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pmdental(at)btinternet.co
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Hi All, Just getting the pitot system installed & am wondering where the best place for the 2 static ports should be? Ive already installed the Dynon AOA/PITOT probe in the wing thus leaving the static ports to be mounted. I'd like them near the front to keep the tubing runs short if poss. Any ideas please? Paul Munford. Kit 625 trigear. THANKYOU
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richard collings
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:52 pm Post subject: static ports |
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Hi Paul
Try and have a word with Andy Draper at the LAA office
Richard
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Subject: static ports
Hi All, Just getting the pitot system installed & am wondering where the best place for the 2 static ports should be? Ive already installed the Dynon AOA/PITOT probe in the wing thus leaving the static ports to be mounted. I'd like them near the front to keep the tubing runs short if poss. Any ideas please? Paul Munford. Kit 625 trigear. THANKYOU
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churchy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:59 pm Post subject: static ports |
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Paul
I'd be interested in what Andy advises, please, as I plan to use the same Dynon probe and until now I was assuming I would have to install it as a supplementary probe to the Europa supplied pitot-static unit.
Richard
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On 4 Nov 2014, at 20:51, Richard Collings <rcollings(at)talktalk.net (rcollings(at)talktalk.net)> wrote:
[quote] Hi Paul
Try and have a word with Andy Draper at the LAA office
Richard
From: Paul & Vanessa Munford (pmdental(at)btinternet.com)
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:31 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: static ports
Hi All, Just getting the pitot system installed & am wondering where the best place for the 2 static ports should be? Ive already installed the Dynon AOA/PITOT probe in the wing thus leaving the static ports to be mounted. I'd like them near the front to keep the tubing runs short if poss. Any ideas please? Paul Munford. Kit 625 trigear. THANKYOU
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budyerly(at)msn.com
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:39 am Post subject: static ports |
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<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Paul,
A word of advise.
The Dynon Pitot with AOA (heated or not) is a good pitot, but the AOA is not effective (in my opinion) unless the tip is near the leading edge and dropped down using the now pretty standard Gretz mount.
As the air flows beneath the wing, the relative wind 4-6 inches off the lower surface is nearly parallel to the wing lowr surface up to stall. However, within a few inches (no more than about 8, it is not bad.
As for static ports, I was not impressed with the side ports in the Europa. Especially with the flaps down on the old Classic. Slipping did induce errors.
I prefer on all my IFR Europa's to use the XS pitot tube for the A/S and the static for all instruments. This is dirt simple, the parts are in the box, and since the Dynon pitot is located on the other wing, easy to plumb.
Consider an Alternate Static Source. The Cockpit Static is quite good in my flight tests in the trigear and mono over the entire speed range, unless you have some sort of pressure ram air system with a tight cockpit... Just in case you are flying in extreme icing as a death defying feat.
I do not use a certified alternate static source valve. I install a simple toggle valve which looks like a switch in the panel. Marvalve Co. 1815 CTY RD 38 • Granite Falls, MN 56241 www.marrvalve.com or similar.
[img]cid:60bd01cff927(at)BudsPC[/img]
It's fun to experiment if you are allowed.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
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christoph.both(at)acadiau
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:03 pm Post subject: static ports |
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In my Classic I used a suggestion made by a Canadian EUROPA builder:
Installing three static ports, each equally separated 120 degrees from each other located on a circumferential circle just past the rear (XS) baggage bay).
One locates fuselage bottom centre (to let rain water flow out), the other left and right, located about a foot higher than fuselage side centre line where you usually would find the dual static ports.
I have no issues detected when flaring high, very little with slipping. Speed changes neutral. Works like a charm. No special fittings each either. Just reduxed an aluminum pipe ending for each port inside the fuselage and drilled through the fuselage three small 1/8 inch holes (drill only through one side) of the pipe.
Christoph Both
#223 Classic TRI, 185 hours since SEPT 2013
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly(at)msn.com (budyerly(at)msn.com)>
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Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 at 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: static ports
<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> Paul,
A word of advise.
The Dynon Pitot with AOA (heated or not) is a good pitot, but the AOA is not effective (in my opinion) unless the tip is near the leading edge and dropped down using the now pretty standard Gretz mount.
As the air flows beneath the wing, the relative wind 4-6 inches off the lower surface is nearly parallel to the wing lowr surface up to stall. However, within a few inches (no more than about 8, it is not bad.
As for static ports, I was not impressed with the side ports in the Europa. Especially with the flaps down on the old Classic. Slipping did induce errors.
I prefer on all my IFR Europa's to use the XS pitot tube for the A/S and the static for all instruments. This is dirt simple, the parts are in the box, and since the Dynon pitot is located on the other wing, easy to plumb.
Consider an Alternate Static Source. The Cockpit Static is quite good in my flight tests in the trigear and mono over the entire speed range, unless you have some sort of pressure ram air system with a tight cockpit... Just in case you are flying in extreme icing as a death defying feat.
I do not use a certified alternate static source valve. I install a simple toggle valve which looks like a switch in the panel. Marvalve Co. 1815 CTY RD 38 • Granite Falls, MN 56241 www.marrvalve.com or similar.
[img]cid:60bd01cff927(at)BudsPC[/img]
It's fun to experiment if you are allowed.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
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