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riddon(at)sent.com
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:54 am Post subject: Whats new?

Hi Europhiles.



Just logged back on after being absent since last October. Anything exciting happened in the meantime? Mods, SB's AD's etc?



Hope to be flying again soon. 



Richard Iddon



G-RIXS

davidjoyce(at)doctors.org
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:59 am Post subject: Whats new?

Richard, Welcome back! One thing that you might have 

missed whilst floating around in the Pacific (or was it 

the Indian Ocean?) is that you now need an 8.33khz radio 

to go through class C or above airspace anywhere in 

Europe. You can fly round that in most places but there 

are for instance great chunks of Holland that are class C. 

Hope to see you on some of our trips. Regards, David

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<riddon(at)sent.com>

 

 Hi Europhiles.

 

 Just logged back on after being absent since last 

October. Anything exciting happened in the meantime? 

Mods, SB's AD's etc?

 

 Hope to be flying again soon. 

 

 Richard Iddon

 

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riddon(at)sent.com
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:33 am Post subject: Whats new?

Hi David.

I thought I had got until Jan 2018 to do the fit but if it is now mandatory for class C then I guess I had better bite the bullet & fit one. 

Thanks.

Richard. 

On 25 Apr 2014, at 13:59, David Joyce <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

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 Richard, Welcome back! One thing that you might have missed whilst floating around in the Pacific (or was it the Indian Ocean?) is that you now need an 8.33khz radio to go through class C or above airspace anywhere in Europe. You can fly round that in most places but there are for instance great chunks of Holland that are class C. Hope to see you on some of our trips. Regards, David

 On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 12:53:31 +0100

 Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

> 

> Hi Europhiles.

> Just logged back on after being absent since last October. Anything exciting happened in the meantime? Mods, SB's AD's etc?

> Hope to be flying again soon. Richard Iddon

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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:13 am Post subject: Whats new?

Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?



I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so far. 



Richard Iddon



G-RIXS



On 25 Apr 2014, at 14:32, Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

dpark748(at)me.com
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:20 pm Post subject: Whats new?

I have Funkwerk 8.33 very happy with it and matching Mode S tx

Dave. G-LDVO



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		   On 25 Apr 2014, at 20:12, Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

 

 I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so far. 

 

 Richard Iddon

 

 G-RIXS

 

 On 25 Apr 2014, at 14:32, Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:28 pm Post subject: Whats new?

Another thumbs up for Funkwerk.......

from the other one!

 



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I have Funkwerk 8.33 very happy with it and matching Mode S tx

Dave. G-LDVO



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		   On 25 Apr 2014, at 20:12, Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com (riddon(at)sent.com)> wrote:

 

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 Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

 

 I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so far. 

 

 Richard Iddon

 

  G-RIXS

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:36 pm Post subject: Whats new?

Ditto had mine for 5years now. Never had problem with it . 



Danny G-ceri



david park <dpark748(at)me.com> wrote:




I have Funkwerk 8.33 very happy with it and matching Mode S tx

Dave. G-LDVO



Sent from my iPad



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		   On 25 Apr 2014, at 20:12, Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

 

 I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so far. 

 

 Richard Iddon

 

 G-RIXS

 

 On 25 Apr 2014, at 14:32, Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

pjlevi(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:46 pm Post subject: Whats new?

You can now leave your existing radio in the panel for use on all the old frequencies and carry a portable 8.33khz one in the aircraft which you need only use when on 8.33khz frequencies.  ICOM have various approved models.  

  



The existing aircraft radio licence extends to include an additional portable one provided it is not used to transmit outside the aircraft.

  



  Philip Levi



G-BWWB.

 



 



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 Hi Europhiles.

 

 Just logged back on after being absent since last October. Anything exciting happened in the meantime? Mods, SB's AD's etc?

 

 Hope to be flying again soon.

 

 Richard Iddon

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:02 am Post subject: Whats new?

Richard, there is a list on the LAA site of which are 

accepted in this country. No personal recommendation as I 

am replacing an SL 30 regards, David, GXSDJ

On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:12:47 +0100

  Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

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<riddon(at)sent.com>

 

 Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 

Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

 

 I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so 

far. 

