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rnjcurtis(at)charter.net
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 Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:52 am Post subject: Strange characters |
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Does anyone know why I get all the strange characters on the bottom of my submissions to the list? I am using Outlook with Windows 8.
Roger
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:51 am Post subject: Re: Strange characters |
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I do not know what causes the strange characters. Your posts, that are included in the Matronics daily digest that is emailed to me, contain ALL garbage, not just at the end. I have to go to the Matronics website to read your posts.
The workaround for you is to NOT use Outlook. Instead, go to http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=3 and click on the thread of interest, then click, "PostReply".
Joe
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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:53 am Post subject: Strange characters |
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At 07:51 2014-10-18, you wrote:
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I do not know what causes the strange characters. Your posts, that
are included in the Matronics daily digest that is emailed to me,
contain ALL garbage, not just at the end. I have to go to the
Matronics website to read your posts.
The workaround for you is to NOT use Outlook. Instead, go to
http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=3 and click on the
thread of interest, then click, "PostReply".
Joe
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I've found Outlook (and most others) to be exceedingly
unfriendly to a techno-wiener's publishing and archival
needs. I've used Eudora for decades. It stores activity
in plain-text 'mailboxes' and does an excellent job of
searching. Just a few minutes ago, I was able to retrieve
a number of messages exchanged with Bob Lee about his
KR2 project . . . messages dating back to 2006.
Except for the occasional image imbedding compatibility
issues across email clients (Emacs!), I've been
very satisfied with Eudora's performance. Can't beat
the price either . . . it's free.
Bob . . .
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Kellym
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:21 am Post subject: Strange characters |
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Another very good free email client that has a lot of the look and feel
of Outlook without the garbage is Thunderbird, created by the same folks
as Mozilla and Firebird browsers.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
I have been using it for around 10 yrs. It can be set to automatically
ask if you want the email you are replying to, to be sent in plain text,
html or text plus html.
On 10/18/2014 6:52 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
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<nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>
At 07:51 2014-10-18, you wrote:
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> I do not know what causes the strange characters. Your posts, that
> are included in the Matronics daily digest that is emailed to me,
> contain ALL garbage, not just at the end. I have to go to the
> Matronics website to read your posts.
> The workaround for you is to NOT use Outlook. Instead, go to
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=3 and click on the thread
> of interest, then click, "PostReply".
> Joe
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> Joe Gores
I've found Outlook (and most others) to be exceedingly
unfriendly to a techno-wiener's publishing and archival
needs. I've used Eudora for decades. It stores activity
in plain-text 'mailboxes' and does an excellent job of
searching. Just a few minutes ago, I was able to retrieve
a number of messages exchanged with Bob Lee about his
KR2 project . . . messages dating back to 2006.
Except for the occasional image imbedding compatibility
issues across email clients (Emacs!), I've been
very satisfied with Eudora's performance. Can't beat
the price either . . . it's free.
Bob . . .
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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:08 am Post subject: Strange characters |
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Roger,
Here's another data point.
I'm using Firefox on a Linux OS. I get your email with the garble below
it, as shown below.
do not archive
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty,
understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system.
And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness,
egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men
admire the quality of the first they love the produce of the second.
-John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)
On 10/17/2014 02:46 PM, rnjcurtis(at)charter.net wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone know why I get all the strange characters on the bottom of
my submissions to the list? I am using Outlook with Windows 8.
Roger
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rob(at)hyperion-ef.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:50 am Post subject: Strange characters |
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My posts on this list (and the Europa-List) have always been posted from various versions of Outlook (currently 2010) and when I view those posts using Outlook there are no strange characters. I don't know why some messages include some or many strange characters but I have assumed it was more likely the use of a different ASCII character set by the posters' software or O/S. Consistently, though perhaps not always, posts originating outside of North America have an odd combination of characters where it is obvious that an apostrophe should be. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in these things can comment and offer a real solution, if one exists.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Irvine, California
Europa XS
Rotax 914
S/N A070
Airframe complete
Avionics in progress
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Kellym
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:43 pm Post subject: Strange characters |
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The primary problem with all versions of Outlook is that it defaults to
sending messages in Rich Text Format, in other words formatted text,
with all those characters as the encoding for formatting . If you are
savvy enough, you can change to setting in Outlook to send in plain text
only, but it is not an easy change to find. The reason everything looks
fine in Outlook is because it is set to receive what other Outlook users
send. Most other email programs give you a choice of what fype of
formatting to send. Problems arise with email listserv transmissions
because they usually strip off most of the html encoding to conserve space.
On 10/18/2014 10:48 AM, Rob Housman wrote:
[quote] RE: Re: Strange characters
My posts on this list(and the Europa-List)have always been posted from
various versions of Outlook (currently 2010) and when I view those
posts using Outlook there are no strange characters. I don't know why
some messages include some or many strange characters but I have
assumed it was more likely the use of a different ASCII character set
by the posters' software or O/S.Consistently, though perhaps not
always, posts originating outside of North Americahave an odd
combination of characters where it is obvious that an apostrophe
should be. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in these things can
comment and offer a real solution, if one exists.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Irvine, California
Europa XS
Rotax 914
S/N A070
Airframe complete
Avionics in progress
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graeme.hart(at)onecoolkat
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:40 pm Post subject: Strange characters |
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The other option is to send in HTML.
These options are found under the "Format Text" menu in Outlook 2013
(when sending a message). You can also change it for all emails under
"File / Options / Mail / Compose Messages"
They exist in the earlier versions of Outlook too but Microsoft
occasionally move them around.
