test, I don’t know the loads but Europa may, or you could drop an email to Andy Draper at the LAA engineering dept he would know. The other way of being certain is to build the cables with two Nicopress sleeves on each end. I know its more weight but “Piece of mind”is worth a few ounces .
Best of luck
Richard
From: Tony Renshaw (tonyrenshaw268(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 10:41 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......comments requested .
Gidday,
I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
<2014_02_28_Distorted_Nicopress-12.jpeg><2014_02_28_Squeezed_Nicopress_End-14.jpeg>
<2014_02_28_Nicopress_Crimper_Jaws-11.jpeg>
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:47 pm Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Tony
The final proof is in the testing.
AC43-13-1b chapter 7 gives a chart and testing procedure.
Attached is a picture of my cable test rig.
When I was doing the actual test I had a large ladder between myself and the victim. If they break they can go with a bang.
Regards
Lance Sandford
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| Quote: | Gidday,
I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:13 pm Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Hi Lance,
Thanks for responding. That looks a great tester. With the various holes, did you do the maths to calculate and what is the formula you use?
Good setup. I am impressed. I believe you are close to flying. Is that right?
TR.
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| Quote: | On 1 Mar 2014, at 11:46 am, Lance Sandford <sandford(at)melbpc.org.au> wrote:
Tony
The final proof is in the testing.
AC43-13-1b chapter 7 gives a chart and testing procedure.
Attached is a picture of my cable test rig.
When I was doing the actual test I had a large ladder between myself and the victim. If they break they can go with a bang.
Regards
Lance Sandford
> On 28/02/14 20:41, Tony Renshaw wrote:
> Gidday,
> I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
<Cable Testing.jpg>
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Tony
The beam is part of a sash clamp I used for making window frames many
years ago.
I set it in the nearest hole to give me the weight I required and
adjusted the rest with the much under used weights from my barbell, then
carefully lowered the jack and kept my fingers crossed.
I´m sure a Man of your ability can do the maths for whatever you have
available.
The check is 60% of 700 lbs for 3 minutes I think, but read the document.
Incidentally, the breaking strain of a well made Nicopress is about 1.5
times the minimum breaking strain of the cable hence I only used one on
the ends of my cables.
I was hoping to be flying by mid year until my neighbour conned me into
helping lay 160 meters of concrete during our 30 Degree, 70% humidity
days, which has slowed build progress a couple of Months.
Lance
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Hi Lance,
Thanks for responding. That looks a great tester. With the various holes, did you do the maths to calculate and what is the formula you use?
Good setup. I am impressed. I believe you are close to flying. Is that right?
TR.
Sent from my iPad
> On 1 Mar 2014, at 11:46 am, Lance Sandford <sandford(at)melbpc.org.au> wrote:
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> Tony
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> The final proof is in the testing.
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> AC43-13-1b chapter 7 gives a chart and testing procedure.
> Attached is a picture of my cable test rig.
> When I was doing the actual test I had a large ladder between myself and the victim. If they break they can go with a bang.
>
> Regards
>
> Lance Sandford
>> On 28/02/14 20:41, Tony Renshaw wrote:
>> Gidday,
>> I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
>> Regards
>> Tony Renshaw
> <Cable Testing.jpg>
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:30 pm Post subject: Nicopress Squeezes Using Aviation Approved Squeezer......com |
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Hi Lance,
What powerplant are you using again? I am wondering whether I fit my flap floor hinge hardware at this stage, or just rely on the redux pads, and put them in later? I figure filling and painting might be easier without obstructions, although I will be making up a cover I would imagine, or fill to hide them. Do you have a recommendation there? Also, I am struggling with my rudder cables but might be starting to see light at the wnd of the tunnel, to coin a phrase. I have both stainless steel cable I have bought from ACS and what appears to be Gal cable, probably from Europa but it is not labelled, and I truly dont know where it came from. It must have been Europa, but it definitely is NOT SS, as it is far more magnetic. Did u use the Europa cable or some other? I will do 2 crimps even though I know they are 1.5 the load of the cable, as cheap insurance in case something slips, but, it comes with its own pitfalls. If you dont leave a reasonable gap, it loads up the cable between them, as they pull in when you crimp them, as we all probably know. So, I put 2 butted together for one cable, and if I imagine the internal tension, that atatic load I could have created, I cant leave it as is. I dont know how many times I have done this, but at least I have turnbuckle to make the work a bit easier. I couldnt imagine doing this without then, and the tensioner in the manual, well, I didnt even bother to read the manual properly to digest how those things worked. So, I have mow run out of Nicopress,
& cable, at a very inconvenient time. I will get some locally, or ACS to send it out, but there packaging is ridiculous. I think they have a rates deal with their courier company to maximise space over weight, and rhen they charge you on volume. I have asked them to minimise the packaging but you get a box full of these air bladders to fill the space, and then a baby package within. Crazy!
Anyway, onward and upward. As for my maths, I have to be really good at my 3 x tables for profile management on descent, and ideally fast at it otherwise, I get high and fast, both of which can get a bit ugly.
So, watch your back with that concrete, says he who only learnt the benefits of a Larry Hoe after hand mixing about 1,000 wheelbarrow full of concrete. So, I at the local RSL to watch the Reds against the Waratahs, and need to eat first. Thks for the advice.
TR
| Quote: | On 1 Mar 2014, at 13:02, Lance Sandford <sandford(at)melbpc.org.au> wrote:
Tony
The beam is part of a sash clamp I used for making window frames many years ago.
I set it in the nearest hole to give me the weight I required and adjusted the rest with the much under used weights from my barbell, then carefully lowered the jack and kept my fingers crossed.
I´m sure a Man of your ability can do the maths for whatever you have available.
The check is 60% of 700 lbs for 3 minutes I think, but read the document.
Incidentally, the breaking strain of a well made Nicopress is about 1.5 times the minimum breaking strain of the cable hence I only used one on the ends of my cables.
I was hoping to be flying by mid year until my neighbour conned me into helping lay 160 meters of concrete during our 30 Degree, 70% humidity days, which has slowed build progress a couple of Months.
Lance
> On 01/03/14 11:12, Tony Renshaw wrote:
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> Hi Lance,
> Thanks for responding. That looks a great tester. With the various holes, did you do the maths to calculate and what is the formula you use?
> Good setup. I am impressed. I believe you are close to flying. Is that right?
> TR.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 1 Mar 2014, at 11:46 am, Lance Sandford <sandford(at)melbpc.org.au> wrote:
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>> Tony
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>> The final proof is in the testing.
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>> AC43-13-1b chapter 7 gives a chart and testing procedure.
>> Attached is a picture of my cable test rig.
>> When I was doing the actual test I had a large ladder between myself and the victim. If they break they can go with a bang.
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>> Regards
>>
>> Lance Sandford
>>
>>
>>> On 28/02/14 20:41, Tony Renshaw wrote:
>>> Gidday,
>>> I’ve attached 2 photos of my Nicopress squeezes, and 1 of the jaws of the tool. Any input gratefully received.
>>> Regards
>>> Tony Renshaw
>> <Cable Testing.jpg>
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Hi Tony
Nicos for steel and galvanized steel may not be meant for Stainless wire. I forget what was supplied by Europa, but I think I remember it was not correct. I used stainless cable and correct Tin plated Copper Nicos:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#nicopress-compatible-sleeve-crimpers/=qwrk00
Ron Parigoris
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