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flyingphil2



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:51 am    Post subject: Europa glider tug Reply with quote
Further to an earlier posting, does anyone have any information or photos of the Europa being used as a glider tug in Germany?

It struck me at the last LAA rally that pretty much anything with wings and a 912S was being promoted as a glider tug and trying to tap into the Eurofox success.

I'm guessing that cooling could be a big issue on the Europa though?

Phil

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:35 am    Post subject: Europa glider tug Reply with quote
Phil
I believe that Erich Trombley visited with Walter Binder in Germany a couple of years back.  He might have some pictures.

Paul

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Europa glider tug Reply with quote
Paul wrote:

elieve that Erich Trombley visited with Walter Binder in Germany a
couple of years back.  He might have some pictures.

Phill, pictures attached. I hope you find them to be of value.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Europa glider tug Reply with quote
Hi Erich,

Many thanks for posting the images. Very useful.

Regards,

Phil

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:16 pm    Post subject: Europa glider tug Reply with quote
Hi Bruno,

Would you happen to know how Walter Binder achieved putting fuel tanks in the wings ?  In particular did he substitute the Blue for something impervious to fuel ?

Paul

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of UVTREITH
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 6:09 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: AW: Europa glider tug

Hi Phil,

Walter Binders plane D-EPWB is a Classic Monowheel Kit 149 with Wing Fuel Tanks, elect. Retractable Outrigger Legs and a Tail Wheel with a mounting plate on top for the tow clutch. I am not quite sure if this was from an old Cessna Taildragger or a Husky.
He is using his own landing strip for towing the smaller glider he is manufacturing.
He also manufactures the EB 28 /29. Some years ago he had to use a parachute by test flying.
Binder Motorenbau GmbH
Alter Frickenhäuser Weg 15
D-97645 Ostheim v. d. Rhön
Vertreten durch die Geschäftsführer Walter & Oliver Binder
Tel.: +49(0)9777 - 92 00
Fax: +49(0)9777 - 92 01
www.binder-flugmotorenbau.de
097779200(at)t-online.de (097779200(at)t-online.de)

I am sure that he can help you with some information.
Best Regards,

Bruno Reith /EA-Germany Partner
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Europa glider tug Reply with quote
Paul, Bruno
There's another German builder whose name I forget, lives just North of Hamburg and recently did his first flight.
He copied Walter Binder's wing design wrt the outriggers. He probably knows how Walter did the tanks
I visited him once years ago with Norbert Hoffmann, (Norbert has died sadly)
Graham


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Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2014, 20:15
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Hi Bruno,

Would you happen to know how Walter Binder achieved putting fuel tanks in the wings ? In particular did he substitute the Blue for something impervious to fuel ?

Paul

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of UVTREITH
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 6:09 AM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: AW: Europa glider tug

Hi Phil,

Walter Binders plane D-EPWB is a Classic Monowheel Kit 149 with Wing Fuel Tanks, elect. Retractable Outrigger Legs and a Tail Wheel with a mounting plate on top for the tow clutch. I am not quite sure if this was from an old Cessna Taildragger or a Husky.
He is using his own landing strip for towing the smaller glider he is manufacturing.
He also manufactures the EB 28 /29. Some years ago he had to use a parachute by test flying.
Binder Motorenbau GmbH
Alter Frickenhäuser Weg 15
D-97645 Ostheim v. d. Rhön
Vertreten durch die Geschäftsführer Walter & Oliver Binder
Tel.: +49(0)9777 - 92 00
Fax: +49(0)9777 - 92 01
www.binder-flugmotorenbau.de
097779200(at)t-online.de (097779200(at)t-online.de)

I am sure that he can help you with some information.
Best Regards,

Bruno Reith /EA-Germany Partner
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