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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:15 am    Post subject: vibration effects on bolts Reply with quote

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this is a very interesting article explaing how bolts loosen due to vibration.
Very interesting.

http://www.boltscience.com/pages/junkertestvideo.htm

Graham
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:55 am    Post subject: vibration effects on bolts Reply with quote

This is a very interesting video. It shows how, even with locking washers, bolts and nuts simply back-off under vibration. But it stops there. No help about what to do to prevent this problem. More research, I guess.

Mike Duane


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: vibration effects on bolts Reply with quote

I couldn't help smiling while reading this.
I am involved with the restoration of a Jaguar XK120 and a few months back, visited an ex Jaguar racing mechanic (well past retirement age) at his immaculate workshop while searching for obscure bits. During a very interesting discussion, he explained that years ago, Jags were plagued with problems with the bell housing bolts backing out during endurance races. The solution, discovered by trial and error, was to replace the helical spring washer with plain washers.
These old timers know a thing or two!
Nowadays we have technology on our side - and thread locker.

Nigel

On 05/07/2014 14:54, duanefamly(at)aol.com (duanefamly(at)aol.com) wrote:

[quote] This is a very interesting video. It shows how, even with locking washers, bolts and nuts simply back-off under vibration. But it stops there. No help about what to do to prevent this problem. More research, I guess.

Mike Duane


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:57 am    Post subject: vibration effects on bolts Reply with quote

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<<<Nowadays we have technology on our side - and thread locker>>>

And wire locking!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: vibration effects on bolts Reply with quote

I’ve read that the reason for the XK120 being a two seater was to provide space for a mechanic to ride along at all times…
On Jul 5, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk (nigel_graham(at)m-tecque.co.uk)> wrote:
[quote] I couldn't help smiling while reading this.
I am involved with the restoration of a Jaguar XK120 and a few months back, visited an ex Jaguar racing mechanic (well past retirement age) at his immaculate workshop while searching for obscure bits. During a very interesting discussion, he explained that years ago, Jags were plagued with problems with the bell housing bolts backing out during endurance races. The solution, discovered by trial and error, was to replace the helical spring washer with plain washers.
These old timers know a thing or two!
Nowadays we have technology on our side - and thread locker.

Nigel

On 05/07/2014 14:54, duanefamly(at)aol.com (duanefamly(at)aol.com) wrote:

[quote] This is a very interesting video. It shows how, even with locking washers, bolts and nuts simply back-off under vibration. But it stops there. No help about what to do to prevent this problem. More research, I guess.

Mike Duane


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:16 pm    Post subject: vibration effects on bolts Reply with quote

Graham,

Thank you for forwarding the link. Great information.

Duane,

There is a wealth of information on the website, including why nuts loosen and an assessment of common locking methods, including double nuts, and Loctite. Interesting the site claims that friction lock nuts (prevailing torque) like those used in aviation are little more that bolt retaining devises under transverse joint movement.

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