 

 Richard Iddon

 

 G-RIXS

 

 On 25 Apr 2014, at 14:32, Richard Iddon 

<riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

 

 

 

 

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kennethatkinson178(at)bti
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:46 am Post subject: Whats new?

Funkwerk with associated wiring harness from LX avionics has worked for me.

Ken  Atkinson

G-CEKV



     

   From: Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com>

 To: Europa Forum <europa-list(at)matronics.com> 

 Sent: Friday, 25 April 2014, 20:12

 Subject: Re: Whats new?

  

 

--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com (riddon(at)sent.com)>



Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?



I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so far. 



Richard Iddon



G-RIXS



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alanb(at)dpy01.co.uk
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:38 am Post subject: Whats new?

I run a Funkwork ATR8.33 OLED model for a year. No problem reading the display from my perspective but itâ€™s not the yellow version.



Pete, interested to hear how you found, and solved the interference from the Dynon please.

Alan

On 27 Apr 2014, at 10:15, pjeffers(at)talktalk.net (pjeffers(at)talktalk.net) wrote:

[quote]Hi Richard,

I have just fitted a TRIG 8.33 panel mount radio and am please with the performance so far.  Not had it long so no idea of long term reliability.  What I will say is that Trig, being UK based (Edinburgh,) are extremely helpful with any queries you may have during installation and initial setting up.  They speak a kind of English which I can understand and on one occasion even loaned me a replacement unit as aid to diagnosis of an interference problem.  In the end that turned out to be generated by a Dynon D1, so nothing to do with the radio.

Yes I recommend TRIG. 

The only negative I have heard about other makes is I think the Funkwerk unit with yellow display which I have had reported as very difficult to read in sunlight.

Pete



From: David Joyce (davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk)

Sent: â€ŽSaturdayâ€Ž, â€Ž26â€Ž â€ŽAprilâ€Ž â€Ž2014 â€Ž19â€Ž:â€Ž01

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Richard, there is a list on the LAA site of which are 

accepted in this country. No personal recommendation as I 

am replacing an SL 30 regards, David, GXSDJ

On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:12:47 +0100

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 Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 

Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

 

 I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so 

far. 

 

 Richard Iddon

 

 G-RIXS

 

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<riddon(at)sent.com (riddon(at)sent.com)> wrote:

 

 

 

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:08 am Post subject: Whats new?

I have a Funkwerk supplied by Airworld [UK] Ltd works very well. I noted  that a suggestion was made to carry  a hand held radio with 8.33 Mhz  separation, I did this way back when 760 set were required to replace 720s [God  Iâ€˜m getting old] however I found that it was not accepted in German air space. I  used it once in anger in  France after suspected radio failure-what a  palaver . It turned out that the aircraft radios were fine , my wifeâ€™s head set  had been uncomfortable so we had swopped, I learnt a lesson there!

   Richard Collings

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 Funkwerk with associated wiring harness from LX avionics has worked for  me.

  

 Ken  Atkinson

  

 G-CEKV



    

From: Richard Iddon  <riddon(at)sent.com>

To:  Europa Forum <europa-list(at)matronics.com> 

Sent: Friday, 25 April 2014,  20:12

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Anyone got any  recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and  replace a microair?



I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so  far. 



Richard Iddon



G-RIXS



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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:31 am Post subject: Whats new?

I don't have a trig radio yet but I do have a trig transponder. There support is fantastic I blew the transponder up when I fitted it (don't ask but completely my fault). Trig replaced it free of charge even though they were able to say exactly what I had done to it. 

I will be buying the Trig radio.

I have a VOR and ILS connected to my current radio and fear I will have to leave it in unless anyone knows of a 8.33 radio which will do the same and not leave me destitute.

Thanks 



Kevin Challis



On 27 Apr 2014, at 10:15, <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net (pjeffers(at)talktalk.net)> wrote:

[quote]      Hi Richard,

I have just fitted a TRIG 8.33 panel mount radio and am please with the performance so far.  Not had it long so no idea of long term reliability.  What I will say is that Trig, being UK based (Edinburgh,) are extremely helpful with any queries you may have during installation and initial setting up.  They speak a kind of English which I can understand and on one occasion even loaned me a replacement unit as aid to diagnosis of an interference problem.  In the end that turned out to be generated by a Dynon D1, so nothing to do with the radio. 

