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... nobody went to Osh?? lol
I'll just leave that here.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:51 am Post subject: Warbirds Mag |
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I thought the same thing !!!
All those pics and no red star ?!?!? Just before I tossed it.
Dr. Herb Coussons, MD
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2641 Development Drive
Green Bay, WI 54311
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:33 am Post subject: Warbirds Mag |
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Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
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1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
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To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 15:50:00 +0000
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dr. Herbert Coussons" <drc(at)wscare.com>
I thought the same thing !!!
All those pics and no red star ?!?!? Just before I tossed it.
Dr. Herb Coussons, MD
drc(at)wscare.com
2641 Development Drive
Green Bay, WI 54311
Cell 920-639-8434
Work 920-338-6868
Fax 920-338-6869
On Oct 1, 2014, at 10:07 AM, tjyak50 <tomjohnson(at)cox.net> wrote:
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:37 am Post subject: Warbirds Mag |
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After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
Blitz Fox415-307-2405
On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:14 am Post subject: Warbirds Mag |
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Bazinga Blitz!
From: "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com>
To: "Yak-List" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
Blitz Fox 415-307-2405
On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
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1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:13:35 +0000
From: jblake207(at)comcast.net
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
The Red Star guys are the finest guys in Warbirds (in my humble opinion). Perhaps the "red headed step children" thing actually works in our favor -- if folks who wear scarves and iron their flight suits aren't for you, there's a group out there with humor in their hearts and red stars on their planes that are probably a lot more your speed -- the fact that we're not "cool" probably keeps the pudknockers away.
We ran into one of the below-referenced P-51 drivers at an event over the weekend. Decent guy, but he was workin' hard to keep the stereotype alive. 
From: "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com>
To: "Yak-List" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
Blitz Fox 415-307-2405
On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
> From: drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)
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Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 15:50:00 +0000
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Dr. Herbert Coussons" <drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)>
I thought the same thing !!!
All those pics and no red star ?!?!? Just before I tossed it.
Dr. Herb Coussons, MD
drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)
2641 Development Drive
Green Bay, WI 54311
Cell 920-639-8434
Work 920-338-6868
Fax 920-338-6869
On Oct 1, 2014, at 10:07 AM, tjyak50 <tomjohnson(at)cox.net (tomjohnson(at)cox.net)> wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "tjyak50" <tomjohnson(at)cox.net (tomjohnson(at)cox.net)>
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> I'll just leave that here.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: Warbirds Mag |
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For whatever it's worth..."SUBSTANTIAL PRIDE" does not begin to describe what I felt as I was tying-down this year in the Red Star corral. YOU GUYS instilled that in me with years of watching from a distance and wanting to be there. I believe you represent - and present - yourselves exceedingly professionally. As a (finally) functioning member of the group, I feel you have all set a high standard for we "newbe's" to attain. If you ask me, who cares if we are clandestinely shunned? As long as we are safe, enjoy what we do and educate the public - however unintentionally - regarding OTHER military aircraft. And remember, the editors of the magazines and videos don't always answer to the higher powers - who are usually looking for more of a quality product than any type of equity.
With my limited experience w/ both the hardware and the group, I have NO right to comment politically. But I have EVERY right to comment as a bystander for the last decade-plus. The Red Star aircraft and owners / pilots were compelling factors at many an AirVenture for me. I don't fly a fighter, and my ride does not carry a 6 or 7-figure price tag. But it DOES carry ME...loudly and proudly spewing oil on any tarmac that allows me to land. And every time I hoist myself out of that cockpit and look down at those stars on the wings, I feel like I just walked into the big game w/ the prom queen on my arm...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
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1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:13:35 +0000
From: jblake207(at)comcast.net
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
Bazinga Blitz!
From: "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com>
To: "Yak-List" <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
Blitz Fox 415-307-2405
On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
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Rico
You got it right..
Richard HessC 404-964-4885
On Oct 1, 2014, at 14:59, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
[quote] For whatever it's worth..."SUBSTANTIAL PRIDE" does not begin to describe what I felt as I was tying-down this year in the Red Star corral. YOU GUYS instilled that in me with years of watching from a distance and wanting to be there. I believe you represent - and present - yourselves exceedingly professionally. As a (finally) functioning member of the group, I feel you have all set a high standard for we "newbe's" to attain. If you ask me, who cares if we are clandestinely shunned? As long as we are safe, enjoy what we do and educate the public - however unintentionally - regarding OTHER military aircraft. And remember, the editors of the magazines and videos don't always answer to the higher powers - who are usually looking for more of a quality product than any type of equity.
With my limited experience w/ both the hardware and the group, I have NO right to comment politically. But I have EVERY right to comment as a bystander for the last decade-plus. The Red Star aircraft and owners / pilots were compelling factors at many an AirVenture for me. I don't fly a fighter, and my ride does not carry a 6 or 7-figure price tag. But it DOES carry ME...loudly and proudly spewing oil on any tarmac that allows me to land. And every time I hoist myself out of that cockpit and look down at those stars on the wings, I feel like I just walked into the big game w/ the prom queen on my arm...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:13:35 +0000
From: jblake207(at)comcast.net (jblake207(at)comcast.net)
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Warbirds Mag
Bazinga Blitz!
