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and interesting annuals, Gary?
Best,
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: New...... |
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Hi Bruce,
Well, I have a real interesting story about picking up a plane in Virginia and flying it back to California.
One of my customers brought a Grumman Traveler project to me a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I told him that it would be a better use of him money to find a Tiger project than to put the Traveler back together.
On Tuesday, I found a great candidate in Lynchburg Virginia. On Wednesday, my customer and I decided to fly (commercial) to VA and look at the plane. If it's as advertised, we'd fly it home.
We left Thursday night, got to Lynchburg Friday morning, and checked out the plane. I had to do a quick and dirty fix on the engine baffle seals before we left or the engine would have overheated too easily.
By 2pm, we were headed west. Our first stop was in Mt Carmel, IL some 3 hrs and 45 minutes later. Four hours and 25 minutes later, we landed in Lawrence, Kansas. We pushed 10-20 knot winds to Illinois and winds as high as 50 knots across Kansas. We landed in Lawrence with 6 gallons of fuel. It was a long day . . . . on almost no sleep.
We spent the night at the house a friend of my customer who just happened to live in Topeka. The next morning, we fired up the Tiger and prepared for take-off. Unfortunately, it failed a mag check. It took about an hour and 4 new spark plugs to fix it.
My customer and another friend of his HAD planned on driving to Oshkosh, leaving on Friday morning. His friend, instead, left Friday on his own. The plan was for us to fly partially back to California and drop off my customer at an airport along I80 and wait for his friend. So, we flew 3 hrs and 25 minutes to Sidney, Nebraska and I dropped him off.
From there on, it was just the Rockies and the Sierras between me and home flying in an unknown plane. The flight to Salt Lake City took another 3 hrs and 50 minutes. Lotsa wind to be pushed.
The stop in SLC was quick and by 7:00p Saturday, I was taking off on my last leg. The sun was setting as I crossed the Ruby range of mountains near Elko, NV. I stayed at 12,500 feet to keep from hitting any mountains for the rest of the flight to Auburn. Just in case.
I could see the lights of Reno about 30 miles before I got there. Between Reno and Auburn there were no ground references. I flew direct over the Sierras to Auburn. Absolutely no lights under me. It was as though I was flying over open ocean at night.
I started my decent into Auburn 20 miles out and landed at 10:45pm. I was home a little after 11:00pm.
All together, I flew about 2500 miles in about 19 hours flight time.
It was a great adventure.
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Now, for the rest of the story. The right outboard aileron bracket was broken. I knew that before I took off. Not a big deal, really. All four access covers on the left wing leaked fuel. Two on the right wing leaked fuel. The baffle seals were original and so bad that I did a quick baffle seal replacement on all but one baffle.
It's in a new home now: Beautiful Auburn, California. At least until it's airworthy.
Attached are pics inside the wing tips.
Gary
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:16 am Post subject: New...... |
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Gary, thanks for sharing your story and pictures. In 2009 I traded my 1933 ford street rod for my traveler in Salem Oregon. I traveled out to check out the aircraft in April and received a checkout from a local CFI. In June I had an annual performed from a local mechanic and then I flew out there with one of my Amsoil dealers that had some Grumman experience in July. We flew our first leg to Idaho Falls IDA and spent the night at a friend’s house. The next day we flew all the way to Jackson Mississippi where he lives, I think that was a 17 flight hour day. The next day I flew it in to my field near Knoxville Tennessee 2tn7. The only problem we had right from the get go was the transponder altitude reporting did not work, but the controllers who was handling our flight following worked with us most of the way home. When we were flying through some mountain paths at 11,500 foot in Wyoming my friend said to me “you know this is really risky” I asked why and he said here we are flying an aircraft we don’t really know mechanical wise just out of Annual and flying over mountains in July we really don’t know much about. We both had limited mountain flying experience though, but that was a sobering thought at the time especially when I started getting downward pressure as I got to close to a mountain ridge.