Yes I recommend TRIG.  

The only negative I have heard about other makes is I think the Funkwerk unit with yellow display which I have had reported as very difficult to read in sunlight.

Pete



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Richard, there is a list on the LAA site of which are 

accepted in this country. No personal recommendation as I 

am replacing an SL 30 regards, David, GXSDJ

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 Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 

Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

 

 I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so 

far. 

 

 Richard Iddon

 

 G-RIXS

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:04 am Post subject: Whats new?

Kevin, I think your solution is a good one. I too had a 

nav/com with twin VOR and ILS. Fun to play with but not 

much practical use until EASA allow IFR in permit aircraft 

or all your GPSs pack up and you get caught in IFR way 

from anywhere (unlikely unless you plan to fly to Oz - 

when it has happened to nearly all going through the 

tropical zone). Mine was an SL30, whose direct Garmin 

replacement turns out to be around 1cm fatter. This led me 

to totally redesigning and rewiring most of my panel, an 

ongoing process that has taken longer than the original 

panel fit! With wisdom of hindsight it would probably have 

been smarter to keep the SL30 for Nav & back up com and 

use a Trig for standard com. I have incidentally got a 

spare SL30 in perfect working order that I would be happy 

to part with to a good home for a modest donation to my 

favourite charity. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ



On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:30:39 +0100

  Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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		   I don't have a trig radio yet but I do have a trig 

transponder. There support is fantastic I blew the 

transponder up when I fitted it (don't ask but completely 

my fault). Trig replaced it free of charge even though 

they were able to say exactly what I had done to it. 

 

 I will be buying the Trig radio.

 

 I have a VOR and ILS connected to my current radio and 

fear I will have to leave it in unless anyone knows of a 

8.33 radio which will do the same and not leave me 

destitute.

 

 Thanks 

 

 Kevin Challis

 

 

> On 27 Apr 2014, at 10:15, <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> wrote:

> 

> Hi Richard,

> I have just fitted a TRIG 8.33 panel mount radio and am 

>please with the performance so far.  Not had it long so 

>no idea of long term reliability.  What I will say is 

>that Trig, being UK based (Edinburgh,) are extremely 

>helpful with any queries you may have during installation 

>and initial setting up.  They speak a kind of English 

>which I can understand and on one occasion even loaned me 

>a replacement unit as aid to diagnosis of an interference 

>problem.  In the end that turned out to be generated by a 

>Dynon D1, so nothing to do with the radio.

> Yes I recommend TRIG. 

> The only negative I have heard about other makes is I 

>think the Funkwerk unit with yellow display which I have 

>had reported as very difficult to read in sunlight.

> Pete

> 

> From: David Joyce

> Sent: Ã¢â‚¬Å½SaturdayÃ¢â‚¬Å½, Ã¢â‚¬Å½26Ã¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½AprilÃ¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½2014 

>Ã¢â‚¬Å½19Ã¢â‚¬Å½:Ã¢â‚¬Å½01

> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

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> 

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> 

> Richard, there is a list on the LAA site of which are 

> accepted in this country. No personal recommendation as 

>I 

> am replacing an SL 30 regards, David, GXSDJ

> 

> 

> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:12:47 +0100

>   Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

> > 

> ><riddon(at)sent.com>

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>8.33 

> >Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

> > 

> > I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so 

> >far. 

> > 

> > Richard Iddon

> > 

> > G-RIXS

> > 

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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:29 am Post subject: Whats new?

David



You can do your training / flight test for your IMC in a permit.



I would prefer to be in court for doing IFR in a permit plane than dead 

Yes I know you should never get in that situation but......,  



And fingers crossed IFR in a permit is on the horizon. Well within my lifetime maybe.



