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SV: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod

 
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arno-k(at)online.no
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:55 am    Post subject: SV: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod Reply with quote
Hi Group,

I can confirm that my non-fluorinated tank swelled and cracked. Removing the tank, I learned to my surprise that the HDPE material had become very brittle. That was not the case when I installed the fuel level sensor. Before buying a new fluorinated tank from Europa, I searched the net for information about HDPE tanks used in cars. What I found was that these tanks were fluorinated and in addition given a final inside layer of nylon to become 100% tight. I decided therefore not to buy a new tank from Europa, but instead build an aluminium tank.

Best regards
Arnold Kr. Hansen
Europa XS LN ABM


Fra: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] Pĺ vegne av Peter Zutrauen
Sendt: 27. mars 2014 17:09
Til: europa-list
Emne: Re: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod


...and whether they have been post-florinated/treated beyond the factory's treatment Smile

I thought the only change the factory made was to start florinating in the late 90's. I can only imagine that the original non-florinated tanks must have swollen up like balloons.

cheers,
Pete
A239


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com (fklein(at)orcasonline.com)> wrote:

On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info (pete(at)lawless.info)> wrote:




given that the original Europa supplied tanks were known to have been made of the 'wrong material' are Europa continuing to make tanks from the same 'wrong material' or are the newly supplied tanks made of something different. It may be that Europa are still working their way through a large original batch. Anyone know?


I certainly do not “know”, but it has been my understanding that at some point Europa changed from the original lo-density material to a hi-density material…can anyone can confirm that?



Apropos to this thread, it would seem to be of value if we could track the kit numbers and the accumulated flight times of those tanks which have failed, as well as any other aspects of the failures which may seem pertinent such as ambient temperatures, long-term storage while empty, etc.



Fred



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:35 am    Post subject: SV: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod Reply with quote
If you go to Sun & Fun ask Ivan. There won't be any of the originals now, I'm pretty sure.
Graham


From: Arnold Kr. Hansen <arno-k(at)online.no>
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014, 17:53
Subject: SV: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod


Hi Group,

I can confirm that my non-fluorinated tank swelled and cracked. Removing the tank, I learned to my surprise that the HDPE material had become very brittle. That was not the case when I installed the fuel level sensor. Before buying a new fluorinated tank from Europa, I searched the net for information about HDPE tanks used in cars. What I found was that these tanks were fluorinated and in addition given a final inside layer of nylon to become 100% tight. I decided therefore not to buy a new tank from Europa, but instead build an aluminium tank.

Best regards
Arnold Kr. Hansen
Europa XS LN ABM


Fra: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] PĂĄ vegne av Peter Zutrauen
Sendt: 27. mars 2014 17:09
Til: europa-list
Emne: Re: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod

 
...and whether they have been post-florinated/treated beyond the factory's treatment Smile

I thought the only change the factory made was to start florinating in the late 90's. I can only imagine that the original non-florinated tanks must have swollen up like balloons.

cheers,
Pete
A239


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com (fklein(at)orcasonline.com)> wrote:

On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Pete Lawless <pete(at)lawless.info (pete(at)lawless.info)> wrote:




given that the original Europa supplied tanks were known to have been made of the 'wrong material' are Europa continuing to make tanks from the same 'wrong material' or are the newly supplied tanks made of something different. It may be that Europa are still working their way through a large original batch. Anyone know?


I certainly do not “know”, but it has been my understanding that at some point Europa changed from the original lo-density material to a hi-density material…can anyone can confirm that?



Apropos to this thread, it would seem to be of value if we could track the kit numbers and the accumulated flight times of those tanks which have failed, as well as any other aspects of the failures which may seem pertinent such as ambient temperatures, long-term storage while empty, etc.



Fred




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