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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:11 am    Post subject: Half failed LEDs Reply with quote

I just removed about 8 blue LEDs from a string of lights that no longer
emitted light, but still have continuity. If any one wants them to
investigate, I'll mail them out.
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Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN

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understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:19 am    Post subject: Half failed LEDs Reply with quote

At 07:09 AM 4/21/2014, you wrote:
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I just removed about 8 blue LEDs from a string of lights that no
longer emitted light, but still have continuity. If any one wants
them to investigate, I'll mail them out.

When you measure them with an ohmmeter, do they
show the same or similar resistance for either
polarity of the test leads?

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:35 am    Post subject: Half failed LEDs Reply with quote

Most of them were in the 4-8k range both ways. A couple were in the 90k
range both ways, and one was about 90k one way and about 150k the other.
They were in series with other LEDs and all carried enough current to
allow the other LEDs to continue to light.

Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN

The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)

On 04/22/2014 08:18 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
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<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>

At 07:09 AM 4/21/2014, you wrote:
>
>
> I just removed about 8 blue LEDs from a string of lights that no
> longer emitted light, but still have continuity. If any one wants
> them to investigate, I'll mail them out.

When you measure them with an ohmmeter, do they
show the same or similar resistance for either
polarity of the test leads?

Bob . . .



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: Half failed LEDs Reply with quote

At 10:31 AM 4/22/2014, you wrote:
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Most of them were in the 4-8k range both ways. A couple were in the
90k range both ways, and one was about 90k one way and about 150k the other.
They were in series with other LEDs and all carried enough current
to allow the other LEDs to continue to light.

Interesting. I'm not familiar with the failure modes
in LEDs . . . so getting first hand look at the
parts would probably not be useful. The fact that
your readings were so high but with conductivity in
both directions suggests that there's some degree
of P/N junction activity going on . . . in other
words, I suspect they failed in some low energy
event as opposed to high energy that tends to fuse
things into more solid pieces of material.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:47 pm    Post subject: Half failed LEDs Reply with quote

They just weren't lit one day when I looked at them. They were on 24/7.
I'll just recycle them, unless someone else wants them.

Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN

The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)

On 04/22/2014 04:59 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
Quote:

<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>

At 10:31 AM 4/22/2014, you wrote:
>
>
> Most of them were in the 4-8k range both ways. A couple were in the
> 90k range both ways, and one was about 90k one way and about 150k the
> other.
> They were in series with other LEDs and all carried enough current to
> allow the other LEDs to continue to light.

Interesting. I'm not familiar with the failure modes
in LEDs . . . so getting first hand look at the
parts would probably not be useful. The fact that
your readings were so high but with conductivity in
both directions suggests that there's some degree
of P/N junction activity going on . . . in other
words, I suspect they failed in some low energy
event as opposed to high energy that tends to fuse
things into more solid pieces of material.

Bob . . .



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