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Hi Bruce,
Well, I have a real interesting story about picking up a plane in Virginia and flying it back to California.
One of my customers brought a Grumman Traveler project to me a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I told him that it would be a better use of him money to find a Tiger project than to put the Traveler back together.
On Tuesday, I found a great candidate in Lynchburg Virginia. On Wednesday, my customer and I decided to fly (commercial) to VA and look at the plane. If it's as advertised, we'd fly it home.
We left Thursday night, got to Lynchburg Friday morning, and checked out the plane. I had to do a quick and dirty fix on the engine baffle seals before we left or the engine would have overheated too easily.
By 2pm, we were headed west. Our first stop was in Mt Carmel, IL some 3 hrs and 45 minutes later. Four hours and 25 minutes later, we landed in Lawrence, Kansas. We pushed 10-20 knot winds to Illinois and winds as high as 50 knots across Kansas. We landed in Lawrence with 6 gallons of fuel. It was a long day . . . . on almost no sleep.
We spent the night at the house a friend of my customer who just happened to live in Topeka. The next morning, we fired up the Tiger and prepared for take-off. Unfortunately, it failed a mag check. It took about an hour and 4 new spark plugs to fix it.
My customer and another friend of his HAD planned on driving to Oshkosh, leaving on Friday morning. His friend, instead, left Friday on his own. The plan was for us to fly partially back to California and drop off my customer at an airport along I80 and wait for his friend. So, we flew 3 hrs and 25 minutes to Sidney, Nebraska and I dropped him off.
From there on, it was just the Rockies and the Sierras between me and home flying in an unknown plane. The flight to Salt Lake City took another 3 hrs and 50 minutes. Lotsa wind to be pushed.
The stop in SLC was quick and by 7:00p Saturday, I was taking off on my last leg. The sun was setting as I crossed the Ruby range of mountains near Elko, NV. I stayed at 12,500 feet to keep from hitting any mountains for the rest of the flight to Auburn. Just in case.
I could see the lights of Reno about 30 miles before I got there. Between Reno and Auburn there were no ground references. I flew direct over the Sierras to Auburn. Absolutely no lights under me. It was as though I was flying over open ocean at night.
I started my decent into Auburn 20 miles out and landed at 10:45pm. I was home a little after 11:00pm.
All together, I flew about 2500 miles in about 19 hours flight time.
It was a great adventure.
-----------------------------------------------
Now, for the rest of the story. The right outboard aileron bracket was broken. I knew that before I took off. Not a big deal, really. All four access covers on the left wing leaked fuel. Two on the right wing leaked fuel. The baffle seals were original and so bad that I did a quick baffle seal replacement on all but one baffle.
It's in a new home now: Beautiful Auburn, California. At least until it's airworthy.
Attached are pics inside the wing tips.
Gary
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Best,
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:47 am Post subject: New...... |
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This has all the hallmarks of an interesting annual!
Best,
Bruce
On Sep 26, 2014, at 02:02 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Hi Bruce,
Well, I have a real interesting story about picking up a plane in Virginia and flying it back to California.
One of my customers brought a Grumman Traveler project to me a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I told him that it would be a better use of him money to find a Tiger project than to put the Traveler back together.
On Tuesday, I found a great candidate in Lynchburg Virginia. On Wednesday, my customer and I decided to fly (commercial) to VA and look at the plane. If it's as advertised, we'd fly it home.
We left Thursday night, got to Lynchburg Friday morning, and checked out the plane. I had to do a quick and dirty fix on the engine baffle seals before we left or the engine would have overheated too easily.
By 2pm, we were headed west. Our first stop was in Mt Carmel, IL some 3 hrs and 45 minutes later. Four hours and 25 minutes later, we landed in Lawrence, Kansas. We pushed 10-20 knot winds to Illinois and winds as high as 50 knots across Kansas. We landed in Lawrence with 6 gallons of fuel. It was a long day . . . . on almost no sleep.
