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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 9:59 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how
much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time?
Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead
because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.

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Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one
with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 2:57 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

I've got some D cells on the shelf that came out of my old 121.5 ELT
years ago, due to 'timing out'. The date code is 2008. They all still
show well above 1.5 volts. Alkaline batteries last a looong time sitting
'on the shelf', which is (hopefully) what they are doing in an ELT.

Without debating the merits of 406 ELTs, sometimes 'new' really means
'more money' for the guy who paid the regulator.

Charlie
On 5/23/2014 4:35 PM, Bruce Swayze wrote:
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You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how
much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time?
Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead
because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my
2-cents.

At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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> <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
>
> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one
> with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus



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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:10 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

On 5/23/2014 6:56 PM, Charlie England wrote:
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I've got some D cells on the shelf that came out of my old 121.5 ELT
years ago, due to 'timing out'. The date code is 2008. They all still
show well above 1.5 volts.
You might put a load on them .... like a flashlight bulb ... and see the

voltage drop a lot. I wouldn't put those batteries where you might need
to depend on them.
Linn
Quote:
Alkaline batteries last a looong time sitting 'on the shelf', which is
(hopefully) what they are doing in an ELT.

Without debating the merits of 406 ELTs, sometimes 'new' really means
'more money' for the guy who paid the regulator.

Charlie
On 5/23/2014 4:35 PM, Bruce Swayze wrote:
>
>
> You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how
> much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time?
> Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead
> because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my
> 2-cents.
>
> At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
>>
>> <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
>>
>> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one
>> with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mike Kraus
>

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:22 pm    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

I had to replace the lithium batteries in my 406 ELT to obtain an
airworthiness certificate. I bought the 406 ELT too early and couldn't
prove the date on the batteries.

I purchased a $5 D-Cell flashlight on sale at the local grocery store
and added a $5 6-Volt LED to keep my old $70 lithium batteries in. Best
damn $5 flashlight ever.

john
On 5/23/2014 2:35 PM, Bruce Swayze wrote:
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You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how
much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time?
Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead
because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my
2-cents.

At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
>
> <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
>
> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one
> with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus


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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 5:35 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144. Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year.... 4 D-cell batteries are under $10. So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!

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On May 23, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Bruce Swayze <swayze(at)europa.com> wrote:



You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.

At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
>
>
> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus








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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 6:53 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

Have had nothing but trouble from leaking D Cells. By the time I have pulled off the wing tip and cleaned up the mess, $144 looks reasonable, very reasonable.

I believe (not near manual) my new ELT does battery check on startup. Sweet!

Let me see, a battery for the ELT, ELT panel indicator, the Dynon, GPS, Intercom, and flashlight. Hmmmm, maybe I need to rethink all this ?u

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The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144. Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year.... 4 D-cell batteries are under $10. So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!

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On May 23, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Bruce Swayze <swayze(at)europa.com> wrote:



You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.

At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
>
>
> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
>
> Thanks
> -Mike Kraus


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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:39 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

Don't forget that we're only allowed to use HALF the useful life an ELT
battery or batteries.
On 5/24/2014 8:33 AM, Michael Kraus wrote:
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The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144. Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year.... 4 D-cell batteries are under $10. So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!

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> On May 23, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Bruce Swayze <swayze(at)europa.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.
>
> At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries? I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mike Kraus
>



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2014 7:50 am    Post subject: 406 ELT and batteries Reply with quote

In the past I've rolled my own battery to replace the official ELT battery. Taking the wrapper off of the old one revealed nine ordinary 9 volts. Easy decision. 

On Saturday, May 24, 2014, Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net (n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net)> wrote:
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The replacement battery from AS&S is currently $144.  Divided by 5 is $28.80 per year....  4 D-cell batteries are under $10.  So it's about 3X more expensive and less readily available as you can buy D-cell batteries anywhere!

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> On May 23, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Bruce Swayze <[url=javascript:;]swayze(at)europa.com[/url]> wrote:
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> --> RV-List message posted by: Bruce Swayze <[url=javascript:;]swayze(at)europa.com[/url]>
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> You have to remember, the lithium batteries will last 5 years. So how much would one spend on regular D-cell batteries during that time? Last thing you want is to have a mayday and your batteries are dead because you forgot to replace them. Something to think about. Just my 2-cents.
>
> At 10:56 AM 5/23/2014, you wrote:
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>> Do they make a 406 ELT with D cell batteries?  I can only find one with the expensive lithium replaceable batteries....
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Mike Kraus
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