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rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:44 am Post subject: Inverting Oil Cooler |
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Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler?
Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please?
Any photos would be appreciated please.
Warm regards
Patrick
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Kellym
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:59 am Post subject: Inverting Oil Cooler |
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Consider that you might create more problems than you solve.
You would need longer oil lines, right angle fittings that could impede
flow, and likely chance of trapping air in the oil cooler.
On 5/27/2014 6:37 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote:
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Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler?
Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please?
Any photos would be appreciated please.
Warm regards
Patrick
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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:19 am Post subject: Inverting Oil Cooler |
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In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces the
cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes
are not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of the
cooler.
For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back at
the engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontal
firewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to cooler
butterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler also
has a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown in
this photo.
Carl
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cooprv7(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:31 am Post subject: Inverting Oil Cooler |
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I would also add that for as frequently as most people change the oil, it probably would not provide much, if any, benefit.
Marcus
40286, 680 hours
On May 27, 2014, at 9:58, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
Consider that you might create more problems than you solve.
You would need longer oil lines, right angle fittings that could impede flow, and likely chance of trapping air in the oil cooler.
| Quote: | On 5/27/2014 6:37 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote:
Has anyone contemplated or installed their oil cooler upside down compared to the Vans recommended standard installation, to enable residual oil to be drained from the oil cooler during an oil change, without the need to remove the cooler?
Wanting to know if this is feasible or practicable please?
Any photos would be appreciated please.
Warm regards
Patrick
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flying-nut(at)cfl.rr.com
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: Inverting Oil Cooler |
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That's an excellent way to mount the cooler, but my exhaust hangars would go right through the fwd right corner of the cooler. Do you have a different way of mounting the hangars or a different exhaust setup???
Linn
On 5/27/2014 10:18 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
[quote] [quote]In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces the cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes are not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of the cooler. For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back at the engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontal firewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to cooler butterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler also has a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown in this photo. Carl --
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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:49 am Post subject: Inverting Oil Cooler |
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I have the stock Van’s engine and Vetterman exhaust. I did not have a problem but I remember cutting one of the exhaust mount threaded rods shorter so that it did not hit the bottom of the cooler. I looked for a photo with all the stuff mounted but the attached is the closest I found.
Carl
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:16 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Inverting Oil Cooler
That's an excellent way to mount the cooler, but my exhaust hangars would go right through the fwd right corner of the cooler. Do you have a different way of mounting the hangars or a different exhaust setup???
Linn
On 5/27/2014 10:18 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
[quote] | Quote: | | In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces thecooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubesare not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of thecooler. For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back atthe engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontalfirewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to coolerbutterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler alsohas a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown incooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes |
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rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 12:05 pm Post subject: Inverting Oil Cooler |
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Many thanks guys.
Warm regards
Patrick
On 28 May 2014, at 1:18, "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net (carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net)> wrote:
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I have the stock Van’s engine and Vetterman exhaust. I did not have a problem but I remember cutting one of the exhaust mount threaded rods shorter so that it did not hit the bottom of the cooler. I looked for a photo with all the stuff mounted but the attached is the closest I found.
Carl
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:16 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Inverting Oil Cooler
That's an excellent way to mount the cooler, but my exhaust hangars would go right through the fwd right corner of the cooler. Do you have a different way of mounting the hangars or a different exhaust setup???
Linn
On 5/27/2014 10:18 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
[quote] | Quote: | | In general, a liquid based cooler is discharged at the top. This forces thecooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubesare not bypassed and you do not have an air lock stuck at the top of thecooler. For the RV-10 I did not like the Van's bounce off the firewall then back atthe engine air path. I used the Airflow 2006X cooler but did a horizontalfirewall mount. Even on hot days I end up closing down on the air to coolerbutterfly valve to keep oil temps up. Photo attached. Note the cooler alsohas a forward adle clamp attachment to the engine mount that is not shown incooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes |
0 | Quote: | | cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes |
1 | Quote: | | cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes |
2 | Quote: | | cooler to always be full before fluid leaves - as in the fluid media tubes |
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