From: "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)>
To: "Yak-List" <yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)>
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
Blitz Fox 415-307-2405
On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
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1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
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By golly, you silver-tongued devil you. I nominate you for best "spirit" writer on the list for 2014. If'n you don't let it go to your head and all
Jim
P.S. I would have needed an AN-2 to show up with and deliver the prom queen in our small town.
On 10/1/2014 12:59 PM, Rico Jaeger wrote:
[quote] For whatever it's worth..."SUBSTANTIAL PRIDE" does not begin to describe what I felt as I was tying-down this year in the Red Star corral. YOU GUYS instilled that in me with years of watching from a distance and wanting to be there. I believe you represent - and present - yourselves exceedingly professionally. As a (finally) functioning member of the group, I feel you have all set a high standard for we "newbe's" to attain. If you ask me, who cares if we are clandestinely shunned? As long as we are safe, enjoy what we do and educate the public - however unintentionally - regarding OTHER military aircraft. And remember, the editors of the magazines and videos don't always answer to the higher powers - who are usually looking for more of a quality product than any type of equity.
With my limited experience w/ both the hardware and the group, I have NO right to comment politically. But I have EVERY right to comment as a bystander for the last decade-plus. The Red Star aircraft and owners / pilots were compelling factors at many an AirVenture for me. I don't fly a fighter, and my ride does not carry a 6 or 7-figure price tag. But it DOES carry ME...loudly and proudly spewing oil on any tarmac that allows me to land. And every time I hoist myself out of that cockpit and look down at those stars on the wings, I feel like I just walked into the big game w/ the prom queen on my arm...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:13:35 +0000
From: jblake207(at)comcast.net (jblake207(at)comcast.net)
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
Bazinga Blitz!
From: "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com> (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)
To: "Yak-List" <yak-list(at)matronics.com> (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
Blitz Fox 415-307-2405
On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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> From: drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)
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> I thought the same thing !!!
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> All those pics and no red star ?!?!? Just before I tossed it.
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> drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)
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HA! OK, maybe I shoulda' said head cheerleader...
That was pretty funny, Jim!
And I ACCEPT your nomination! I will never have all I want, but I already have much more than I need. In that respect, life is pretty darn good.
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
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N21YK //
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 14:13:02 -0600
From: jim(at)jimivey.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
By golly, you silver-tongued devil you. I nominate you for best "spirit" writer on the list for 2014. If'n you don't let it go to your head and all
Jim
P.S. I would have needed an AN-2 to show up with and deliver the prom queen in our small town.
On 10/1/2014 12:59 PM, Rico Jaeger wrote:
[quote] For whatever it's worth..."SUBSTANTIAL PRIDE" does not begin to describe what I felt as I was tying-down this year in the Red Star corral. YOU GUYS instilled that in me with years of watching from a distance and wanting to be there. I believe you represent - and present - yourselves exceedingly professionally. As a (finally) functioning member of the group, I feel you have all set a high standard for we "newbe's" to attain. If you ask me, who cares if we are clandestinely shunned? As long as we are safe, enjoy what we do and educate the public - however unintentionally - regarding OTHER military aircraft. And remember, the editors of the magazines and videos don't always answer to the higher powers - who are usually looking for more of a quality product than any type of equity.
With my limited experience w/ both the hardware and the group, I have NO right to comment politically. But I have EVERY right to comment as a bystander for the last decade-plus. The Red Star aircraft and owners / pilots were compelling factors at many an AirVenture for me. I don't fly a fighter, and my ride does not carry a 6 or 7-figure price tag. But it DOES carry ME...loudly and proudly spewing oil on any tarmac that allows me to land. And every time I hoist myself out of that cockpit and look down at those stars on the wings, I feel like I just walked into the big game w/ the prom queen on my arm...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
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1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:13:35 +0000
From: jblake207(at)comcast.net (jblake207(at)comcast.net)
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
Bazinga Blitz!
From: "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com> (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)
To: "Yak-List" <yak-list(at)matronics.com> (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
Blitz Fox 415-307-2405
On Oct 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Rico Jaeger <rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com (rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, it's very consistent w/ all the AirVenture media coverage. All those seemingly random video sweeps of dew-covered aircraft at dawn and not a Red Star to be found.
I know the "backed-against-the-snow-fence" parking spot is not optimum, but that entry gate gets pretty busy. So in a way, we are "greeters" there. Don't say that to the wrong person, tho...we'll be parked at Hardees next year...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
> From: drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
> Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 15:50:00 +0000
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> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dr. Herbert Coussons" <drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)>
>
> I thought the same thing !!!
>
> All those pics and no red star ?!?!? Just before I tossed it.