We spent the night at the house a friend of my customer who just happened to live in Topeka. The next morning, we fired up the Tiger and prepared for take-off. Unfortunately, it failed a mag check. It took about an hour and 4 new spark plugs to fix it.
My customer and another friend of his HAD planned on driving to Oshkosh, leaving on Friday morning. His friend, instead, left Friday on his own. The plan was for us to fly partially back to California and drop off my customer at an airport along I80 and wait for his friend. So, we flew 3 hrs and 25 minutes to Sidney, Nebraska and I dropped him off.
From there on, it was just the Rockies and the Sierras between me and home flying in an unknown plane. The flight to Salt Lake City took another 3 hrs and 50 minutes. Lotsa wind to be pushed.
The stop in SLC was quick and by 7:00p Saturday, I was taking off on my last leg. The sun was setting as I crossed the Ruby range of mountains near Elko, NV. I stayed at 12,500 feet to keep from hitting any mountains for the rest of the flight to Auburn. Just in case.
I could see the lights of Reno about 30 miles before I got there. Between Reno and Auburn there were no ground references. I flew direct over the Sierras to Auburn. Absolutely no lights under me. It was as though I was flying over open ocean at night.
I started my decent into Auburn 20 miles out and landed at 10:45pm. I was home a little after 11:00pm.
All together, I flew about 2500 miles in about 19 hours flight time.
It was a great adventure.
-----------------------------------------------
Now, for the rest of the story. The right outboard aileron bracket was broken. I knew that before I took off. Not a big deal, really. All four access covers on the left wing leaked fuel. Two on the right wing leaked fuel. The baffle seals were original and so bad that I did a quick baffle seal replacement on all but one baffle.
It's in a new home now: Beautiful Auburn, California. At least until it's airworthy.
Attached are pics inside the wing tips.
Gary
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:15 pm Post subject: New...... |
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George.
I lived in Lancaster, Ca (AKA Hell) for 22 years. We'd get hellatious winds; some gusting to over 60 knots. One New years I was flying the Harris Ranch and my westward ground speed was 25 knots. I made it to 7,000 feet about the time I got to the ridge just east of Bakersfield and got in a downdraft that showed mored that 2000 fpm descent. I pushed the nose down and headed for the ground just to get airspeed. On the other side of the wave, I caught an updraft that pegged the needle up; went right to 9,000 feet.
Mountain flying is interesting, to say the least.
Gary
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This has all the hallmarks of an interesting annual!
Best,
Bruce
On Sep 26, 2014, at 02:02 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | Hi Bruce,
Well, I have a real interesting story about picking up a plane in Virginia and flying it back to California.
One of my customers brought a Grumman Traveler project to me a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I told him that it would be a better use of him money to find a Tiger project than to put the Traveler back together.
On Tuesday, I found a great candidate in Lynchburg Virginia. On Wednesday, my customer and I decided to fly (commercial) to VA and look at the plane. If it's as advertised, we'd fly it home.
We left Thursday night, got to Lynchburg Friday morning, and checked out the plane. I had to do a quick and dirty fix on the engine baffle seals before we left or the engine would have overheated too easily.
By 2pm, we were headed west. Our first stop was in Mt Carmel, IL some 3 hrs and 45 minutes later. Four hours and 25 minutes later, we landed in Lawrence, Kansas. We pushed 10-20 knot winds to Illinois and winds as high as 50 knots across Kansas. We landed in Lawrence with 6 gallons of fuel. It was a long day . . . . on almost no sleep.
We spent the night at the house a friend of my customer who just happened to live in Topeka. The next morning, we fired up the Tiger and prepared for take-off. Unfortunately, it failed a mag check. It took about an hour and 4 new spark plugs to fix it.
My customer and another friend of his HAD planned on driving to Oshkosh, leaving on Friday morning. His friend, instead, left Friday on his own. The plan was for us to fly partially back to California and drop off my customer at an airport along I80 and wait for his friend. So, we flew 3 hrs and 25 minutes to Sidney, Nebraska and I dropped him off.