Kevin Challis

 	  Quote: 	
		   On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:03, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 Kevin, I think your solution is a good one. I too had a nav/com with twin VOR and ILS. Fun to play with but not much practical use until EASA allow IFR in permit aircraft or all your GPSs pack up and you get caught in IFR way from anywhere (unlikely unless you plan to fly to Oz - when it has happened to nearly all going through the tropical zone). Mine was an SL30, whose direct Garmin replacement turns out to be around 1cm fatter. This led me to totally redesigning and rewiring most of my panel, an ongoing process that has taken longer than the original panel fit! With wisdom of hindsight it would probably have been smarter to keep the SL30 for Nav & back up com and use a Trig for standard com. I have incidentally got a spare SL30 in perfect working order that I would be happy to part with to a good home for a modest donation to my favourite charity. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ

 

 On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:30:39 +0100

 Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't have a trig radio yet but I do have a trig transponder. There support is fantastic I blew the transponder up when I fitted it (don't ask but completely my fault). Trig replaced it free of charge even though they were able to say exactly what I had done to it. I will be buying the Trig radio.

> I have a VOR and ILS connected to my current radio and fear I will have to leave it in unless anyone knows of a 8.33 radio which will do the same and not leave me destitute.

> Thanks Kevin Challis

>> On 27 Apr 2014, at 10:15, <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> wrote:

>> Hi Richard,

>> I have just fitted a TRIG 8.33 panel mount radio and am please with the performance so far.  Not had it long so no idea of long term reliability.  What I will say is that Trig, being UK based (Edinburgh,) are extremely helpful with any queries you may have during installation and initial setting up.  They speak a kind of English which I can understand and on one occasion even loaned me a replacement unit as aid to diagnosis of an interference problem.  In the end that turned out to be generated by a Dynon D1, so nothing to do with the radio.

>> Yes I recommend TRIG. The only negative I have heard about other makes is I think the Funkwerk unit with yellow display which I have had reported as very difficult to read in sunlight.

>> Pete

>> From: David Joyce

>> Sent: Ã¢â‚¬Å½SaturdayÃ¢â‚¬Å½, Ã¢â‚¬Å½26Ã¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½AprilÃ¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½2014 Ã¢â‚¬Å½19Ã¢â‚¬Å½:Ã¢â‚¬Å½01

>> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

>> 

>> Richard, there is a list on the LAA site of which are accepted in this country. No personal recommendation as I am replacing an SL 30 regards, David, GXSDJ

>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:12:47 +0100

>>  Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

>> > 

>> > > Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 >Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

>> > > I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so >far. > > Richard Iddon

>> > > G-RIXS

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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:40 am Post subject: Whats new?

Kevin, Yes I am aware of that and would have done it if 

the syllabus fitted a bit better with the practicalities 

of how I would fly mine if unavoidably caught in IMC. As 

it is I just practice key elements when occasion arises 

(legally of course!) regards, David



On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:28:38 +0100

  Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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<cakeykev(at)gmail.com>

 

 David

 

 You can do your training / flight test for your IMC in a 

permit.

 

 I would prefer to be in court for doing IFR in a permit 

plane than dead 

 Yes I know you should never get in that situation 

but......,  

 

 And fingers crossed IFR in a permit is on the horizon. 

Well within my lifetime maybe.

 

 Kevin Challis

 

 

> On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:03, "David Joyce" 

><davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk> wrote:

> 

> 

><davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk>

> 

> 

> Kevin, I think your solution is a good one. I too had a 

>nav/com with twin VOR and ILS. Fun to play with but not 

>much practical use until EASA allow IFR in permit 

>aircraft or all your GPSs pack up and you get caught in 

>IFR way from anywhere (unlikely unless you plan to fly to 

>Oz - when it has happened to nearly all going through the 

>tropical zone). Mine was an SL30, whose direct Garmin 

>replacement turns out to be around 1cm fatter. This led 

>me to totally redesigning and rewiring most of my panel, 

>an ongoing process that has taken longer than the 

>original panel fit! With wisdom of hindsight it would 

>probably have been smarter to keep the SL30 for Nav & 

>back up com and use a Trig for standard com. I have 

>incidentally got a spare SL30 in perfect working order 

>that I would be happy to part with to a good home for a 

>modest donation to my favourite charity. Regards, David 

>Joyce, GXSDJ

> 

> On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:30:39 +0100

> Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>> I don't have a trig radio yet but I do have a trig 

>>transponder. There support is fantastic I blew the 

>>transponder up when I fitted it (don't ask but completely 

>>my fault). Trig replaced it free of charge even though 

>>they were able to say exactly what I had done to it. I 

>>will be buying the Trig radio.

