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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:59 pm    Post subject: Paperwork question Reply with quote

For the purposes of paperwork, would/should a paintshop be listed as "commercial assistance"?

Sorry if this is silly but after 30 years in the industry I've become jaded about paperwork having anything to do with the government.

TIA


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:06 pm    Post subject: Paperwork question Reply with quote

No.
Paint is not considered part of the build. Many of us have/will obtain
airworthiness certificates with no paint at all.
Also keep in mind that the RV-10 is approved as meeting the 51%
requirement, even with quick build as long as you don't go hire someone
to build it for you.
There are some folks that may cross that threshold, but I have watch
your build from quite a long time ago, and I can vouch for your doing
the work.

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Sorry if this is silly but after 30 years in the industry I've become jaded about paperwork.

For the purposes of paperwork, would/should a paintshop be listed as "commercial assistance"?

TIA

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:14 pm    Post subject: Paperwork question Reply with quote

No. The plane is not required to be painted. That is also not on the checklist, if I'm not mistaken.

Jesse Saint
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On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:59 PM, "woxofswa" <woxof(at)aol.com> wrote:



Sorry if this is silly but after 30 years in the industry I've become jaded about paperwork.

For the purposes of paperwork, would/should a paintshop be listed as "commercial assistance"?

TIA

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Mesa, AZ
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:29 pm    Post subject: Paperwork question Reply with quote

I agree with Jesse, but FSDO had me list painting as commercial assistance on the form.

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On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:



No. The plane is not required to be painted. That is also not on the checklist, if I'm not mistaken.

Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694

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> Sorry if this is silly but after 30 years in the industry I've become jaded about paperwork.
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> For the purposes of paperwork, would/should a paintshop be listed as "commercial assistance"?
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> TIA
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> Mesa, AZ
> Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse on gear. FWF complete.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Paperwork question Reply with quote

If FAA will issue an airworthiness certificate without any particular task being complete, then that task shouldn't be counted against 51%.  So no, painting shouldn't be listed as commercial assistance when you fill out 8130-12.


Bob, of course you pick your battles but if listing paint as commercial assistance caused any hardship, it'd be worth arguing. I hope it didn't matter much for you.

Dave Saylor
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Sorry if this is silly but after 30 years in the industry I've become jaded about paperwork.

For the purposes of paperwork, would/should a paintshop be listed as "commercial assistance"?

TIA

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Mesa, AZ
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Paperwork question Reply with quote

>>no, no, no ... But FSDO made me<<

Hence my jadidity Very Happy

Thanks for the responses, I guess I'll leave if off and add it if required.


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