>
>
> Dr. Herb Coussons, MD
> drc(at)wscare.com (drc(at)wscare.com)
> 2641 Development Drive
> Green Bay, WI 54311
> Cell 920-639-8434
> Work 920-338-6868
> Fax 920-338-6869
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Maybe one of us old timers should sit down and write up the history of Yak/CJs visa ve the rest of the warbird community. Believe it are not, we do have friends in EAAWB, both in the leadership and out, BUT I will not deny that there is some prejudice against us. (I have a particular bone to pick on some airshow announcers). A lot of those heavy iron guys (not all) have their airplanes for an investment so hype keeps its price up. But be advised a few of them were former RPA members and simply moved up. And they still come by and hang with us for a while. I remember getting mailed mimeographed newsletter from Bud Harrell (who started the Yak Pilots Club - the real sperm donor) where he had a picture of the first ever gathering of members at OSH. All 4 of them - no airplanes. If it were not for the LO group, we never may gotten to even fly in the show in the first place. I believe it was 1995 or 96, myself, Hal Morley, Brain Lloyd, and Saliebe (later killed flying a T-2 , flew the first Commie flight (CJ-6s) at OSH. We were mixed with the L birds, in a 4 ship at 500'. (No FAST card in those days). It took a number of years before we were recognized as a serious group and were often put behind the T-34 fellows. Instructions were often "Stay a mile behind us. Do your own thing". It took some politicking and persistent support of EAAWB to earn a spot to put our tent along side other WBs. The judges there have always wanted to have enough Yaks or CJs to able to award trophies too but you need a minima of 3 to enter for judging. "And why doesn't a CJ or Yak ever win Grand Champion Warbird?". The complexity of a 51, Corsair, Spitfire or even a T6 are far more an accomplishment to restore even if you drop consideration of the money spent. Our airplanes are just to simple. RPA still has the best formation book that got its founding's from the T-34 Asso manual.
For a few years we had the most airplanes (except maybe the T6 guys) specially when the T34 guys had their spar problems. At one point what few showed up at OSH ended up following us around the pattern. So there is an eb and flow in the EAAWB of airplanes. We will never out class (maybe out number) the big iron guys. The complexity and expense alone, than count in their American history and hype of that and yes that puts us near the bottom and out in the "North Forty". So hang in there, a the absence of a picture in one issue of a magazine for one airshow does not mean we are nothing.
I believe the low showing of RPA airplanes at the big shows, has in part to do with our success in regionalizing our association. Guys don't have to travel all the way to OSH or S&F, to get the satisfaction and comradeship of like minded pilots. Plus the regional airshows allow us to show off our skills and airplanes without the pilgrimage to the mecca's of OSH or S&F.
Hope that helps.
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 10/1/2014 5:22:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rocknpilot(at)hotmail.com writes:
| Quote: | HA! OK, maybe I shoulda' said head cheerleader...
That was pretty funny, Jim!
And I ACCEPT your nomination! I will never have all I want, but I already have much more than I need. In that respect, life is pretty darn good.
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 14:13:02 -0600
From: jim(at)jimivey.com
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
By golly, you silver-tongued devil you. I nominate you for best "spirit" writer on the list for 2014. If'n you don't let it go to your head and all
Jim
P.S. I would have needed an AN-2 to show up with and deliver the prom queen in our small town.
On 10/1/2014 12:59 PM, Rico Jaeger wrote:
| Quote: | For whatever it's worth..."SUBSTANTIAL PRIDE" does not begin to describe what I felt as I was tying-down this year in the Red Star corral. YOU GUYS instilled that in me with years of watching from a distance and wanting to be there. I believe you represent - and present - yourselves exceedingly professionally. As a (finally) functioning member of the group, I feel you have all set a high standard for we "newbe's" to attain. If you ask me, who cares if we are clandestinely shunned? As long as we are safe, enjoy what we do and educate the public - however unintentionally - regarding OTHER military aircraft. And remember, the editors of the magazines and videos don't always answer to the higher powers - who are usually looking for more of a quality product than any type of equity.
With my limited experience w/ both the hardware and the group, I have NO right to comment politically. But I have EVERY right to comment as a bystander for the last decade-plus. The Red Star aircraft and owners / pilots were compelling factors at many an AirVenture for me. I don't fly a fighter, and my ride does not carry a 6 or 7-figure price tag. But it DOES carry ME...loudly and proudly spewing oil on any tarmac that allows me to land. And every time I hoist myself out of that cockpit and look down at those stars on the wings, I feel like I just walked into the big game w/ the prom queen on my arm...
Rico Jaeger
915 S. 11th Ave.
Wausau, WI. 54401
715.529.7426
//
1966 Cessna 150F ^/---//-X
N8558G //
//
1992 Yakovlev Yak 52 ^/---//-X
N21YK //
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 18:13:35 +0000
From: jblake207(at)comcast.net (jblake207(at)comcast.net)
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Warbirds Mag
Bazinga Blitz!
From: "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com> (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)
To: "Yak-List" <yak-list(at)matronics.com> (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:37:21 PM
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Warbirds Mag
After 13 years, I've become accustomed to being one of the "red headed step children " of the warbird community. I take great comfort in the knowledge that my CJ didn't cost $1.5M to acquire, doesn't burn 60 gallons/hour, and doesn't eat $100K/year to maintain.
Moreover, with the singular exception of Stu Eberhardt, did you even meet a P-51 owner who doesn't take himself very seriously?
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