From there on, it was just the Rockies and the Sierras between me and home flying in an unknown plane. The flight to Salt Lake City took another 3 hrs and 50 minutes. Lotsa wind to be pushed.
The stop in SLC was quick and by 7:00p Saturday, I was taking off on my last leg. The sun was setting as I crossed the Ruby range of mountains near Elko, NV. I stayed at 12,500 feet to keep from hitting any mountains for the rest of the flight to Auburn. Just in case.
I could see the lights of Reno about 30 miles before I got there. Between Reno and Auburn there were no ground references. I flew direct over the Sierras to Auburn. Absolutely no lights under me. It was as though I was flying over open ocean at night.
I started my decent into Auburn 20 miles out and landed at 10:45pm. I was home a little after 11:00pm.
All together, I flew about 2500 miles in about 19 hours flight time.
It was a great adventure.
-----------------------------------------------
Now, for the rest of the story. The right outboard aileron bracket was broken. I knew that before I took off. Not a big deal, really. All four access covers on the left wing leaked fuel. Two on the right wing leaked fuel. The baffle seals were original and so bad that I did a quick baffle seal replacement on all but one baffle.
It's in a new home now: Beautiful Auburn, California. At least until it's airworthy.
Attached are pics inside the wing tips.
Gary
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:52 am Post subject: New...... |
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Gary,
Remember you always have a place to stay in KC, and the coolest car to drive while you are here!
Rick
N72T
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 1:45 PM, "L. Bruce Smith" <haveblue1(at)mac.com (haveblue1(at)mac.com)> wrote:
[quote]This has all the hallmarks of an interesting annual!
Best,
Bruce
On Sep 26, 2014, at 02:02 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Hi Bruce,
Well, I have a real interesting story about picking up a plane in Virginia and flying it back to California.
One of my customers brought a Grumman Traveler project to me a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I told him that it would be a better use of him money to find a Tiger project than to put the Traveler back together.
On Tuesday, I found a great candidate in Lynchburg Virginia. On Wednesday, my customer and I decided to fly (commercial) to VA and look at the plane. If it's as advertised, we'd fly it home.
We left Thursday night, got to Lynchburg Friday morning, and checked out the plane. I had to do a quick and dirty fix on the engine baffle seals before we left or the engine would have overheated too easily.
By 2pm, we were headed west. Our first stop was in Mt Carmel, IL some 3 hrs and 45 minutes later. Four hours and 25 minutes later, we landed in Lawrence, Kansas. We pushed 10-20 knot winds to Illinois and winds as high as 50 knots across Kansas. We landed in Lawrence with 6 gallons of fuel. It was a long day . . . . on almost no sleep.
We spent the night at the house a friend of my customer who just happened to live in Topeka. The next morning, we fired up the Tiger and prepared for take-off. Unfortunately, it failed a mag check. It took about an hour and 4 new spark plugs to fix it.
My customer and another friend of his HAD planned on driving to Oshkosh, leaving on Friday morning. His friend, instead, left Friday on his own. The plan was for us to fly partially back to California and drop off my customer at an airport along I80 and wait for his friend. So, we flew 3 hrs and 25 minutes to Sidney, Nebraska and I dropped him off.
From there on, it was just the Rockies and the Sierras between me and home flying in an unknown plane. The flight to Salt Lake City took another 3 hrs and 50 minutes. Lotsa wind to be pushed.
The stop in SLC was quick and by 7:00p Saturday, I was taking off on my last leg. The sun was setting as I crossed the Ruby range of mountains near Elko, NV. I stayed at 12,500 feet to keep from hitting any mountains for the rest of the flight to Auburn. Just in case.
I could see the lights of Reno about 30 miles before I got there. Between Reno and Auburn there were no ground references. I flew direct over the Sierras to Auburn. Absolutely no lights under me. It was as though I was flying over open ocean at night.
I started my decent into Auburn 20 miles out and landed at 10:45pm. I was home a little after 11:00pm.
All together, I flew about 2500 miles in about 19 hours flight time.