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
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<kellym(at)aviating.com>
The primary problem with all versions of Outlook is that it defaults to
sending messages in Rich Text Format, in other words formatted text, with
all those characters as the encoding for formatting . If you are savvy
enough, you can change to setting in Outlook to send in plain text only, but
it is not an easy change to find. The reason everything looks fine in
Outlook is because it is set to receive what other Outlook users send. Most
other email programs give you a choice of what fype of formatting to send.
Problems arise with email listserv transmissions because they usually strip
off most of the html encoding to conserve space.
On 10/18/2014 10:48 AM, Rob Housman wrote:
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> RE: Re: Strange characters
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> My posts on this list(and the Europa-List)have always been posted from
> various versions of Outlook (currently 2010) and when I view those posts
> using Outlook there are no strange characters. I don't know why some
> messages include some or many strange characters but I have assumed it was
> more likely the use of a different ASCII character set by the posters'
> software or O/S.Consistently, though perhaps not always, posts originating
> outside of North Americahave an odd combination of characters where it is
> obvious that an apostrophe should be. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in
> these things can comment and offer a real solution, if one exists.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rob Housman
>
> Irvine, California
>
> Europa XS
>
> Rotax 914
>
> S/N A070
>
> Airframe complete
>
> Avionics in progress
>
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Kellym
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:23 pm Post subject: Strange characters |
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You absolutely do NOT want to send in HTML. It will result in blank
messages on most email listservs such as this one.
Almost all are set to strip out all html.
Plain text is the best way to ensure your message comes through clear
with no loss of content and no extra characters,
On 10/18/2014 7:38 PM, Graeme Hart wrote:
[quote]
The other option is to send in HTML.
These options are found under the "Format Text" menu in Outlook 2013
(when sending a message). You can also change it for all emails under
"File / Options / Mail / Compose Messages"
They exist in the earlier versions of Outlook too but Microsoft
occasionally move them around.
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
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> <kellym(at)aviating.com>
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> The primary problem with all versions of Outlook is that it defaults to
> sending messages in Rich Text Format, in other words formatted text, with
> all those characters as the encoding for formatting . If you are savvy
> enough, you can change to setting in Outlook to send in plain text only, but
> it is not an easy change to find. The reason everything looks fine in
> Outlook is because it is set to receive what other Outlook users send. Most
> other email programs give you a choice of what fype of formatting to send.
> Problems arise with email listserv transmissions because they usually strip
> off most of the html encoding to conserve space.
> On 10/18/2014 10:48 AM, Rob Housman wrote:
>> RE: Re: Strange characters
>>
>> My posts on this list(and the Europa-List)have always been posted from
>> various versions of Outlook (currently 2010) and when I view those posts
>> using Outlook there are no strange characters. I don't know why some
>> messages include some or many strange characters but I have assumed it was
>> more likely the use of a different ASCII character set by the posters'
>> software or O/S.Consistently, though perhaps not always, posts originating
>> outside of North Americahave an odd combination of characters where it is
>> obvious that an apostrophe should be. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable in
>> these things can comment and offer a real solution, if one exists.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Rob Housman
>>
>> Irvine, California
>>
>> Europa XS
>>
>> Rotax 914
>>
>> S/N A070
>>
>> Airframe complete
>>
>> Avionics in progress
>>
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graeme.hart(at)onecoolkat
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:22 am Post subject: Strange characters |
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Sorry, I didn't realise that email listservs hadn't made the
transition to handling HTML.
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> wrote:
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<kellym(at)aviating.com>
You absolutely do NOT want to send in HTML. It will result in blank messages
on most email listservs such as this one.
Almost all are set to strip out all html.
Plain text is the best way to ensure your message comes through clear with
no loss of content and no extra characters,
On 10/18/2014 7:38 PM, Graeme Hart wrote:
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> <graeme.hart(at)onecoolkat.com>
> The other option is to send in HTML.
>
> These options are found under the "Format Text" menu in Outlook 2013
> (when sending a message). You can also change it for all emails under
> "File / Options / Mail / Compose Messages"
>
> They exist in the earlier versions of Outlook too but Microsoft
> occasionally move them around.
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> <kellym(at)aviating.com>
>>
>> The primary problem with all versions of Outlook is that it defaults to
>> sending messages in Rich Text Format, in other words formatted text, with
>> all those characters as the encoding for formatting . If you are savvy
>> enough, you can change to setting in Outlook to send in plain text only,
>> but
>> it is not an easy change to find. The reason everything looks fine in
>> Outlook is because it is set to receive what other Outlook users send.
>> Most
>> other email programs give you a choice of what fype of formatting to
>> send.
>> Problems arise with email listserv transmissions because they usually
>> strip
>> off most of the html encoding to conserve space.
>> On 10/18/2014 10:48 AM, Rob Housman wrote:
>>>
>>> RE: Re: Strange characters
>>>
>>> My posts on this list(and the Europa-List)have always been posted from
>>> various versions of Outlook (currently 2010) and when I view those posts
>>> using Outlook there are no strange characters. I don't know why some
>>> messages include some or many strange characters but I have assumed it
>>> was
>>> more likely the use of a different ASCII character set by the posters'
>>> software or O/S.Consistently, though perhaps not always, posts
>>> originating
>>> outside of North Americahave an odd combination of characters where it
>>> is
>>> obvious that an apostrophe should be. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable
>>> in
>>> these things can comment and offer a real solution, if one exists.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rob Housman
>>>
>>> Irvine, California
>>>
>>> Europa XS
>>>
>>> Rotax 914
>>>
>>> S/N A070
>>>
>>> Airframe complete
>>>
>>> Avionics in progress
>>>
>>> --
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