>> I have a VOR and ILS connected to my current radio and 

>>fear I will have to leave it in unless anyone knows of a 

>>8.33 radio which will do the same and not leave me 

>>destitute.

>> Thanks Kevin Challis

>>> On 27 Apr 2014, at 10:15, <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net> wrote:

>>> Hi Richard,

>>> I have just fitted a TRIG 8.33 panel mount radio and am 

>>>please with the performance so far.  Not had it long so 

>>>no idea of long term reliability.  What I will say is 

>>>that Trig, being UK based (Edinburgh,) are extremely 

>>>helpful with any queries you may have during installation 

>>>and initial setting up.  They speak a kind of English 

>>>which I can understand and on one occasion even loaned me 

>>>a replacement unit as aid to diagnosis of an interference 

>>>problem.  In the end that turned out to be generated by a 

>>>Dynon D1, so nothing to do with the radio.

>>> Yes I recommend TRIG. The only negative I have heard 

>>>about other makes is I think the Funkwerk unit with 

>>>yellow display which I have had reported as very 

>>>difficult to read in sunlight.

>>> Pete

>>> From: David Joyce

>>> Sent: Ã¢â‚¬Å½SaturdayÃ¢â‚¬Å½, Ã¢â‚¬Å½26Ã¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½AprilÃ¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½2014 

>>>Ã¢â‚¬Å½19Ã¢â‚¬Å½:Ã¢â‚¬Å½01

>>> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com

>>> 

>>><davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk>

>>> Richard, there is a list on the LAA site of which are 

>>>accepted in this country. No personal recommendation as I 

>>>am replacing an SL 30 regards, David, GXSDJ

>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:12:47 +0100

>>>  Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com> wrote:

>>> > 

>>>><riddon(at)sent.com>

>>> > > Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 

>>>8.33 >Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a 

>>>microair?

>>> > > I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk 

>>>so >far. > > Richard Iddon

>>> > > G-RIXS

>>> > > On 25 Apr 2014, at 14:32, Richard Iddon 

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Would it be legal to turn the engine off then go up in a thermal ?

Graham



        From: David Joyce <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk>

 To: europa-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Sunday, 27 April 2014, 16:39

 Subject: Re: Whats new?

  

 

--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk (davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk)>

Kevin, Yes I am aware of that and would have done it if the syllabus fitted a bit better with the practicalities of how I would fly mine if unavoidably caught in IMC. As it is I just practice key elements when occasion arises (legally of course!) regards, David



On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:28:38 +0100

 Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com (cakeykev(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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		   --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com (cakeykev(at)gmail.com)>

 

 David

 

 You can do your training / flight test for your IMC in a permit.

 

 I would prefer to be in court for doing IFR in a permit plane than dead 

 Yes I know you should never get in that situation but......,  

 And  fingers crossed IFR in a permit is on the horizon. Well within my lifetime maybe.

 

 Kevin Challis

 

 

> On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:03, "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk (davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk)> wrote:

> 

> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk (davidjoyce(at)doctors.org.uk)>

> 

> 

> Kevin, I think your solution is a good one. I too had a nav/com with twin VOR and ILS. Fun to play with but not much practical use until EASA allow IFR in permit aircraft or all your GPSs pack up and you get caught in IFR way from anywhere (unlikely unless you plan to fly to Oz - when it has happened to nearly all going through the tropical zone). Mine was an SL30, whose direct Garmin replacement turns out to  be around 1cm fatter. This led me to totally redesigning and rewiring most of my panel, an ongoing process that has taken longer than the original panel fit! With wisdom of hindsight it would probably have been smarter to keep the SL30 for Nav & back up com and use a Trig for standard com. I have incidentally got a spare SL30 in perfect working order that I would be happy to part with to a good home for a modest donation to my favourite charity. Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ

> 

> On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:30:39 +0100

> Kevin Challis <cakeykev(at)gmail.com (cakeykev(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

>> I don't have a trig radio yet but I do have a trig transponder. There support is fantastic I blew the transponder up when I fitted it (don't ask but completely my fault). Trig replaced it free of charge even though they were able to say exactly what I had done to it. I  will be buying the Trig radio.