It was a great adventure.
-----------------------------------------------
Now, for the rest of the story. The right outboard aileron bracket was broken. I knew that before I took off. Not a big deal, really. All four access covers on the left wing leaked fuel. Two on the right wing leaked fuel. The baffle seals were original and so bad that I did a quick baffle seal replacement on all but one baffle.
It's in a new home now: Beautiful Auburn, California. At least until it's airworthy.
Attached are pics inside the wing tips.
Gary
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Thanks Rick. Likewise. We save a place for you and Clytie will make some pancit for you.
Gary
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[quote]Gary,
Remember you always have a place to stay in KC, and the coolest car to drive while you are here!
Rick
N72T
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Quote: | This has all the hallmarks of an interesting annual!
Best,
Bruce
On Sep 26, 2014, at 02:02 AM, Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com (teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
Quote: | Hi Bruce,
Well, I have a real interesting story about picking up a plane in Virginia and flying it back to California.
One of my customers brought a Grumman Traveler project to me a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I told him that it would be a better use of him money to find a Tiger project than to put the Traveler back together.
On Tuesday, I found a great candidate in Lynchburg Virginia. On Wednesday, my customer and I decided to fly (commercial) to VA and look at the plane. If it's as advertised, we'd fly it home.
We left Thursday night, got to Lynchburg Friday morning, and checked out the plane. I had to do a quick and dirty fix on the engine baffle seals before we left or the engine would have overheated too easily.
By 2pm, we were headed west. Our first stop was in Mt Carmel, IL some 3 hrs and 45 minutes later. Four hours and 25 minutes later, we landed in Lawrence, Kansas. We pushed 10-20 knot winds to Illinois and winds as high as 50 knots across Kansas. We landed in Lawrence with 6 gallons of fuel. It was a long day . . . . on almost no sleep.
We spent the night at the house a friend of my customer who just happened to live in Topeka. The next morning, we fired up the Tiger and prepared for take-off. Unfortunately, it failed a mag check. It took about an hour and 4 new spark plugs to fix it.
My customer and another friend of his HAD planned on driving to Oshkosh, leaving on Friday morning. His friend, instead, left Friday on his own. The plan was for us to fly partially back to California and drop off my customer at an airport along I80 and wait for his friend. So, we flew 3 hrs and 25 minutes to Sidney, Nebraska and I dropped him off.
From there on, it was just the Rockies and the Sierras between me and home flying in an unknown plane. The flight to Salt Lake City took another 3 hrs and 50 minutes. Lotsa wind to be pushed.
The stop in SLC was quick and by 7:00p Saturday, I was taking off on my last leg. The sun was setting as I crossed the Ruby range of mountains near Elko, NV. I stayed at 12,500 feet to keep from hitting any mountains for the rest of the flight to Auburn. Just in case.
I could see the lights of Reno about 30 miles before I got there. Between Reno and Auburn there were no ground references. I flew direct over the Sierras to Auburn. Absolutely no lights under me. It was as though I was flying over open ocean at night.
I started my decent into Auburn 20 miles out and landed at 10:45pm. I was home a little after 11:00pm.
All together, I flew about 2500 miles in about 19 hours flight time.
It was a great adventure.
-----------------------------------------------
Now, for the rest of the story. The right outboard aileron bracket was broken. I knew that before I took off. Not a big deal, really. All four access covers on the left wing leaked fuel. Two on the right wing leaked fuel. The baffle seals were original and so bad that I did a quick baffle seal replacement on all but one baffle.
It's in a new home now: Beautiful Auburn, California. At least until it's airworthy.
Attached are pics inside the wing tips.
Gary
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George, that's a good story too. I guess we all have a few stories locked away.
Maybe we all can share a few.