>> I have a VOR and ILS connected to my current radio and fear I will have to leave it in unless anyone knows of a 8.33 radio which will do the same and not leave me destitute.

>> Thanks Kevin Challis

>>> On 27 Apr 2014, at 10:15, <pjeffers(at)talktalk.net (pjeffers(at)talktalk.net)> wrote:

>>> Hi Richard,

>>> I have just fitted a TRIG 8.33 panel mount radio and am please with the performance so far.  Not had it long so no idea of long term reliability.  What I will say is that Trig, being UK based (Edinburgh,) are extremely helpful with any queries you may have during installation and initial setting up.  They speak a kind of English which I can understand and on one occasion even loaned me a replacement unit as aid to diagnosis of an interference problem.  In the end that  turned out to be generated by a Dynon D1, so nothing to do with the radio.

>>> Yes I recommend TRIG. The only negative I have heard about other makes is I think the Funkwerk unit with yellow display which I have had reported as very difficult to read in sunlight.

>>> Pete

>>> From: David Joyce

>>> Sent: Ã¢â‚¬Å½SaturdayÃ¢â‚¬Å½, Ã¢â‚¬Å½26Ã¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½AprilÃ¢â‚¬Å½ Ã¢â‚¬Å½2014 Ã¢â‚¬Å½19Ã¢â‚¬Å½:Ã¢â‚¬Å½01

>>> To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)

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>>> Richard, there is a list on the LAA site of which are accepted in this country. No personal recommendation as I am replacing an SL 30 regards,  David, GXSDJ

>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 20:12:47 +0100

>>>  Richard Iddon <riddon(at)sent.com (riddon(at)sent.com)> wrote:

>>> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Iddon 

>>>> <riddon(at)sent.com (riddon(at)sent.com)>

>>> > > Anyone got any recommendations or otherwise for an 8.33 >Mhz radio to fit a 2.25in hole and replace a microair?

>>> > > I have spotted Trig, Dittel, MGL, Becker, Funkwerk so >far. > > Richard Iddon

>>> > > G-RIXS

>>> > > On 25 Apr 2014, at 14:32, Richard Iddon 

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Hi Richard,



I can also recommend the Dittel KRT 2, which replaced my Microair and does a good job. It is also an extraordinary lightweight.



Regarding IFR in a permit aircraft: EASA has nothing to do with that as far as I know, because the permit aircraft fly under national law. There exist general entry permissions e. g. for Germany (AIP GEN 1-17), but those are limited to Day/VFR only. I'm afraid it's not that easy, at least when it comes to flying abroad.



Regards

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:51 am Post subject: Whats new?

Roland, We have been repeatedly told that EASA or some 

other bit of the European aviation set up is moving to 

harmonise all European regulations and that one effect of 

this is likely to be allowing Permit aircraft to fly IMC 

if suitably equipped and pilot qualified.

Regards, David Joyce

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 Hi Richard,

 

 I can also recommend the Dittel KRT 2, which replaced my 

Microair and does a good job. It is also an extraordinary 

lightweight.

 

 Regarding IFR in a permit aircraft: EASA has nothing to 

do with that as far as I know, because the permit 

aircraft fly under national law. There exist general 

entry permissions e. g. for Germany (AIP GEN 1-17), but 

those are limited to Day/VFR only. I'm afraid it's not 

that easy, at least when it comes to flying abroad.

 

 Gegards

 Roland

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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:27 am Post subject: Whats new?

as it is in NA curently, good news!



Cheers,

Pete



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 Roland, We have been repeatedly told that EASA or some other bit of the European aviation set up is moving to harmonise all European regulations and that one effect of this is likely to be allowing Permit aircraft to fly IMC if suitably equipped and pilot qualified.

   Regards, David Joyce

 

 

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 Hi Richard,

 

 I can also recommend the Dittel KRT 2, which replaced my Microair and does a good job. It is also an extraordinary lightweight.

 

 Regarding IFR in a permit aircraft: EASA has nothing to do with that as far as I know, because the permit aircraft fly under national law. There exist general entry permissions e. g. for Germany (AIP GEN 1-17), but those are limited to Day/VFR only. I'm afraid it's not that easy, at least when it comes to flying abroad.

   

 Gegards

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