Gary
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:16 AM, George Douglas <George(at)oilhelp.com (George(at)oilhelp.com)> wrote:
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Gary, thanks for sharing your story and pictures. In 2009 I traded my 1933 ford street rod for my traveler in Salem Oregon. I traveled out to check out the aircraft in April and received a checkout from a local CFI. In June I had an annual performed from a local mechanic and then I flew out there with one of my Amsoil dealers that had some Grumman experience in July. We flew our first leg to Idaho Falls IDA and spent the night at a friend’s house. The next day we flew all the way to Jackson Mississippi where he lives, I think that was a 17 flight hour day. The next day I flew it in to my field near Knoxville Tennessee 2tn7. The only problem we had right from the get go was the transponder altitude reporting did not work, but the controllers who was handling our flight following worked with us most of the way home. When we were flying through some mountain paths at 11,500 foot in Wyoming my friend said to me “you know this is really risky” I asked why and he said here we are flying an aircraft we don’t really know mechanical wise just out of Annual and flying over mountains in July we really don’t know much about. We both had limited mountain flying experience though, but that was a sobering thought at the time especially when I started getting downward pressure as I got to close to a mountain ridge.
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George Douglas
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From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:29 AM
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Hi Bruce,
Well, I have a real interesting story about picking up a plane in Virginia and flying it back to California.
One of my customers brought a Grumman Traveler project to me a couple of weeks ago. Last Monday, I told him that it would be a better use of him money to find a Tiger project than to put the Traveler back together.
On Tuesday, I found a great candidate in Lynchburg Virginia. On Wednesday, my customer and I decided to fly (commercial) to VA and look at the plane. If it's as advertised, we'd fly it home.
We left Thursday night, got to Lynchburg Friday morning, and checked out the plane. I had to do a quick and dirty fix on the engine baffle seals before we left or the engine would have overheated too easily.
By 2pm, we were headed west. Our first stop was in Mt Carmel, IL some 3 hrs and 45 minutes later. Four hours and 25 minutes later, we landed in Lawrence, Kansas. We pushed 10-20 knot winds to Illinois and winds as high as 50 knots across Kansas. We landed in Lawrence with 6 gallons of fuel. It was a long day . . . . on almost no sleep.
We spent the night at the house a friend of my customer who just happened to live in Topeka. The next morning, we fired up the Tiger and prepared for take-off. Unfortunately, it failed a mag check. It took about an hour and 4 new spark plugs to fix it.
My customer and another friend of his HAD planned on driving to Oshkosh, leaving on Friday morning. His friend, instead, left Friday on his own. The plan was for us to fly partially back to California and drop off my customer at an airport along I80 and wait for his friend. So, we flew 3 hrs and 25 minutes to Sidney, Nebraska and I dropped him off.
From there on, it was just the Rockies and the Sierras between me and home flying in an unknown plane. The flight to Salt Lake City took another 3 hrs and 50 minutes. Lotsa wind to be pushed.
The stop in SLC was quick and by 7:00p Saturday, I was taking off on my last leg. The sun was setting as I crossed the Ruby range of mountains near Elko, NV. I stayed at 12,500 feet to keep from hitting any mountains for the rest of the flight to Auburn. Just in case.
I could see the lights of Reno about 30 miles before I got there. Between Reno and Auburn there were no ground references. I flew direct over the Sierras to Auburn. Absolutely no lights under me. It was as though I was flying over open ocean at night.
I started my decent into Auburn 20 miles out and landed at 10:45pm. I was home a little after 11:00pm.
All together, I flew about 2500 miles in about 19 hours flight time.
It was a great adventure.
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Now, for the rest of the story. The right outboard aileron bracket was broken. I knew that before I took off. Not a big deal, really. All four access covers on the left wing leaked fuel. Two on the right wing leaked fuel. The baffle seals were original and so bad that I did a quick baffle seal replacement on all but one baffle.
It's in a new home now: Beautiful Auburn, California. At least until it's airworthy.
Attached are pics inside the wing tips.
Gary
On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:51 PM, L. Bruce Smith <haveblue1(at)mac.com (haveblue1(at)mac.com)> wrote:
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and interesting annuals, Gary?
Best,
Bruce Smith
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